State online sales tax bill takes the stage at Senate

Mar 21, 2013 Full story: Reuters 75

Legislation allowing states to collect sales taxes on goods sold over the Internet made its way to the Senate floor on Thursday - a sign that a decades-long struggle by states to tax businesses beyond their borders could end this year.

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“Proud To Be An American”

Since: Apr 07

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#1 Mar 21, 2013
Let me tell you how it will be
There's one for you, nineteen for me
'Cause I'm the taxman, yeah, I'm the taxman

Should five per cent appear too small
Be thankful I don't take it all
'Cause I'm the taxman, yeah I'm the taxman

If you drive a car, I'll tax the street,
If you try to sit, I'll tax your seat.
If you get too cold I'll tax the heat,
If you take a walk, I'll tax your feet.

Don't ask me what I want it for
If you don't want to pay some more
'Cause I'm the taxman, yeah, I'm the taxman

Now my advice for those who die
Declare the pennies on your eyes
'Cause I'm the taxman, yeah, I'm the taxman
And you're working for no one but me.
Eric Gustafson

Newport News, VA

#2 Mar 21, 2013
A Tax bill should be dead on arrival in the House of Representatives considering the Republicans are flat out against anything tax.

I'm anxious to see if the Republicans fight this tax proposal as hard and as long as they are fighting the proposal to repeal the Bush tax policies that grant entitlement expenditures to American Corporations and the well connected wealthy oligarch.

“Proud To Be An American”

Since: Apr 07

Location hidden

#3 Mar 21, 2013
Eric Gustafson wrote:
A Tax bill should be dead on arrival in the House of Representatives considering the Republicans are flat out against anything tax.
I'm anxious to see if the Republicans fight this tax proposal as hard and as long as they are fighting the proposal to repeal the Bush tax policies that grant entitlement expenditures to American Corporations and the well connected wealthy oligarch.
Attention eric gust-o-sht!!! That's right you democRat azzhat just what online sales need--a sick-minded tax added to the very high cost of shipping.
The economy stinks thanks to stuck on stupid blame-Bush jerks like you who stand for nothing and fall for anything...Now GFY.
dwag

United States

#4 Mar 21, 2013
Reminds me of the innkeepers song in Les Miserable"

Reasonable charges plus some little extra on the side
Charge them for the lice
Extra for the mice
Two per cent for looking in the mirror twice
Here a little slice
There a little cut
Three percent for sleeping with the window shut
When it comes to fixing prices
There are lots of tricks to know
How it all increases
All them bits and pieces Jesus!
It's amazing how it grows

Politicians would tax taking a dump if they could figure out how to do it.
Cat74

Mchenry, IL

#5 Mar 21, 2013
Keep track of all politicians who vote yes for this, or if they have a voice vote vote all of them out of office. If they want to pick our pockets then we should put them on unemployment. That goes for Democrats, and Republicans. Start today grooming a 3rd party, as both major partys seem to treat citizens with the same disrespect.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#6 Mar 22, 2013
This will cost more to enforce than it will ever collect.
Aria

Canyon Lake, TX

#7 Mar 22, 2013
Yes, destroy Capitalism online. That's a great idea!
Makes sense

Dearborn, MI

#8 Mar 22, 2013
What's the big deal?

The shipper adds the tax of the state where it is shipped.

The problem is that we don't tax the sh!t coming from China.

“Moderately yours....”

Since: Aug 12

Buffalo, NY

#9 Mar 22, 2013
Makes sense wrote:
What's the big deal?
The shipper adds the tax of the state where it is shipped.
The problem is that we don't tax the sh!t coming from China.
yep absolutely
If you come into a store in New York and buy something you pay sales tax, you order the same item off of the internet no tax.
What you have done here is made tax policy pick winners and losers. And you have rewarded those who employ the fewest.
Don't whine about your loss I get my Cigars internet and this will tax my luxury
lolol

Albuquerque, NM

#10 Mar 22, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
This will cost more to enforce than it will ever collect.
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half the online krap on ebay anymore gets bought directly from china anyway
CBOW

Dover, PA

#11 Mar 22, 2013
Makes sense wrote:
What's the big deal?
The shipper adds the tax of the state where it is shipped.
The problem is that we don't tax the sh!t coming from China.
Because forcing someone to collect taxes to send to this bloated government is SLAVERY!

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#12 Mar 22, 2013
lolol wrote:
<quoted text>
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half the online krap on ebay anymore gets bought directly from china anyway
Is eBay the only online shopping store you know about? Wow, you really need to get around more. Turn off that World of Warcraft and actualy surf the web.

It wouldn't surprise me if you didn't know what icanhazcheeseburger.
Makes sense

Dearborn, MI

#13 Mar 22, 2013
CBOW wrote:
<quoted text>
Because forcing someone to collect taxes to send to this bloated government is SLAVERY!
Oh my poor CPA!
Makes sense

Dearborn, MI

#14 Mar 22, 2013
CBOW wrote:
<quoted text>
Because forcing someone to collect taxes to send to this bloated government is SLAVERY!
Hey, drama queen, don't shop owners already do that?

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#15 Mar 22, 2013
Makes sense wrote:
<quoted text>
Hey, drama queen, don't shop owners already do that?
Not in Oregon.
Makes sense

Dearborn, MI

#16 Mar 22, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
<quoted text>
Not in Oregon.
Really? NO STATE TAXES, even on hotels, airline tickets, rental cars?

There is a 1 percent tax on all lodging in Oregon, no? Is it slavery for hotels to have to collect the tax that was levied by the people (legislature) of Oregon?

Even if there were no state sales taxes in Oregon, then why would people in Oregon care about other states collecting taxes owed to their state? What about state rights?
Cat74

Palatine, IL

#17 Mar 22, 2013
These slimeball politicians would tax the air we breath if they could figure out how to turn it off if we didn't pay. I wouldn't mind if they did something for all the people, but this is to give more freebies to the shiftless of society

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#18 Mar 22, 2013
Makes sense wrote:
<quoted text>
Really? NO STATE TAXES, even on hotels, airline tickets, rental cars?
There is a 1 percent tax on all lodging in Oregon, no? Is it slavery for hotels to have to collect the tax that was levied by the people (legislature) of Oregon?
Even if there were no state sales taxes in Oregon, then why would people in Oregon care about other states collecting taxes owed to their state? What about state rights?
Now you are making assertions for people, typical wingnut.

No, it's too complicated to regulate efficiently and will cost more than it takes in, period.
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“Moderately yours....”

Since: Aug 12

Buffalo, NY

#20 Mar 23, 2013
CBOW wrote:
<quoted text>
Because forcing someone to collect taxes to send to this bloated government is SLAVERY!
and so collecting taxes is slavery?

“Moderately yours....”

Since: Aug 12

Buffalo, NY

#21 Mar 23, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
<quoted text>
Now you are making assertions for people, typical wingnut.
No, it's too complicated to regulate efficiently and will cost more than it takes in, period.
Were did you get the conculsion that it will take in less than its costs
Qoutes from posted article.
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This is a question of states' rights," said Senator Lamar Alexander, a Republican from Tennessee. "Does a state, any state, have the right itself to decide to collect existing taxes from the people who owe the taxes?"

Answer: Yes a state does have the right to collect the taxes that it is owed
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Fitch Ratings estimates that states currently lose $11 billion in tax revenues without the online levy.

#1 reason why it is needed : Cash strapped states will then be required to raise other taxes and fees to make up for lost revenue or cut services. Thus there would be a massive transfer of wealth from the tax payers of the state to online business's.
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Small retailers, meanwhile, have said the sales tax will allow them to compete with massive online retailers.

#2 reason why it is needed: With out collecting the tax we are choosing winners and losers with the ax code. And we are picking as winners those business's that employ the fewest people. Small business and the people who are employed by the deserve a level playing field
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The legislation would "level the playing field for small retailers in Minnesota and across the country," said Senator Al Franken, a Democrat from Minnesota. "The current sales tax system makes it impossible for them."
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