Is the Border Secure? Ranchers Say No

There are 11 comments on the KTUC-AM Tucson story from Apr 11, 2013, titled Is the Border Secure? Ranchers Say No. In it, KTUC-AM Tucson reports that:

The chief of the United States Border Patrol, Michael Fisher, told a Senate hearing Wednesday that his agency has developed a new system to measure not just how many undocumented immigrants the Patrol has apprehended, but how many it hasn't. It's a breakthrough that could help legislators decide when the border is secure enough so that they might ... (more)

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Since: Aug 11

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#1 Apr 11, 2013
there is also radar being used that shows how many are coming while those pushing shamnesty say other wise and do not want to see real proof.

even when there is proof these useless are so crooked and dishonest they still lie.

if these rancher start stacking bodies of the illegal aliens these folks say are not coming how can the charge the rancher being they are not coming so those bodies will not be real.
ronnie

Provo, UT

#2 Apr 11, 2013
GO too secure borders intelligence.org . Watch todays recent video. Send it to your local representatives. ASAP. The border is as unprotected as it ever has been. We do not have containment and as I've mentioned before, rancher's know the truth. They watch this crap and tape it everyday. 500 crossed his ranch in December alone. Reform should never occur until our borders are protected by our Military period!
Con Todo

United States

#3 Apr 11, 2013
Why the H3ll do ranchers need the perimeters of their ranches protected by the government? Can't they protect their ranches themselves? Why always look to the government to do work that you ort to do yourself.

One of my clients is the largest farm in the US containing 70K acres. The farm rents out grazing lands to ranchers whenever they are not growing anything. I swear, 99% of the ranch hands that come out to tend the livestock, can't speak English and are most likely illegal.

Seems like most of the ranchers themselves create the demand for illegal labor. Most likely these ranchers are Republicans.
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Memo From Turner

Bellmore, NY

#5 Apr 11, 2013
Con Todo wrote:
Why the H3ll do ranchers need the perimeters of their ranches protected by the government? Can't they protect their ranches themselves? Why always look to the government to do work that you ort to do yourself.
One of my clients is the largest farm in the US containing 70K acres. The farm rents out grazing lands to ranchers whenever they are not growing anything. I swear, 99% of the ranch hands that come out to tend the livestock, can't speak English and are most likely illegal.
Seems like most of the ranchers themselves create the demand for illegal labor. Most likely these ranchers are Republicans.
It is kind of silly that the ranchers buy land on the border and then complain about living on the border.

It's similar to the person who gets the sweet deal on the house next to the airport and then complains about the noise.
SI SE PUEDE

Studio City, CA

#6 Apr 11, 2013
Con Todo wrote:
Why the H3ll do ranchers need the perimeters of their ranches protected by the government? Can't they protect their ranches themselves? Why always look to the government to do work that you ort to do yourself.
One of my clients is the largest farm in the US containing 70K acres. The farm rents out grazing lands to ranchers whenever they are not growing anything. I swear, 99% of the ranch hands that come out to tend the livestock, can't speak English and are most likely illegal.
Seems like most of the ranchers themselves create the demand for illegal labor. Most likely these ranchers are Republicans.
You got a point there...
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Since: Aug 11

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#11 Apr 11, 2013
Con Todo wrote:
Why the H3ll do ranchers need the perimeters of their ranches protected by the government? Can't they protect their ranches themselves? Why always look to the government to do work that you ort to do yourself.
One of my clients is the largest farm in the US containing 70K acres. The farm rents out grazing lands to ranchers whenever they are not growing anything. I swear, 99% of the ranch hands that come out to tend the livestock, can't speak English and are most likely illegal.
Seems like most of the ranchers themselves create the demand for illegal labor. Most likely these ranchers are Republicans.
not against illegal aliens. an arizona rancher got into trouble for holing trespassers,now it they was citizens there would have been no problem.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/feb/...

seems all have to cater to illegal aliens .
mauvi brakatue

Pullman, WA

#12 Apr 12, 2013
By their fruits, you shall know them.Rt
Con Todo

United States

#13 Apr 12, 2013
tomin cali wrote:
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not against illegal aliens. an arizona rancher got into trouble for holing trespassers,now it they was citizens there would have been no problem.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/feb/...
seems all have to cater to illegal aliens .
"In March, U.S. District Judge John Roll rejected a motion by Mr. Barnett to have the charges dropped, ruling there was sufficient evidence to allow the matter to be presented to a jury. Mr. Barnett’s attorney, David Hardy, had argued that illegal immigrants did not have the same rights as U.S. citizens."

Read more: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/feb/...

Judge Roll, hmm, another Republican stooge appointed by the head stooge, George W Bush. Got his head blown off along with Gaby Giffords. Karma?

Since: Aug 11

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#14 Apr 12, 2013
trespasser shoot just be shot. it was his land they had no right to be there. just shows how corrupt all who side with illegal aliens are. when these ranchers start burying them it was brought on for reasons like this.
Quirky

Denver, CO

#15 Apr 13, 2013
For all the talk in Washington about border security, the one agency charged with providing it isn't sharing a wealth of details. So a group of volunteers -- called Secure Border Intelligence -- has stepped in, working around the clock in Arizona to keep a thorough record of the front lines of the border battle.

Using tiny, motion-activated cameras hidden in the desert along known smuggling routes, the group captures images of illegal immigrants streaming into the U.S. Some carry water, others bundles of drugs slung across their shoulders. SBI also records conversations between Border Patrol pilots and agents on the ground. Excerpts from those conversations, obtained exclusively by Fox News, suggest the border may not be as secure as frequently portrayed by the Obama administration.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/04/12/ar...

Since: Aug 11

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#16 Apr 13, 2013
Quirky wrote:
For all the talk in Washington about border security, the one agency charged with providing it isn't sharing a wealth of details. So a group of volunteers -- called Secure Border Intelligence -- has stepped in, working around the clock in Arizona to keep a thorough record of the front lines of the border battle.
Using tiny, motion-activated cameras hidden in the desert along known smuggling routes, the group captures images of illegal immigrants streaming into the U.S. Some carry water, others bundles of drugs slung across their shoulders. SBI also records conversations between Border Patrol pilots and agents on the ground. Excerpts from those conversations, obtained exclusively by Fox News, suggest the border may not be as secure as frequently portrayed by the Obama administration.
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/04/12/ar...
for some reason the media that is against citizens will never show this.

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