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South Africans Slam US "Plunder" and "Atrocities" as Obama Arrives

There are 25 comments on the Common Dreams story from Jun 28, 2013, titled South Africans Slam US "Plunder" and "Atrocities" as Obama Arrives. In it, Common Dreams reports that:

Protesters carry placards as they protest against the visit of U.S. President Barack Obama in Pretoria, June 28, 2013.

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Don From Canada

Severn, Canada

#1 Jun 28, 2013
These African Protesters' know more about what the US Government is up to, than theaverage American Citizen.

Here is a quote from Africa, in Pretoria, where Obama visited Friday.

Quote; "No You Can't!" was the cry as hundreds of South Africans marched on the US Embassy in the capital city of Pretoria Friday in protest of visiting United States President, Barack Obama.

"Their administration's government is not welcome, and is being received with antagonism," said campaign coordinator Mbuyiseni Ndlozi.

Demonstrators were organizing to raise public awareness about the gross human rights violations being committed by the Obama administration, including the proliferation of drone warfare and the treatment and indefinite detention of prisoners at Guantanamo.

In a statement released ahead of the visit, Congress of South African Trade Unions (COSATU) denounced the Administration's "horrifying record of foreign policy in the world," citing the "militarization of international relations for the multinational companies and their profit-seeking classes in the US," and the presence of AFRICOM and other Special Operations forces, "which are largely responsible for the destabilization of various countries and communities." End of Quote!

Do these people know something that you in the USA have no knowledge of,(or don't care about)?
I think it's both of these things!
THE WHOLE WORLD KNOWS WHAT THE AMERICAN MILITARY IS DOING AROUND THE GLOBE!

Your, "John Wayne Attitude",(to just come out with both guns blazing), just doesn't cut it, in the digitally-connected-world.

Maybe you can pull the wool over the American Populations' eyes, by under-reporting (or by NOT REPORTING), the dastardly things that your 'Military-Complex', does in foreign countries, but, you CAN'T HIDE THESE THINGS FROM THE REST OF THE WORLDS' VIEW! Shape up, US GOVERNMENT!

“El mojon cherokee culipardo”

Since: Jun 13

tinsnip= defiantOne gilipollas

#2 Jun 28, 2013
Don From Canada wrote:
These !
comrade mojon, you are boring us with so much hogwash!

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#3 Jun 28, 2013
Don From Canada wrote:
These African Protesters' know more about what the US Government is up to, than theaverage American Citizen.
Here is a quote from Africa, in Pretoria, where Obama visited Friday.
Quote; "No You Can't!" was the cry as hundreds of South Africans marched on the US Embassy in the capital city of Pretoria Friday in protest of visiting United States President, Barack Obama.
"Their administration's government is not welcome, and is being received with antagonism," said campaign coordinator Mbuyiseni Ndlozi.
Demonstrators were organizing to raise public awareness about the gross human rights violations being committed by the Obama administration, including the proliferation of drone warfare and the treatment and indefinite detention of prisoners at Guantanamo.
In a statement released ahead of the visit, Congress of South African Trade Unions (COSATU) denounced the Administration's "horrifying record of foreign policy in the world," citing the "militarization of international relations for the multinational companies and their profit-seeking classes in the US," and the presence of AFRICOM and other Special Operations forces, "which are largely responsible for the destabilization of various countries and communities." End of Quote!
Do these people know something that you in the USA have no knowledge of,(or don't care about)?
I think it's both of these things!
THE WHOLE WORLD KNOWS WHAT THE AMERICAN MILITARY IS DOING AROUND THE GLOBE!
Your, "John Wayne Attitude",(to just come out with both guns blazing), just doesn't cut it, in the digitally-connected-world.
Maybe you can pull the wool over the American Populations' eyes, by under-reporting (or by NOT REPORTING), the dastardly things that your 'Military-Complex', does in foreign countries, but, you CAN'T HIDE THESE THINGS FROM THE REST OF THE WORLDS' VIEW! Shape up, US GOVERNMENT!
how is drone warfare different from any other kind of aerial warfare?

do you think it matters to the dead terrorist if the missile that flew up his ass came from a drone or an A-10? media soundbytes are not really good for talking about serious world issues like war...

try harder...

“CDR & G 2 Agent”

Since: Jun 13

The gay dragqueen

#4 Jun 28, 2013
Don From Canada wrote:
ThT!
enough of your BS fake phoney fraud
Don From Canada

Severn, Canada

#5 Jun 28, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>how is drone warfare different from any other kind of aerial warfare?
do you think it matters to the dead terrorist if the missile that flew up his ass came from a drone or an A-10? media soundbytes are not really good for talking about serious world issues like war...
try harder...
I am trying harder, but redneck, John Wayne-types, like you, haven't grasped the fact that you can't go into other sovereign nations and blow up people and things. You can, if you don't realize that the time will come, when these countries will strike back with a vengeance hitherto unwitnessed, in your country. This is inevitable, and a fact of life - people will only absorb so much horror, before striking back, big-time.
I know what you will probably answer,'The US can defeat ANY FOE, ANY TIME'. Don't count on it bud.
Didn't the US super-computer that your techies just bragged about, as being,'The Fastest Computer in the world', get blown out of the water, by a computer that was TWICE AS FAST, made by Chinese STUDENTS'.
The wars and skirmishes from now on will be fought with technological weaponry! And, here you thought the USA was the only country that had technology,- boy, what a shock you are in for.
Let's take a look at Iran for instance. They have successfully landed two US Drones - INTACT! These drones have a massive guidance system controlled by seven satellites', and a self-destruct system that is supposed to destroy the craft, if there is any interference with its flight pattern. Yet, there they were, all shiny, and sitting quietly, on Iran's runway, all full of secret(?) American Technology, for all to see and examine.
Do these two items cause you to doubt what your government tells you, about how advanced the United States is, compared to the rest of the world? It should, bud!
The USA makes up slightly more than 2% of the world's land mass. There are a lot of VERY SMART PEOPLE, on the other 97+% of the globe. Perhaps you'd better keep this fact in mind when you go and cause trouble in countries' all around the world - it could come back and bite you in the ass!
Don From Canada

Severn, Canada

#6 Jun 28, 2013
- Cherokee - wrote:
<quoted text>
comrade mojon, you are boring us with so much hogwash!
The truth isn't hogwash, Multi-Names. On the other hand, I shouldn't expect you to know anything about that.
Dream on, goof!

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#7 Jun 28, 2013
Don From Canada wrote:
<quoted text> I am trying harder, but redneck, John Wayne-types, like you, haven't grasped the fact that you can't go into other sovereign nations and blow up people and things. You can, if you don't realize that the time will come, when these countries will strike back with a vengeance hitherto unwitnessed, in your country. This is inevitable, and a fact of life - people will only absorb so much horror, before striking back, big-time.
I know what you will probably answer,'The US can defeat ANY FOE, ANY TIME'. Don't count on it bud.
Didn't the US super-computer that your techies just bragged about, as being,'The Fastest Computer in the world', get blown out of the water, by a computer that was TWICE AS FAST, made by Chinese STUDENTS'.
The wars and skirmishes from now on will be fought with technological weaponry! And, here you thought the USA was the only country that had technology,- boy, what a shock you are in for.
Let's take a look at Iran for instance. They have successfully landed two US Drones - INTACT! These drones have a massive guidance system controlled by seven satellites', and a self-destruct system that is supposed to destroy the craft, if there is any interference with its flight pattern. Yet, there they were, all shiny, and sitting quietly, on Iran's runway, all full of secret(?) American Technology, for all to see and examine.
Do these two items cause you to doubt what your government tells you, about how advanced the United States is, compared to the rest of the world? It should, bud!
The USA makes up slightly more than 2% of the world's land mass. There are a lot of VERY SMART PEOPLE, on the other 97+% of the globe. Perhaps you'd better keep this fact in mind when you go and cause trouble in countries' all around the world - it could come back and bite you in the ass!
hardly a redneck or john wayne type...worst actor ever and so stereotypical of the ugly american mindset...

I deal in facts. these religious cult freaks are almost equallying the christian religious cult freaks in their bloody swath of terrorism and they must be stopped.

if the people that knowingly live with, and harbor , and protect these cult freaks don't care about getting blown up, they have that choice, but they are not civilians or innocent in any way...

this terrorism in the name of proven false gods has to stop and it has to stop now. we are in the place to help that cause and it is our moral duty to do so...

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#8 Jun 28, 2013
Don From Canada wrote:
<quoted text> I am trying harder, but redneck, John Wayne-types, like you, haven't grasped the fact that you can't go into other sovereign nations and blow up people and things. You can, if you don't realize that the time will come, when these countries will strike back with a vengeance hitherto unwitnessed, in your country. This is inevitable, and a fact of life - people will only absorb so much horror, before striking back, big-time.
I know what you will probably answer,'The US can defeat ANY FOE, ANY TIME'. Don't count on it bud.
Didn't the US super-computer that your techies just bragged about, as being,'The Fastest Computer in the world', get blown out of the water, by a computer that was TWICE AS FAST, made by Chinese STUDENTS'.
The wars and skirmishes from now on will be fought with technological weaponry! And, here you thought the USA was the only country that had technology,- boy, what a shock you are in for.
Let's take a look at Iran for instance. They have successfully landed two US Drones - INTACT! These drones have a massive guidance system controlled by seven satellites', and a self-destruct system that is supposed to destroy the craft, if there is any interference with its flight pattern. Yet, there they were, all shiny, and sitting quietly, on Iran's runway, all full of secret(?) American Technology, for all to see and examine.
Do these two items cause you to doubt what your government tells you, about how advanced the United States is, compared to the rest of the world? It should, bud!
The USA makes up slightly more than 2% of the world's land mass. There are a lot of VERY SMART PEOPLE, on the other 97+% of the globe. Perhaps you'd better keep this fact in mind when you go and cause trouble in countries' all around the world - it could come back and bite you in the ass!
why do you believe the Iranians when they say they have two completely intact drones with all its electronics working? they have lied about so much that has been proven..remember their last medium range missile launch when two of them failed and they photo-shopped it to correct their failure? you probably bought into that...,

you are full of media soundbytes but no substance. you are the typical american mindless voter

how sad, i had higher hopes for my Canadaian friends. but, living on the Canadian border, i know most of them are far more engaged than you. you are either far, far below par or lying like a rug...actually, it would seem like both, in your case...

try harder, fool...
Don From Canada

Severn, Canada

#9 Jun 28, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>why do you believe the Iranians when they say they have two completely intact drones with all its electronics working? they have lied about so much that has been proven..remember their last medium range missile launch when two of them failed and they photo-shopped it to correct their failure? you probably bought into that...,
you are full of media soundbytes but no substance. you are the typical american mindless voter
how sad, i had higher hopes for my Canadaian friends. but, living on the Canadian border, i know most of them are far more engaged than you. you are either far, far below par or lying like a rug...actually, it would seem like both, in your case...
try harder, fool...
And you believe what the American Government tells you? Look at the atrocities in the NDA Act, The Patriot Act, etc. All you have to be called, by anyone in power, is, "belligerent" (with no standard meaning of the word "belligerent", across the entire United States, and you can be incarcerated INDEFINATELY, WITHOUT TRIAL! That my friend, IS WORSE THAN CUBA. These acts are Citizen Control Acts, and you let on that the US IS A DEMOCRATIC NATION BEYOND REPROACH! HA. Who is the fool now, for believing his country doesn't make things up. By the way boy, check your back files and you will see the pictures and read the stories of the captured drones. Read my last post over SLOWLY, and absorb the gist of the post if you are able to do so. This is the view of an astute observer, not the repeater of American Government Rhetoric.

“El mojon cherokee culipardo”

Since: Jun 13

tinsnip= defiantOne gilipollas

#10 Jun 29, 2013
Don From Canada wrote:
<quoted text> And you believe what the American Government tells you?
Better than marx, lenin, mao, krushev, castro, chancho che bs,you pinko commienazi!

“CDR & G 2 Agent”

Since: Jun 13

The gay dragqueen

#11 Jun 29, 2013
Don From Canada wrote:
<quoted text> And you believe what the American Government tells you? Look at the atrocities in the NDA Act, The Patriot Act, etc. All you have to be called, by anyone in power, is, "belligerent" (with no standard meaning of the word "belligerent", across the entire United States, and you can be incarcerated INDEFINATELY, WITHOUT TRIAL! That my friend, IS WORSE THAN CUBA. These acts are Citizen Control Acts, and you let on that the US IS A DEMOCRATIC NATION BEYOND REPROACH! HA. Who is the fool now, for believing his country doesn't make things up. By the way boy, check your back files and you will see the pictures and read the stories of the captured drones. Read my last post over SLOWLY, and absorb the gist of the post if you are able to do so. This is the view of an astute observer, not the repeater of American Government Rhetoric.
everytime you open your foul mouth, feces pours out!
Don from Canada

Lafayette, NJ

#12 Jun 29, 2013
Don From Canada wrote:
<quoted text> The untruth is hogwash,Eye'm Multi-Names. Eye am a fake phoney fraud.
and a commienazi goof!
correct

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#13 Jun 29, 2013
Don From Canada wrote:
<quoted text> And you believe what the American Government tells you? Look at the atrocities in the NDA Act, The Patriot Act, etc. All you have to be called, by anyone in power, is, "belligerent" (with no standard meaning of the word "belligerent", across the entire United States, and you can be incarcerated INDEFINATELY, WITHOUT TRIAL! That my friend, IS WORSE THAN CUBA. These acts are Citizen Control Acts, and you let on that the US IS A DEMOCRATIC NATION BEYOND REPROACH! HA. Who is the fool now, for believing his country doesn't make things up. By the way boy, check your back files and you will see the pictures and read the stories of the captured drones. Read my last post over SLOWLY, and absorb the gist of the post if you are able to do so. This is the view of an astute observer, not the repeater of American Government Rhetoric.
so photos are proof that the iranians have two completely intact drones?

“CDR & G 2 Agent”

Since: Jun 13

The gay dragqueen

#14 Jun 29, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text> so photos are proof that the iranians have two completely intact drones?
Don is a commienazi jerk1

“CDR & G 2 Agent”

Since: Jun 13

The gay dragqueen

#15 Jun 29, 2013
jerk!

“TRIBALISM I refuse to play!”

Since: May 11

Location hidden

#16 Jun 29, 2013
Don From Canada wrote:
<quoted text> I am trying harder, but redneck, John Wayne-types, like you, haven't grasped the fact that you can't go into other sovereign nations and blow up people and things. You can, if you don't realize that the time will come, when these countries will strike back with a vengeance hitherto unwitnessed, in your country. This is inevitable, and a fact of life - people will only absorb so much horror, before striking back, big-time.
I know what you will probably answer,'The US can defeat ANY FOE, ANY TIME'. Don't count on it bud.
Didn't the US super-computer that your techies just bragged about, as being,'The Fastest Computer in the world', get blown out of the water, by a computer that was TWICE AS FAST, made by Chinese STUDENTS'.
The wars and skirmishes from now on will be fought with technological weaponry! And, here you thought the USA was the only country that had technology,- boy, what a shock you are in for.
Let's take a look at Iran for instance. They have successfully landed two US Drones - INTACT! These drones have a massive guidance system controlled by seven satellites', and a self-destruct system that is supposed to destroy the craft, if there is any interference with its flight pattern. Yet, there they were, all shiny, and sitting quietly, on Iran's runway, all full of secret(?) American Technology, for all to see and examine.
Do these two items cause you to doubt what your government tells you, about how advanced the United States is, compared to the rest of the world? It should, bud!
The USA makes up slightly more than 2% of the world's land mass. There are a lot of VERY SMART PEOPLE, on the other 97+% of the globe. Perhaps you'd better keep this fact in mind when you go and cause trouble in countries' all around the world - it could come back and bite you in the ass!
When other nations STOP supporting, funding ,training and harboring people that fly planes into buildings, we will stop this war! How about holding terrorist accountable for their actions for a change?!?!
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Oliver Cromwell

Newtownabbey, UK

#18 Jun 29, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>how is drone warfare different from any other kind of aerial warfare?
do you think it matters to the dead terrorist if the missile that flew up his ass came from a drone or an A-10? media soundbytes are not really good for talking about serious world issues like war...
try harder...
The key word is terrorist,you seem to take your governments word at face value that they are just killing terrorists,some people call it extra Judicial killing,these attacks are taking place in countries that the US isn't at War with,some Americans don't seem to have a problem with their government murdering people all over the world.
Oliver Cromwell

Newtownabbey, UK

#19 Jun 29, 2013
Retired SOF wrote:
<quoted text>
When other nations STOP supporting, funding ,training and harboring people that fly planes into buildings, we will stop this war! How about holding terrorist accountable for their actions for a change?!?!
Your own Government is supporting those people,Bill Clinton supported Jihadists in Bosnia,Bin Laden was a CIA asset,he recruited Jihadists from Saudi and other countries to fight against Serbs in Bosnia,now you are supporting those animals in Syria,when are you people going to wake up?

“TRIBALISM I refuse to play!”

Since: May 11

Location hidden

#20 Jun 29, 2013
Oliver Cromwell wrote:
<quoted text> Your own Government is supporting those people,Bill Clinton supported Jihadists in Bosnia,Bin Laden was a CIA asset,he recruited Jihadists from Saudi and other countries to fight against Serbs in Bosnia,now you are supporting those animals in Syria,when are you people going to wake up?
You are talking about Bill Clinton, the man that set us up for 9/11. You would think Democrats would learn! You would also think all the times we helped them, fought for them, fed them, they would say thank you but all we got was 9/11 for our efforts. So f*ck them, let them kill each other and if they choose to fight us, kill them too! WHOLESALE!!

“TRIBALISM I refuse to play!”

Since: May 11

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#21 Jun 29, 2013
Oliver Cromwell wrote:
<quoted text>
The key word is terrorist,you seem to take your governments word at face value that they are just killing terrorists,some people call it extra Judicial killing,these attacks are taking place in countries that the US isn't at War with,some Americans don't seem to have a problem with their government murdering people all over the world.
I have a problem with TERRORIST murdering my own countrymen!

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