Spin Meter: Despite Obama's warning, Social Security checks could flow absent a debt deal

There are 170 comments on the The Washington Post story from Jan 15, 2013, titled Spin Meter: Despite Obama's warning, Social Security checks could flow absent a debt deal. In it, The Washington Post reports that:

No one doubts dire things will happen, and fast, if the government runs out of borrowing authority in coming weeks.

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Robert

Douglasville, GA

#1 Jan 15, 2013
Of course they would, Obama would get to decide what money to not pay or pay partially. The only way social security checks or payments to veterans would get delayed is if he decided to.

He only said that knowing he was lying when he did to use people most vulnerable to his political advantage. What a jerk, he could have used to moment to say don't worry your social security check will be there as always, we will pay the interest on our debts as always but we will be holding back on contractors working on federal projects. That is what a real leader would have said.

But what do we get, you might not get your social security and I am not dealing on the debt limit. Sends the message he does not care about the vulnerable and has no interest in reducing our debt.
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“i hope we can change this!”

Since: Aug 08

usa

#3 Jan 15, 2013
obama pulled the same scare tactics the last time...
it was a bunch of bullshit then, it's a bunch of bullshit now.

Since: Mar 09

The Left Coast

#4 Jan 15, 2013
We will still get to pay the 2% withholding tax increase Obama just gave us, right?
Robert

Douglasville, GA

#5 Jan 15, 2013
I look with interest to how long it is going to take us to realize we don't have the money to pay the 47%. The number will not be 47 by then as we are currently in the area of 3 workers supporting every 1 on SS. It started at 5 to 1 and will be 2 to 1 in 2030. This debt ceiling thing is going to do nothing but get worse every year for the next couple of decades at least.

“Obama Shames the USA”

Since: Apr 09

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#6 Jan 15, 2013
Obamalies and F--ks things up? What a surprise!
Benghazi.

“Forever Is Promised To No One”

Since: Nov 12

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#7 Jan 15, 2013
White House readies 19 executive orders on guns...

CONGRESSMAN WARNS OBAMA: IMPEACH YOU

LEVIN:'We Have An Imperial President'...

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#8 Jan 15, 2013
I think the point is ALL govt spending SHOULD cease immediately if we default on our debt, including social security & veterans benefits & obviously congressional pay/benefits.

It's the only way the sheeple will understand how serious an issue it is.

And I say this as a retired veteran who receives a monthly pension check.

“Forever Is Promised To No One”

Since: Nov 12

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#9 Jan 15, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
I think the point is ALL govt spending SHOULD cease immediately if we default on our debt, including social security & veterans benefits & obviously congressional pay/benefits.
It's the only way the sheeple will understand how serious an issue it is.
And I say this as a retired veteran who receives a monthly pension check.
Social Security and medicare are self funded and not constricted by the budget or lack of budge as is the case. SSI for illegals, ACORN, Money to bankrupt green companies and Obama spending 7 milllion on vacations is what can be cut or not paid. We have plenty of money to pay our DEBT, but not to wasted it funding terrorist organizations and golf outing.

“Obama Shames the USA”

Since: Apr 09

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#10 Jan 15, 2013
Obama is lying to us AGAIN??
It never stops.
Benghazi.
Your Ex

United States

#11 Jan 15, 2013
RustyS wrote:
We will still get to pay the 2% withholding tax increase Obama just gave us, right?
A return to normal is an increase.
I love Frightwing "logic"!!

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#12 Jan 15, 2013
au contraire wrote:
<quoted text>Social Security and medicare are self funded and not constricted by the budget or lack of budge as is the case. SSI for illegals, ACORN, Money to bankrupt green companies and Obama spending 7 milllion on vacations is what can be cut or not paid. We have plenty of money to pay our DEBT, but not to wasted it funding terrorist organizations and golf outing.
Not suprising you missed the entire point once again.

“Forever Is Promised To No One”

Since: Nov 12

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#13 Jan 15, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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Not suprising you missed the entire point once again.
There is no point in your spin. It is what it is.

“Forever Is Promised To No One”

Since: Nov 12

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#14 Jan 15, 2013
Your Ex wrote:
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A return to normal is an increase.
I love Frightwing "logic"!!
Sure, plus 2% is an increase. Have your gerbil splain it to you rufus.
Your Ex

United States

#15 Jan 15, 2013
au contraire wrote:
<quoted text>Sure, plus 2% is an increase. Have your gerbil splain it to you rufus.
Poor AuJimbo.
If you sober up at some point
Research what a tax 'holiday' is.

Since: Oct 08

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#16 Jan 15, 2013
The little douche always threatens the elderly or veteran with no payment. why doesn't go after the obuttwipe phones and his lazy ass 47%ers.

“Forever Is Promised To No One”

Since: Nov 12

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#17 Jan 15, 2013
Your Ex wrote:
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Poor AuJimbo.
If you sober up at some point
Research what a tax 'holiday' is.
An insult, how shocking. Less shocking was the fact you couldn't prove me wrong........again. Give it up pookie, back to the minor leagues.

“Forever Is Promised To No One”

Since: Nov 12

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#18 Jan 15, 2013
Skuttlebutt wrote:
The little douche always threatens the elderly or veteran with no payment. why doesn't go after the obuttwipe phones and his lazy ass 47%ers.
He is scared. He hasn't been in a black neighborhood since he was elected in 2009.

“Forever Is Promised To No One”

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#19 Jan 15, 2013
Ninthman wrote:
Obamalies and F--ks things up? What a surprise!
Benghazi.
Flash: This just in.........Obama and Liberals touting all they will do to change the gun laws is bunk. It will take a constitutional congress to change the constitution and with a majority of right leaning govenors and each state having one vote to ratify, it ain't gonna happen.
Robert

Douglasville, GA

#20 Jan 15, 2013
au contraire wrote:
<quoted text>Social Security and medicare are self funded and not constricted by the budget or lack of budge as is the case. SSI for illegals, ACORN, Money to bankrupt green companies and Obama spending 7 milllion on vacations is what can be cut or not paid. We have plenty of money to pay our DEBT, but not to wasted it funding terrorist organizations and golf outing.
I wish they were self funded but they are not. They are only partially self funded.

Social Security started self funded with the excess going into reserves to take care of later burdens. Congress raided the fund spending all the reserves, every penny. They left an iou and that is supposed to make it ok. We no longer have that problem because since last year there is no excess any more and all the extra money needed for the baby boomers will have to come from someone. So in a way you are right it was self funded assuming you did the right things with the excess (like invest it) but it is no longer because we did not.

As to medicare it never was self funded in the first place, at least not from the stand point of putting aside enough money to make sure we would have the money to pay the benefits later. The medicare shortfall makes the social security shortfall look like nothing.

Had it been done right the money necessary to sustain the program would have been constantly adjusted as necessary and the excess would be off limits to politicians.

Since: Mar 09

The Left Coast

#21 Jan 15, 2013
Your Ex wrote:
<quoted text>
A return to normal is an increase.
I love Frightwing "logic"!!
I do love progressive math. We wanted to take 5% from your paycheck, but we only took 2%, so, you actually saved 3%. Working people must be stupid, they just donít seem to get it.

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