Again, not every man, woman, or couple, to clarify should marry. Some are just not the marrying kind, or mature enough to handle the responsibility and/or commitment.<quoted text>
He made no such allusions that any couples should or should not marry.
He clearly said that for certain couples entering into marriage would somehow be bad for the couples themselves. Not bad for the institution of marriage or for society. I would like to know what those bad, non good, things are that would accrue to the couple should they marry.
Exactly, specific societal institution comprised of one man and one woman, as husband AND wife. The only nationwide, available marital institution known since the birth of the Republic.I am not designating any relationship as marriage. Marriage is a specific societal institution. Couples IN A RELATIONSHIP often choose to enter into marriage. My nephew and his girlfriend are in a relationship. They are not married.
"Your narrow husband/wife marriage....."? Wow...I never knew it belonged only to little ole me. But your right, there are also husband/wife/wife/wife marriages too....albeit it without legal recognition in this country, but quite popular throughout time and place in many parts of the world.Your narrow husband/wife marriage is NO LONGER THE ONLY MARRIAGE!
It's only "insulting" if you assume as such, and assume an malicious intent. Seriously Dave, despite those marriages being legally valid, do you honestly think, considering the number of SSMs, both and female, although the latter outnumber the former, and the virtually newness of SSM in the West, that marriage is suddenly not still viewed culturally, socially, legally, and/or religiously as union of husband and wife? Really, legal SSM in a handful of states and countries won't wipe out the collected concept of marriage as a male female union. Percentages alone would indicate that.Husband and husband, and wife and wife are now able to legally marry in many (and more and more) states and countries. Your continued dismissal of these legally valid marriages is insulting.
No, I don't support redefining legal marriage from a union of husband and wife, to spouses for life regardless of gender composition. Do support further redefinition, to include, other consenting adult relationships? After all, we wouldn't want to insult anyone.Yes, we know you don't like the notion of these couples marrying. But you have yet to offer any legally valid reason to stop such marriages.
Fair enough.I was not defining marriage. I was asking a question seeking more information.
Brian, would you be so kind as to clarify for Dave?Since I was asking Brian to clarify his statements, he would/could have better defined what he meant when he declared that marriage as an institution would not be good for certain people. I was not making any statements of fact but merely asking for clarification.