Science, sex and birth control

Science, sex and birth control

There are 89 comments on the Chicago Tribune story from Apr 10, 2013, titled Science, sex and birth control. In it, Chicago Tribune reports that:

A judge's ruling this month means that morning-after contraception must be made available over the counter within 30 days.

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Ninthman

“Obama Shames the USA”

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#1 Apr 11, 2013
Communism much?

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#2 Apr 11, 2013
Ninthman wrote:
Communism much?
Actually, this would be a perfect example of capitalism. what a stupid tool!

back to 2nd grade for you...
Sterkfontein Swartkrans

Richmond, IN

#3 Apr 11, 2013
There have actually been cases of pharmacists refusing to dispense 'plan b' for 'religious' or 'moral' reasons. I they won't do their job they should find another profession.
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Ninthman

“Obama Shames the USA”

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#5 Apr 11, 2013
Obama's
'Kill the babies for communism' is going quite well for him and the commie buttrangler democrats.

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#6 Apr 11, 2013
We in America have really lowered the bar on morals and the value of life.

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#7 Apr 11, 2013
My Portal wrote:
We in America have really lowered the bar on morals and the value of life.
in fact, we are far more moral than when I was growing up...

the further we get away from the shackles of the religious cults, the better of our nation will be.

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#8 Apr 12, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>in fact, we are far more moral than when I was growing up...
the further we get away from the shackles of the religious cults, the better of our nation will be.
Will you justify and prove your theory? History seems to disagree with you.

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#9 Apr 12, 2013
My Portal wrote:
<quoted text>Will you justify and prove your theory? History seems to disagree with you.
no, in fact it doesn't. religion took over rule in Europe and they got hte dark ages. then persia took over as the center of science and learning, then religion took over there. they still haven't recovered.

look at the least religious countries on Earth now. they have the highest standard of living, the healthiest, happiest citizenry and the best educated kids.

religious cults hold people, and nations, back from their true potential.

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#10 Apr 12, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>no, in fact it doesn't. religion took over rule in Europe and they got hte dark ages. then persia took over as the center of science and learning, then religion took over there. they still haven't recovered.
look at the least religious countries on Earth now. they have the highest standard of living, the healthiest, happiest citizenry and the best educated kids.
religious cults hold people, and nations, back from their true potential.
Well a little empire known as Roman seems to prove you wrong. The closer they came to being Sodom and Gomorrah the more their decline hastened. As America has become more immoral, we also have declined, as did Europe. Most of the empires that used to exist collapsed because of declining morals and the corruption that it inspires.

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#11 Apr 12, 2013
My Portal wrote:
<quoted text>Well a little empire known as Roman seems to prove you wrong. The closer they came to being Sodom and Gomorrah the more their decline hastened. As America has become more immoral, we also have declined, as did Europe. Most of the empires that used to exist collapsed because of declining morals and the corruption that it inspires.
in fact, it was after they adopted christianity that the fall of the roman empire started.

history is fun!

the US is far more moral than when I was a kid. blacks were still being hung for just being black. they were treated as second class citizens, as were women.

the further we get from stone-age cults the better our nation will become.
concernedcitizen

Carmel, IN

#12 Apr 12, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>no, in fact it doesn't. religion took over rule in Europe and they got hte dark ages. then persia took over as the center of science and learning, then religion took over there. they still haven't recovered.
look at the least religious countries on Earth now. they have the highest standard of living, the healthiest, happiest citizenry and the best educated kids.
religious cults hold people, and nations, back from their true potential.
Actually, it's your kind of hatred and bigotry that holds societies back. It's not religion that holds people back....it's people that hold themselves back.

I believe in God but I also believe the morning after pill should be accessible...but in this day of litigation, there should be caution in it's use. I'm more concerned about the power of these hormones being used without the supervision of a doctor.

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#13 Apr 12, 2013
concernedcitizen wrote:
<quoted text>Actually, it's your kind of hatred and bigotry that holds societies back. It's not religion that holds people back....it's people that hold themselves back.
I believe in God but I also believe the morning after pill should be accessible...but in this day of litigation, there should be caution in it's use. I'm more concerned about the power of these hormones being used without the supervision of a doctor.
how is propagating proven myths helpful to a society?
concernedcitizen

Carmel, IN

#14 Apr 12, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>in fact, it was after they adopted christianity that the fall of the roman empire started.
history is fun!
the US is far more moral than when I was a kid. blacks were still being hung for just being black. they were treated as second class citizens, as were women.
the further we get from stone-age cults the better our nation will become.
...And civilizations without religion ate their children. Societies evolve. Religion has had some presence in humanity as soon as humans were able to think beyond their basic instincts for survival. It has taken many forms but all in all, it was a belief in something beyond human capacity.

Today, you see societies where religion is central and yet they are violent savages. You may notice that other countries that include religion-there may be less conflict and more compassion towards humanity. Communism attempts to rid society of religion. Examine the history behind that and you will see the savagery and barbarianism too. Innocent people were brutally massacred for engaging in any kind of religious activity or even possessing it. In other words, it's not the religion, it's people who are seeking power and control. These people are found within religious and non religious groups alike.

Why don't you take a trip to Papau New Guinea and you will find they eat those they don't like. In Africa, blacks continue to enslave their brothers and sisters and they have been doing it for centuries.

People should have the right to practice their beliefs so long as it does not hurt another. The morning after pill involves the belief of when human life becomes a person. This is an argument of conscience and one that will never be resolved because people have the freedom to practice their faith in this country. On the other hand, people should have the right to disagree with such a view on personhood..... as concepti is not a complete human being, imo. I am mostly concerned with the safety of this drug.
concernedcitizen

Carmel, IN

#15 Apr 12, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>how is propagating proven myths helpful to a society?
What may be myths to you is reality to another. Someone who has felt the presence of God or who has had a 'religious' experience will say their faith is not a myth. You should respect their beliefs as they should respect your belief that you have none.

Religion can be comforting and can also provide stability in children and adults. It can also be manipulated into something damaging but it is the human behind it that is to blame, not religion.

I don't understand why you are so angry about whether someone believes in God or not. There is such hostility towards people of faith and I think that is heartbreaking. Live and let live.

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#16 Apr 12, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>in fact, it was after they adopted christianity that the fall of the roman empire started.
history is fun!
the US is far more moral than when I was a kid. blacks were still being hung for just being black. they were treated as second class citizens, as were women.
the further we get from stone-age cults the better our nation will become.
It is unclear that Nero persecuted the Christians, except for blaming the Great Fire on the small number of Christians living in Rome.

The source for this information is the Roman historian, Tacitus, writing in the century after Nero's death. It seems that a rumour was spreading that the gods allowed the fire to happen because they were angry with Nero. Tacitus may have exaggerated what happened, as he is known to have exaggerated the faults of other Roman emperors he wrote about. He said:

To quash the rumour, therefore, Nero substituted other culprits, those commonly known as Christians, who were ha ted for their disgraceful activities - and he inflicted excruciating punishments on them. Christus, the originator of this name [of Christians], had been executed by the procurator Pontius Pilate during the reign of Tiberius. This deadly superstition, though repressed for a while, wvas breaking out again, not only in Judaea where the evil originated, but even in the city [Rome], where all atrocious or shameful things flow in from all sides and flourish. So, at first, those who acknowledged it were arrested, and then by their evidence a great multitude were convicted, not so much for the crime of arson as for their hatred of the human race.

While it is probable that Nero did persecute the local Christians as a result of the fire, no Christian writngs mentioned this event for over a century. Christian tradition eventually attributed large-scale persecutions to Nero, evidenced by the tradition of Nero feeding Christians to the lions.

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#17 Apr 12, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>how is propagating proven myths helpful to a society?
Can you prove they are myths. You are entitled to your opinion of course, but that's all your theory is, your opinion, unless you can prove differently.

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#18 Apr 12, 2013
concernedcitizen wrote:
<quoted text>
...And civilizations without religion ate their children. Societies evolve. Religion has had some presence in humanity as soon as humans were able to think beyond their basic instincts for survival. It has taken many forms but all in all, it was a belief in something beyond human capacity.
Today, you see societies where religion is central and yet they are violent savages. You may notice that other countries that include religion-there may be less conflict and more compassion towards humanity. Communism attempts to rid society of religion. Examine the history behind that and you will see the savagery and barbarianism too. Innocent people were brutally massacred for engaging in any kind of religious activity or even possessing it. In other words, it's not the religion, it's people who are seeking power and control. These people are found within religious and non religious groups alike.
Why don't you take a trip to Papau New Guinea and you will find they eat those they don't like. In Africa, blacks continue to enslave their brothers and sisters and they have been doing it for centuries.
People should have the right to practice their beliefs so long as it does not hurt another. The morning after pill involves the belief of when human life becomes a person. This is an argument of conscience and one that will never be resolved because people have the freedom to practice their faith in this country. On the other hand, people should have the right to disagree with such a view on personhood..... as concepti is not a complete human being, imo. I am mostly concerned with the safety of this drug.
Really? which civilizations were those? why do you have to make shit up to attempt to back up your cult?

those people you speak of do have religions. it is usually their religions that are spawning that behaviour.

The farther societies get from religious cults the better they get.

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#19 Apr 12, 2013
My Portal wrote:
<quoted text>Can you prove they are myths. You are entitled to your opinion of course, but that's all your theory is, your opinion, unless you can prove differently.
yes. you god did not even get his creation story correct. that is not the god that created the universe then. he would have got the story correct. 9 and divine inspiration obviously doesn't work, if yo want to try that route...)

the Noachian flood is a myth. your saviour jesus is a re-hash of so many previous religious cult myths that is is laughable in its triteness.

your cult is proven to be based on myths and lies. hence, the god of your cult is a myth.

you were lied to by your cult....often...

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#20 Apr 12, 2013
My Portal wrote:
<quoted text>It is unclear that Nero persecuted the Christians, except for blaming the Great Fire on the small number of Christians living in Rome.
The source for this information is the Roman historian, Tacitus, writing in the century after Nero's death. It seems that a rumour was spreading that the gods allowed the fire to happen because they were angry with Nero. Tacitus may have exaggerated what happened, as he is known to have exaggerated the faults of other Roman emperors he wrote about. He said:
To quash the rumour, therefore, Nero substituted other culprits, those commonly known as Christians, who were ha ted for their disgraceful activities - and he inflicted excruciating punishments on them. Christus, the originator of this name [of Christians], had been executed by the procurator Pontius Pilate during the reign of Tiberius. This deadly superstition, though repressed for a while, wvas breaking out again, not only in Judaea where the evil originated, but even in the city [Rome], where all atrocious or shameful things flow in from all sides and flourish. So, at first, those who acknowledged it were arrested, and then by their evidence a great multitude were convicted, not so much for the crime of arson as for their hatred of the human race.
While it is probable that Nero did persecute the local Christians as a result of the fire, no Christian writngs mentioned this event for over a century. Christian tradition eventually attributed large-scale persecutions to Nero, evidenced by the tradition of Nero feeding Christians to the lions.
what does Nero have to do with it? the fall of the empire was far greater than one man, and adopting christianity and it taking over so much power was a major part of its fall.
concernedcitizen

Carmel, IN

#21 Apr 15, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>Really? which civilizations were those? why do you have to make shit up to attempt to back up your cult?
those people you speak of do have religions. it is usually their religions that are spawning that behaviour.
The farther societies get from religious cults the better they get.
Wow, you are one angry something. There is nothing hateful or evil about believing in a superior diety. Throughout human history, these beliefs were integrated within their cultures. Primitive societies utilized religion primitively. You're confusing how humans used religion throughout history with a belief system. So when Puritans burned 'witches' at the stake, it wasn't God that caused them to do it. It was a response to their culture. It has nothing to do with how people worship God today.

BTW: What cult to I belong to? I believe in God like most people but recognize the definition varies from culture to culture. Some cultures may behead a woman for wearing American clothes in the name of 'God' but that doesn't mean God doesn't exist. It just means that's how that culture interprets God.

I am truly sorry that you have such hate and disgust towards people because after all......the vast majority believe in God.

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