Atheists on the march in America

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When South Florida atheists held their first meeting, they were just five friends, having a beer at a bar.

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Since: Feb 08

Tampa, FL

#65327 Nov 29, 2012
That's like claiming that a photographic image in a newspaper exists "inside" each dot making up the newsprint.
Thoughts exist as *patterns* of neuronic activity. So they are not "smaller" than atoms (quite the contrary, since neuronic patterns involve countless atoms).
nanoanomaly wrote:
It is not and you know it.
What is "it"?
nanoanomaly wrote:
Thoughts travel through the brain
No,*signals* travel through the brain. Thoughts include patterns of signals. But the thoughts themselves don't "travel".

Since: Feb 08

Tampa, FL

#65328 Nov 29, 2012
postscript wrote:
Both fail to support the silly notion that life springs from dead matter.
Of course life springs from dead matter. The individual molecules in your body are not alive. They are "dead matter". But you are alive. Therefore, your life springs from dead matter.
postscript wrote:
And yet, science has not produced a single shred of evidence to support the fairy tale that life comes from non-life
On the contrary, it has:

http://pandasthumb.org/archives/2008/07/what-...

Since: Feb 08

Tampa, FL

#65329 Nov 29, 2012
Science's theories *do* stand on their own merit, as they are supported by evidence.
So what do you mean by "responding negatively"? Refuting your baseless claims?
postscript wrote:
Refute or deny?
Both, since a refutation is a type of denial.

Now, I ask you again, since you avoided my question the first time: What do you mean by "responding negatively"? Refuting your baseless claims?

“It's all about the struggle”

Since: Jun 10

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#65330 Nov 29, 2012
Drew Smith wrote:
<quoted text>
Science does not claim "truth".....
No?

" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Empirical" ;

Since: Feb 08

Tampa, FL

#65331 Nov 29, 2012
Science does not claim "truth"
nanoanomaly wrote:
The word "science" didn't appear in that article.

Apparently you missed that.
postscript

Santa Fe, NM

#65332 Nov 29, 2012
Drew Smith wrote:
The Earth was once incapable of supporting life.
Later, the Earth was capable of supporting life and in fact did support life.
Therefore, life on Earth came from non-life.
<quoted text>
If life did not come from non-life, then where did it come from? Magic?
Consciousness. Everything that is was first thought.

“It's all about the struggle”

Since: Jun 10

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#65333 Nov 29, 2012
Drew Smith wrote:
Science does not claim "truth"
<quoted text>
The word "science" didn't appear in that article.
Apparently you missed that.
No?

" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_metho... ;

Don't be such a boor, Drew.

Since: Feb 08

Tampa, FL

#65334 Nov 29, 2012
If life did not come from non-life, then where did it come from? Magic?
postscript wrote:
Consciousness. Everything that is was first thought.
What is the evidence that non-living matter is conscious?

Since: Feb 08

Tampa, FL

#65335 Nov 29, 2012
The word "science" didn't appear in that article. Apparently you missed that.
nanoanomaly wrote:
No?
No, it didn't. Funny how you failed to admit your error, eh?

Now, since a scientific theory must be falsifiable in order to be considered science (as your second link pointed out in the discussion about Popper), then tell us how science can claim "truth".

This should prove interesting.

Since: May 10

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#65336 Nov 29, 2012
Drew Smith wrote:
<quoted text>
Science does not claim "truth". Religion does.
...How brilliant.

November 11, 2012 9:23 AM

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#65337 Nov 29, 2012
Drew Smith wrote:
The word "science" didn't appear in that article. Apparently you missed that.
<quoted text>
No, it didn't. Funny how you failed to admit your error, eh?
Now, since a scientific theory must be falsifiable in order to be considered science (as your second link pointed out in the discussion about Popper), then tell us how science can claim "truth".
This should prove interesting.
You are confused.

The requirement for a theory to be "falsifiable" does not require that it can be "falsified". Falsifiability is simply being susceptible to being proven false if it is, in fact, false. To say that a theory is falsifiable is NOT in conflict with using it as a claim to truth.

Hope this helps you.

“It's all about the struggle”

Since: Jun 10

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#65338 Nov 29, 2012
Drew Smith wrote:
The word "science" didn't appear in that article. Apparently you missed that.
<quoted text>
No, it didn't. Funny how you failed to admit your error, eh?
Now, since a scientific theory must be falsifiable in order to be considered science (as your second link pointed out in the discussion about Popper), then tell us how science can claim "truth".
This should prove interesting.
What error? The one where science DOESN'T rely on "empirical evidence"? You're still being boorish. You know why I posted the empirical evidence link. This is what you do instead of providing proof? Over and over again? Really? You are pathetic, Drew.

“It's all about the struggle”

Since: Jun 10

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#65339 Nov 29, 2012
Drew Smith wrote:
The word "science" didn't appear in that article. Apparently you missed that.
<quoted text>
No, it didn't. Funny how you failed to admit your error, eh?
Now, since a scientific theory must be falsifiable in order to be considered science (as your second link pointed out in the discussion about Popper), then tell us how science can claim "truth".
This should prove interesting.
If a theory is testable/falsifiable/provable with repeatedly verified results then it is true/truth. If the results can't be repeated then it is not truth/real. Reality is truth.

“There is no such thing”

Since: May 08

as a reasonable person

#65340 Nov 29, 2012
KittenKoder wrote:
<quoted text>
It takes hundreds of neurons just for the concept of the number 1. There is a huge, massive, and elaborate way in which the brain processes just the number 1. Just thinking "1" requires the firing of hundreds of neurons. Counting 1 thing requires thousands of neurons.
Whoosh.
right over yer head.

“There is no such thing”

Since: May 08

as a reasonable person

#65341 Nov 29, 2012
Drew Smith wrote:
Science does not claim "truth"
<quoted text>
The word "science" didn't appear in that article.
Apparently you missed that.
If science doesn't claim truth then what does it claim.. according to you?

“It's all about the struggle”

Since: Jun 10

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#65342 Nov 30, 2012
Drew Smith wrote:
And from non-life. Otherwise, the first living thing wouldn't have existed.
<quoted text>
The Earth was once incapable of supporting life.
Later, the Earth was capable of supporting life and in fact did support life.
Therefore, life on Earth came from non-life.
As usual,

http://www.dailygalaxy.com/my_weblog/2012/11/...

...I see "if, might, could, and presumably" describing someone's currently, untested mathematical model describing how they think life "may" have come from nonliving matter. It lacks snap, crackle and pop. Oh yeah, and fizz.
xD

Since: Jun 07

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#65343 Nov 30, 2012
Buck Crick wrote:
<quoted text>
You are confused.
The requirement for a theory to be "falsifiable" does not require that it can be "falsified". Falsifiability is simply being susceptible to being proven false if it is, in fact, false. To say that a theory is falsifiable is NOT in conflict with using it as a claim to truth.
Hope this helps you.
F off you neocon creationist pig liar.

Since: Jun 07

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#65344 Nov 30, 2012
Lil Ticked wrote:
<quoted text>If science doesn't claim truth then what does it claim.. according to you?
Science claims that religious idiots need to prove the gods they claim exist otherwise years liars.

That's how science works, it tries to get closer to how e work actually works. Your using a computer today that shows just how effective science is.

And in return you have zero evidence for god...and counting...

That's how f*cked up your anti science arguments are. Well what can we expect from a wilfully ignorant creationist?

Since: Jun 07

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#65345 Nov 30, 2012
nanoanomaly wrote:
<quoted text>If a theory is testable/falsifiable/provable with repeatedly verified results then it is true/truth. If the results can't be repeated then it is not truth/real. Reality is truth.
That's why your god isn't real. So you do understand.
postscript

Santa Fe, NM

#65346 Nov 30, 2012
Drew Smith wrote:
<quoted text>
What is the evidence that non-living matter is conscious?
Science can't disprove that consciousness creates form. That's the evidence.

"For the scientist who has lived by his faith in the power of reason, the story ends like a bad dream. He has scaled the mountains of ignorance and he is about to conquer the highest peak. As he pulls himself over the final rock, he is greeted by a band of theologians who have been sitting there for centuries." - Robert Jastrow, Former Director of the Goddard Institute for Space Studies

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