Obama Invokes God, Conservatives Cry Foul

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President Obama emphasized his Christian beliefs at this year's annual National Prayer Breakfast in. D.C. reports Laura MacInnis at Reuters. Citing his faith as his motivation for his support for higher taxes on the wealthy, Obama had this to say:

"But for me as a Christian, it also coincides with Jesus' teaching that 'for unto whom much is given, much shall be required,'"
But conservatives are crying foul. As David Nakamura and Michelle Boorstein of the Washington Post tell us,

Ralph Reed of the Faith and Freedom Coalition said that for the president to tie his tax policy to Jesus’s teachings “is theologically threadbare and straining credulity.”

Former GOP presidential contender Rick Perry has criticized the president for his "war on religion." Then again, it wasn't long ago that Obama was being called out by groups like Americans United for Separation of Church and State for referencing God more often than his predecessor, George W. Bush.

What do you think? Is Obama right to bring God into election year, should he keep faith out of it? Or is he even sincere? Full Story
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GreatJob

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#1 Feb 2, 2012
I love it! Hahahahah use that stupid bybull against them!

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celticwarriors

Seminole, FL

#2 Feb 2, 2012
There is no way that any of the republica policies are Christian. They cater only to extremely wealthy at the expense of everyone else and to the detriment of our environment. Republica's are the anti-Christ, but their sheep are too blind to see. They have closed minds. Open your mind and become a liberal progressive, or you are part of the problem.
All of us have one issue this year: economic fairness for all. See the "Sermon on the mount" for further clarity.

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Questioner

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#3 Feb 2, 2012
Is Obama right to bring God into election year, should he keep faith out of it? Or is he even sincere?

The Republican candidates bring up their 'faith' now and again. Obama can bring his up if he wishes. American voters can, and will, make up their mind about who is sincere and who is not. It isn't that difficult, just compare their policy or proposed policy to the faith (religion) they profess. Hopefully there will be some correlation, but don't bet your savings on it.
Sue Robbins

AOL

#4 Feb 2, 2012
PLEASE don't remind me of obama's Rev. Wrights hatred of all things American...and, we elected Obama knowing how he felt about America!!! We should all be ashamed.

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Chicago Guy

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#5 Feb 2, 2012
Sue Robbins wrote:
PLEASE don't remind me of obama's Rev. Wrights hatred of all things American...and, we elected Obama knowing how he felt about America!!! We should all be ashamed.
You should be ashamed of your stupidity. Honest to God.

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Chicago Guy

Winnetka, IL

#6 Feb 2, 2012
As a progressive Christian, I find this rather hilarious-- and extraordinarily hypocritical.

The conservatives whine and moan about "removing God" from the public sector at Christmastime.

They use their faiths as justification for opposing equal rights for gays.

They use their faith as a cudgel to call people who disagree on women's health issues "baby killers".

In short, they take enormous offense when anyone suggests that they keep their religious views out of government.

And yet, when Obama extrapolates the CLEAR, EXPLICIT teachings of Christ, and applies them to the way we, the people, should structure our government, they cry foul, and attack the argument with faulty reasoning.

Just more proof that the GOP is full of lying, morally bankrupt hypocrites.

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Since: Sep 08

Placitas, NM

#7 Feb 2, 2012
At least President Obama didn't completely waste the morning giving these "Christians" a veneer of credibility.

At least his comments were biblically sound.

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Dorian

East Weymouth, MA

#8 Feb 2, 2012
Chicago Guy wrote:
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You should be ashamed of your stupidity. Honest to God.
Good One..Chicago Guy..lol
Mothra

Phoenix, AZ

#9 Feb 2, 2012
Chicago Guy wrote:
As a progressive Christian, I find this rather hilarious-- and extraordinarily hypocritical.
The conservatives whine and moan about "removing God" from the public sector at Christmastime.
They use their faiths as justification for opposing equal rights for gays.
They use their faith as a cudgel to call people who disagree on women's health issues "baby killers".
In short, they take enormous offense when anyone suggests that they keep their religious views out of government.
And yet, when Obama extrapolates the CLEAR, EXPLICIT teachings of Christ, and applies them to the way we, the people, should structure our government, they cry foul, and attack the argument with faulty reasoning.
Just more proof that the GOP is full of lying, morally bankrupt hypocrites.
Those teachings of Christ were for the role of individuals, not government.

The US is not a theocracy.
proud latino

Westcliffe, CO

#10 Feb 2, 2012
What about Mr. Romeny when he said I believe in the bible. Talk about garbage, he believes in the book of Mormon not the bible. They say when they die they are going to be gods. So is god mormon? They believe more in Joseph Smith than Christ. Joseph Smith was more like Pancho Villa a damn bandit. They should of cut his nuts off when he was taking all the 12 and 13 year old girls for sexual gain. Joseph was a crystal ball gazer, wanted his own gov. he wanted to print his own money, so they nailed him in jail. He saw the gold plates with a pair of SPECIAL looking glasses, which the golden plates never existed. Where are they? Mormons don't like blacks or latinos. They Mormonism was to start a special race. Thats the way Romney is going to run the country. Either he turns the white house into a temple or he moves the white house to Salt Lake. Think about it, research Mormonism before you vote open your eyes.
celticwarriors

Seminole, FL

#11 Feb 2, 2012
Providing for the general welfare and pursuit of life, liberty, and happiness IS in the Constitution.
bottlecap

Tampa, FL

#12 Feb 2, 2012
Mothra wrote:
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Those teachings of Christ were for the role of individuals, not government.
The US is not a theocracy.
Yes, whatever happened to Jesus's ADMONITION about seperation of Church and State???

Luke 20

22“Is it legal for us to give poll tax to Caesar or not?” 23“But he perceived their cunning and he said,“Why are you testing me?” 24“Show me a denarius. Whose image and inscription is on it?” They said,“Caesar's.” 25Yeshua said to them,“Give therefore to Caesar what is Caesar's, and to God what is God's.”

Since: Dec 07

Spring, TX

#13 Feb 2, 2012
celticwarriors wrote:
Providing for the general welfare and pursuit of life, liberty, and happiness IS in the Constitution.
“[T]he laying of taxes is the power, and the general welfare the purpose for which the power is to be exercised. They [Congress] are not to lay taxes ad libitum for any purpose they please; but only to pay the debts or provide for the welfare of the Union. In like manner, they are not to do anything they please to provide for the general welfare, but only to lay taxes for that purpose.” Thomas Jefferson

It is NOT for EBT cards, baby daddies, muslims with 5 wives all getting welfare and immigrants in the state of Washington to get free housing while the rest of us pay for ours.
Chicago Guy

Winnetka, IL

#14 Feb 2, 2012
Mothra wrote:
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Those teachings of Christ were for the role of individuals, not government.
The US is not a theocracy.
OH. I see.... and yet the teachings of Christ on gay rights, or abortion, are for the government to decide, and not individuals??

Way to be consistent.

Wait-- pardon me. I mis-spoke. Because of course Christ NEVER mentioned either homosexuality or abortion.

Thanks for showing me how intellectually and morally honest conservatives are!!
Chicago Guy

Winnetka, IL

#15 Feb 2, 2012
Mothra wrote:
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Those teachings of Christ were for the role of individuals, not government.
The US is not a theocracy.
Besides, WE are the government.

The policies it enacts should ALWAYS reflect our core values, according to conservatives... unless, of course, we're talking about taxation, apparently. Or immigration reform. Or social justice.

In which case, government should "butt out", and not impose on our freedom.

What a bunch of hypocrites you cons are.
Chicago Guy

Winnetka, IL

#16 Feb 2, 2012
bottlecap wrote:
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Yes, whatever happened to Jesus's ADMONITION about seperation of Church and State???
Luke 20
22“Is it legal for us to give poll tax to Caesar or not?” 23“But he perceived their cunning and he said,“Why are you testing me?” 24“Show me a denarius. Whose image and inscription is on it?” They said,“Caesar's.” 25Yeshua said to them,“Give therefore to Caesar what is Caesar's, and to God what is God's.”
Jeus wasn't admonishing a 'seperation[sic] between church and state! That's proposterous. He was saying that tax policy had nothing to do with Him.

But his morality was not meant to be cherry-picked, or applied on to certain segments of life.

We KNOW his position on sharing, and of saving up treasures. It's patently clear to all with eyes to see.
Ex-GOP Con

West Hollywood, CA

#17 Feb 2, 2012
“If this is going to be a Christian nation that doesn't help the poor, either we have to pretend that Jesus was just as selfish as we are, or we've got to acknowledge that He commanded us to love the poor and serve the needy without condition and then admit that we just don't want to do it.”
&#8213; Stephen Colbert
bottlecap

Tampa, FL

#18 Feb 2, 2012
Obamas's thinking parallel's that of Judas when it comes to scamming the people.

John Chapter 12:

3 Then took Mary a pound of ointment of spikenard, very costly, and anointed the feet of Jesus, and wiped his feet with her hair: and the house was filled with the odour of the ointment.

4 Then saith one of his disciples, Judas Iscariot, Simon's son, which should betray him,

5 Why was not this ointment sold for three hundred pence, and given to the poor?

6 This he said, NOT that he CARED for the poor; but because he was a THIEF, and had the bag, and bare what was put therein.
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Yes, Obama is in the same page as Judas here----he is advocating ISCARIOTISM, not Christianity.

Interesting note: While, of course, Jesus saw thru Judas's play, ironically, the other disciples were taken in by Judas's public stance and some, when Judas was leaving the "Last Supper" to betray the Lord, thought to themselves, he is going to help the poor.

Now to keep the record straight, Barack is certainly as much a Christian as George Bush Sr, "W" and Bill and Hillary Clinton.
Mothra

Phoenix, AZ

#19 Feb 2, 2012
Chicago Guy wrote:
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OH. I see.... and yet the teachings of Christ on gay rights, or abortion, are for the government to decide, and not individuals??
Way to be consistent.
Wait-- pardon me. I mis-spoke. Because of course Christ NEVER mentioned either homosexuality or abortion.
Thanks for showing me how intellectually and morally honest conservatives are!!
Likewise, I did not speak of homosexuality nor abortion -- only on the role you ascribed to government/religion.

Typically I avoid discussions of religion because of replies like yours. Snark and sarcasm in matters of faith are offensive and insulting.

I stand by my observation. My faith is my own business and not a matter of debate.
Gary

Bellingham, WA

#20 Feb 2, 2012
Questioner wrote:
Is Obama right to bring God into election year, should he keep faith out of it? Or is he even sincere?
The Republican candidates bring up their 'faith' now and again. Obama can bring his up if he wishes. American voters can, and will, make up their mind about who is sincere and who is not. It isn't that difficult, just compare their policy or proposed policy to the faith (religion) they profess. Hopefully there will be some correlation, but don't bet your savings on it.
The trouble with religion in politics is that religion, like patriotism, is the easiest thing in the world to fake. I think politics is full of religious and patriotic frauds. People who make a big display of their religion or their patriotism are
people on the make, they want something. What does it say in the Bible about praying, go into your closet and pray? Rather than pull a Rick Perry and rent a whole stadium to do your praying in.

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