Giffords asks Congress for bold gun c...

Giffords asks Congress for bold gun control bill

There are 204 comments on the NBC29 story from Jan 30, 2013, titled Giffords asks Congress for bold gun control bill. In it, NBC29 reports that:

A retired barber accused of shooting a California urologist to death in his Newport Beach exam room is due to appear in court for the first time Wednesday.

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“Now do whats right!”

Since: Jan 09

Doolittle, Mo.

#111 Feb 2, 2013
Largelanguage wrote:
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As you chant that just like a child who believes old age will never exist! Stay in your basement and don't come out!
"THE SKY IS FALLING, THE SKY IS FALLING". Uuhhh IT IS NOT ME CRYING {CHANTING} RATHER IT IS THOSE DELUSIONAL PARANOID AMERICAN HATERS!

YOU MAY NOT HAVE NOTICED THE QUOTATION MARKS.

Are you amongst those chanters?
Dude

Winchester, VA

#112 Feb 2, 2013
CB can see both sides wrote:
<quoted text>"THE SKY IS FALLING, THE SKY IS FALLING". Uuhhh IT IS NOT ME CRYING {CHANTING} RATHER IT IS THOSE DELUSIONAL PARANOID AMERICAN HATERS!
YOU MAY NOT HAVE NOTICED THE QUOTATION MARKS.
Are you amongst those chanters?
largelanguage is a troll... Don't feed the trolls

“Antisocialistic”

Since: May 12

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#113 Feb 2, 2013
moronfinder wrote:
<quoted text>Who's talking about taking anyone's guns? And Gabby did have security there, but it happened so fast not even Quick Draw Mcgraw Guardian could have unleashed his manly arsenal to fill 'em full of lead. interesting how you have such detailed information about the shooters political beliefs. Is he a friend of yours? Perhaps you two played together with your "guns". And the fact that you can claim you know how people feel (people you don't know and have never even met), is most impressive. It leads me to the question: if you have these so called psychic abilities, then why aren't you out there right now systematically eliminating all our bad guys?

Thanks for the comedy Guardian. And I don't think ANYONE wants to know what you "do" with your guns.
You liberals sound like a broken record. You constantly attempt using smoke and mirrors to put words in people's mouths.
Please show where the poster said anything about anyone taking their guns.
Guardian wrote:
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Gabby and her husband are now part and parcel of a left wing liberal union of gun grabbers. period. She is a handgun owner who chose not to carry, or hire security, that was stupid, when she is involved in politics, she was shot by a liberal democrat, not surprising since they feel only those that think like they do should have guns. As far as what I do with my gun, it ain't none of your, or the government's business.

“Antisocialistic”

Since: May 12

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#114 Feb 2, 2013
CB can see both sides wrote:
<quoted text>The gun nut who shot this true American did not "blow out the part of her brain" that is used for whats right, intelligent and needed. She has that need to protect other Americans as she would have wished American had protected her!

Let me ask you this, If that had been you or those close to you would have been shot in the head would you still have your non-gun control agenda?

Simple, I will accept a simple yes or no.

I have asked this question hundreds of times and only recieved two answers:

1. Yes, I would let my children die for my right.

2. I will not fall into that trap!{In which I responded if you think that questionis a trap, what does that say for you and your empathy for others.}
Yes.
I'm intelligent enough to look at the facts. The fact is that cities with the strictest gun control laws, have the most gun murders. The fact is that although gun numbers have been rising over the last 8 or 9 years, the number of gun murders have been decreasing. Another fact is, Blacks are the largest contributing race to gun murders.
I'm waiting on and expecting the racist label. But before you cast it. Check the FBI statistics on gun murders by race. Facts published by a government agency can't be racist. Therefore repeating those facts is not racist.

“Now do whats right!”

Since: Jan 09

Doolittle, Mo.

#115 Feb 2, 2013
Prep-for-Dep wrote:
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Yes.
I'm intelligent enough to look at the facts. The fact is that cities with the strictest gun control laws, have the most gun murders. The fact is that although gun numbers have been rising over the last 8 or 9 years, the number of gun murders have been decreasing. Another fact is, Blacks are the largest contributing race to gun murders.
I'm waiting on and expecting the racist label. But before you cast it. Check the FBI statistics on gun murders by race. Facts published by a government agency can't be racist. Therefore repeating those facts is not racist.
Then I feel sorry for you, if you do not have that ability to realize how much of a gift health and life is.
sez you

Charlottesville, VA

#116 Feb 2, 2013
Prep-for-Dep wrote:
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Yes.
I'm intelligent enough to look at the facts. The fact is that cities with the strictest gun control laws, have the most gun murders. The fact is that although gun numbers have been rising over the last 8 or 9 years, the number of gun murders have been decreasing. Another fact is, Blacks are the largest contributing race to gun murders.
I'm waiting on and expecting the racist label. But before you cast it. Check the FBI statistics on gun murders by race. Facts published by a government agency can't be racist. Therefore repeating those facts is not racist.
Fact is we're the most violent develpoed contry on earth, why? guns.

“Antisocialistic”

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#117 Feb 2, 2013
CB can see both sides wrote:
<quoted text>Then I feel sorry for you, if you do not have that ability to realize how much of a gift health and life is.
I do realize how much of a gift health and life is. But unlike the liberals chasing their tails, I also realize banning guns and magazines does nothing but increase the chance that innocents get injured or murdered.
I notice you ignored all the facts that have been posted proving that.
So who is it really that takes the gift of health and life lightly?

“Antisocialistic”

Since: May 12

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#118 Feb 2, 2013
sez you wrote:
<quoted text>Fact is we're the most violent develpoed contry on earth, why? guns.
Lmao! Are you serious? Guns MAKE us violent? I'm sorry but if you believe that, then radios make us musicians, water makes us swimmers, and tents make us outdoorsmen.

The answer to your question has already been provided. You simply choose to ignore or deny it because its not PC.

“Now do whats right!”

Since: Jan 09

Doolittle, Mo.

#119 Feb 2, 2013
Prep-for-Dep wrote:
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I do realize how much of a gift health and life is. But unlike the liberals chasing their tails, I also realize banning guns and magazines does nothing but increase the chance that innocents get injured or murdered.
I notice you ignored all the facts that have been posted proving that.
So who is it really that takes the gift of health and life lightly?
Facts to one is not evidence to another I can counter every one of your facts with my own for gun control and you would disagree. I say military type weapons are chosen by "gun nuts" to kill as many as they can and quickly as they can. Do you agree with those facts?

These "gun nut mass killers" are delusional paranoid individuals who see themselves as "super gun handlers" and believe the more mass deaths they can "add up" the more satisfied they feel.

I have a family member who is a first responder, would I rather he come up against a "gun nut" with a Bushmaster .223 with a thirty round clip or a bolt action hunting rifle. Unlike you, I would forfeit all my weapons if I knew it would save his health or life.

“Now do whats right!”

Since: Jan 09

Doolittle, Mo.

#120 Feb 2, 2013
Prep-for-Dep wrote:
<quoted text>
Lmao! Are you serious? Guns MAKE us violent? I'm sorry but if you believe that, then radios make us musicians, water makes us swimmers, and tents make us outdoorsmen.
The answer to your question has already been provided. You simply choose to ignore or deny it because its not PC.
These example you give have the availability to make those activites easier and enjoyable to some.{As military type weapons with extended magazines also make mass murder easier and enjoyable to some}
Guardian

Palmyra, VA

#121 Feb 2, 2013
moronfinder wrote:
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Who's talking about taking anyone's guns? And Gabby did have security there, but it happened so fast not even Quick Draw Mcgraw Guardian could have unleashed his manly arsenal to fill 'em full of lead. interesting how you have such detailed information about the shooters political beliefs. Is he a friend of yours? Perhaps you two played together with your "guns". And the fact that you can claim you know how people feel (people you don't know and have never even met), is most impressive. It leads me to the question: if you have these so called psychic abilities, then why aren't you out there right now systematically eliminating all our bad guys?
Thanks for the comedy Guardian. And I don't think ANYONE wants to know what you "do" with your guns.
If you are looking for a moron, look no further than your nearest mirror. She had no security present, where did you hear that? Did Piers Morgen tell you that last night on CNN? You libtards really don't have a clue, now do you? Your whole left wing-nut, gun grabbing agenda is unraveling all around you, and I love it. Her assailant was a liberal registered democrat nut-job, just like you, probably sat next to you at a code pink rally.
Guardian

Palmyra, VA

#122 Feb 2, 2013
moronfinder wrote:
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Who's talking about taking anyone's guns? And Gabby did have security there, but it happened so fast not even Quick Draw Mcgraw Guardian could have unleashed his manly arsenal to fill 'em full of lead. interesting how you have such detailed information about the shooters political beliefs. Is he a friend of yours? Perhaps you two played together with your "guns". And the fact that you can claim you know how people feel (people you don't know and have never even met), is most impressive. It leads me to the question: if you have these so called psychic abilities, then why aren't you out there right now systematically eliminating all our bad guys?
Thanks for the comedy Guardian. And I don't think ANYONE wants to know what you "do" with your guns.
Who provided her with "security" when she was shot? Nobody because she had none. Her handgun was locked in a vault in her basement, and law enforcement didn't show up on scene until 3 minutes after the first 911 call was made to the Sheriffs office. Get your facts straight, oh yeah, that's right, FACTS don't matter to Libtards when they get in the way of an agenda to disarm the public. You weak willed liberals are a disgrace to the human race. Your kind can only exist in this society because of the protections afforded to you from those that you loath. You are not as important as you think, and with the next election democrats will be in the minority again, and the damage you libtards have done to the democrat party and this nation will be corrected.

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#123 Feb 2, 2013
One shooting is not a counterbalance to millions of americans rights.

Giffords and Dupnik should have had townhall meetings and armed security.
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“Antisocialistic”

Since: May 12

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#125 Feb 2, 2013
CB can see both sides wrote:
<quoted text>Facts to one is not evidence to another I can counter every one of your facts with my own for gun control and you would disagree. I say military type weapons are chosen by "gun nuts" to kill as many as they can and quickly as they can. Do you agree with those facts?

These "gun nut mass killers" are delusional paranoid individuals who see themselves as "super gun handlers" and believe the more mass deaths they can "add up" the more satisfied they feel.

I have a family member who is a first responder, would I rather he come up against a "gun nut" with a Bushmaster .223 with a thirty round clip or a bolt action hunting rifle. Unlike you, I would forfeit all my weapons if I knew it would save his health or life.
Your first sentence says it all.
Your mind is made up, and facts are not going to change your mind.
So, go ahead and counter each one of the facts I presented.

And no, I don't agree with those "facts". The Sandy Hook shooter used common handguns despite what the mainstream media spoon fed you. An AR-15 Bushmaster was found in his trunk, but wasn't used. I say these mental cases choose gun free zones to kill as many victims as they can before police finally show up.

The fact that you know exactly what is going through the delusional paranoid gun nut mass killers' heads should be concerning to you.

As for your last paragraph, Lee Harvey Oswald used a bolt action hunting rifle. The 4 or 5 rounds in a bolt action can be shot quite quickly by someone that knows what they are doing. And you totally tell off on yourself here. You really need to do your own research rather than parroting what the mainstream media has told you. Your nomenclature is off. And the real tell is in your last sentence. Even you aren't convinced forfeiting guns will make anyone safer.
VN Vet

Richmond, VA

#126 Feb 2, 2013
Remember, "liberals lie, and liars are liberal".

“Antisocialistic”

Since: May 12

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#127 Feb 2, 2013
CB can see both sides wrote:
<quoted text>These example you give have the availability to make those activites easier and enjoyable to some.{As military type weapons with extended magazines also make mass murder easier and enjoyable to some}
How many straws did you get with that grasp?
Bottom line, you can debate with misinformation, propaganda, and ignorance all you want. It's moot point. "SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED", it not in any other Amendment, but it's in the Second. That means in no way can the right of the people to keep and bear arms be limited or undermined.

“Now do whats right!”

Since: Jan 09

Doolittle, Mo.

#128 Feb 2, 2013
Prep-for-Dep wrote:
<quoted text>
Your first sentence says it all.
Your mind is made up, and facts are not going to change your mind.
So, go ahead and counter each one of the facts I presented.
And no, I don't agree with those "facts". The Sandy Hook shooter used common handguns despite what the mainstream media spoon fed you. An AR-15 Bushmaster was found in his trunk, but wasn't used. I say these mental cases choose gun free zones to kill as many victims as they can before police finally show up.
The fact that you know exactly what is going through the delusional paranoid gun nut mass killers' heads should be concerning to you.
As for your last paragraph, Lee Harvey Oswald used a bolt action hunting rifle. The 4 or 5 rounds in a bolt action can be shot quite quickly by someone that knows what they are doing. And you totally tell off on yourself here. You really need to do your own research rather than parroting what the mainstream media has told you. Your nomenclature is off. And the real tell is in your last sentence. Even you aren't convinced forfeiting guns will make anyone safer.
And you cannot accept true evidence about the Sandy Hook baby killings. You prefer to ignore the facts given by the First responders and the CT Highway Patrol. If you, believe some backward hicks instead of our professionals then that is definitely your problem.

I care not if you believe me on the baby killer using a Bushmaster .223.

With your denial and stance you most likely will not take my advice here, but if you might Google. CT Highway Patrol, Coroner and First Responders Crime Evidence on the Sandy Hook Mass Shooting where it absolutly states "most chidren were shot between four and six times with a Bushmaster .223 military type weapon".

So are you saying there should be no Media Coverage due to the simple fact it goes against your agenda?

With your alignment with censorship I'm beginning to believe you are afraid to hear anything derogatory when it may show revelence to a subject.

I also noticed you did not compare a bolt action rifle and a semi-automatic weapon. You may not have efficient knowledge on weapon performance, but a bolt action weapon cannot compare even close to the rapid pull of a finger on a semi-automatic weapon for "spraying" number of rounds. While the elapsed time of losing visual contact of a target while pulling bolt back, ejecting spent hull, closing chamber, resighting target, and pulling trigger >>IS<< a long elapsed time when compared to keeping eye on target and pulling trigger, it is life and death of a split second. An effiecent bolt action shooter will get one shot while the semi shooter will send three to four rounds. The bolt action rifle is more accurate when time allows {long distance sniper or sporting shots} but for close up and elapsed time element the semi is far superior, bar none. Just as a fully automatic and semi would have a difference.

“Now do whats right!”

Since: Jan 09

Doolittle, Mo.

#129 Feb 2, 2013
Largelanguage wrote:
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Obama is the criminal, get it? Obama wants to unarm everybody before he attacks them! Obama won, ABSOLUTELY! But America lost!
"Before he attacks them"
Unfounded paranoia and delusional personality enforced by groups such as NRA!

Ask who benefits from weapon sales and who spouts this urban legend.

You must have a "super hero" attitude towards our president, if you believe he has the ability to take every weapon in America. UNLESS, you also believe our military personnel, or liberals, or whoever are involved in this urban legend.

Jeesssscccch people, stop following "gun nut" propaganda and use common sense!

“Antisocialistic”

Since: May 12

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#130 Feb 2, 2013
CB can see both sides wrote:
<quoted text>And you cannot accept true evidence about the Sandy Hook baby killings. You prefer to ignore the facts given by the First responders and the CT Highway Patrol. If you, believe some backward hicks instead of our professionals then that is definitely your problem.

I care not if you believe me on the baby killer using a Bushmaster .223.

With your denial and stance you most likely will not take my advice here, but if you might Google. CT Highway Patrol, Coroner and First Responders Crime Evidence on the Sandy Hook Mass Shooting where it absolutly states "most chidren were shot between four and six times with a Bushmaster .223 military type weapon".

So are you saying there should be no Media Coverage due to the simple fact it goes against your agenda?

With your alignment with censorship I'm beginning to believe you are afraid to hear anything derogatory when it may show revelence to a subject.

I also noticed you did not compare a bolt action rifle and a semi-automatic weapon. You may not have efficient knowledge on weapon performance, but a bolt action weapon cannot compare even close to the rapid pull of a finger on a semi-automatic weapon for "spraying" number of rounds. While the elapsed time of losing visual contact of a target while pulling bolt back, ejecting spent hull, closing chamber, resighting target, and pulling trigger >>IS<< a long elapsed time when compared to keeping eye on target and pulling trigger, it is life and death of a split second. An effiecent bolt action shooter will get one shot while the semi shooter will send three to four rounds. The bolt action rifle is more accurate when time allows {long distance sniper or sporting shots} but for close up and elapsed time element the semi is far superior, bar none. Just as a fully automatic and semi would have a difference.
Have you checked the evidence since the initial information about Sandy Hook? Are you implying I got my information off the street? Or maybe you are implying only FOX NEWS reported that the Bushmaster was actually left in the trunk?

I realize you don't care about facts.

Yes it does say that. Quite interesting considering the shooter used four handguns, isn't it? But let me guess, I'm a conspiracy theorist right?

Not at all! I'm saying the media shouldn't be biased to a liberal agenda!

Lmao! Not even worth a response.

You have no idea who you are talking to. I am well aware of the features and function of semi auto rifles and bolt action rifles. Your point is moot. The 2nd bans limiting or undermining people's gun rights. And as I recall, troops in several wars, troops in several conflicts, and Lee Harvey Oswald utilized bolt action rifles quite effectively.

It is gun free zones that are responsible for the mass shootings. The media is responsible for convincing you they are on the rise, when in fact they are decreasing in frequency. And lack of enforcement of laws and punishment of criminals that is responsible for the high murder rate in this country.
Guardian

Palmyra, VA

#131 Feb 2, 2013
CB can see both sides wrote:
<quoted text> "Before he attacks them"
Unfounded paranoia and delusional personality enforced by groups such as NRA!
Ask who benefits from weapon sales and who spouts this urban legend.
You must have a "super hero" attitude towards our president, if you believe he has the ability to take every weapon in America. UNLESS, you also believe our military personnel, or liberals, or whoever are involved in this urban legend.
Jeesssscccch people, stop following "gun nut" propaganda and use common sense!
If by "common sense" don't you mean follow blindly Obama and his left wing-nut libtard propaganda? The NRA is about 4 1/2 million people, get it, not one would-be dictator, not the same liberal political party that attacked the 2nd Amendment in 94'. We know what the left wing socialist in this country want, and they will not be allowed to have it. It ain't a conspiracy if it is true. The gun nuts in this country are the socialist, so called "progressives" that have an overly exaggerated fear of armed defiance from Americans that will never accept their will, or stand idly by while they attempt to destroy the Constitution of the United States. The freedom to keep and bear arms will not be infringed any further by this administration or any other in the future. The court battles are only beginning, and those in political office that continue to act in defiance of the rule of law will be paying out huge. The NRA has recently been awarded millions of dollars by the courts from big cities who placed unconstitutional restrictions on law abiding citizens limiting their ability to defend themselves from criminals. The only one who is out of touch is the liberal, but the liberal will be put in touch with reality by the results of the next election.

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