Atheists on the march in America

Atheists on the march in America

There are 70652 comments on the TurkishPress.com story from Aug 26, 2009, titled Atheists on the march in America. In it, TurkishPress.com reports that:

When South Florida atheists held their first meeting, they were just five friends, having a beer at a bar.

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Since: Mar 11

United States

#65399 Dec 1, 2012
I often wonder if these mouth breathing retards are really this ignorant or are they being purposely obtuse?
Rose_NoHo wrote:
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Life wasn't always here, now it's here. So, it had to come from non living matter. And there is plenty of evidence to support evolution.
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And you know this...how?

Since: Mar 11

Louisville, KY

#65400 Dec 1, 2012
So you are using the Christian apologetic favorite argument of, if you don't believe in God why you always errr duh talking about him? Couple that with your attempts to divide non believers another apologetic favorite.

Sigh

You're not still pretending to be an agnostic right? Because that would just be wacky if you were miss I have an incurable disease but it just got cured.
nanoanomaly wrote:
<quoted text>I didn't notice God in my posts. BTW, why are you so afraid of something that you believe is not real? Why is it all you ever *talk* about?

Since: Mar 11

United States

#65401 Dec 1, 2012
The fossil record is solid and even if it weren't modern generic testing more than proves evolution.

Your sad apologetic creationist bat argument is going on 5 years disproven soundly.

http://m.guardiannews.com/science/2008/feb/13...
Independent wrote:
<quoted text>The fossil record is littered in gaps and "lost" and missing pieces. Just for starters, where are all the pre existing evolutionary fossils for insects? Insects discovered in sap and supposedly millions of yrs old look exactly as they do today, exactly. Also bats, where are the relatives of bats? or any pre fossils of them?
Independent

Alice, TX

#65402 Dec 1, 2012
Givemeliberty wrote:
The fossil record is solid and even if it weren't modern generic testing more than proves evolution.
Your sad apologetic creationist bat argument is going on 5 years disproven soundly.
http://m.guardiannews.com/science/2008/feb/13...
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I have seen this in the past, looks like just another extinct bat to me, no developing wings, or feet. Just another extinct bat.
Independent

Alice, TX

#65403 Dec 1, 2012
Independent wrote:
<quoted text>I have seen this in the past, looks like just another extinct bat to me, no developing wings, or feet. Just another extinct bat.
http://www.darwinismrefuted.co m/natural_history_2_13.html
Independent

Alice, TX

#65404 Dec 1, 2012

Since: Jul 09

Location hidden

#65405 Dec 1, 2012
Wrathbone wrote:
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Which in no way implies that just because science cannot detect something, that it cannot exist.
that which acts empirically in out shared reality leaves evidence, you god does not, the inference is that he does not exist.

Since: Jul 09

Location hidden

#65406 Dec 1, 2012
KittenKoder wrote:
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Atoms organize themselves based on their properties, they aren't doing it with intelligence or will, they react how they do all the time, whether in a living organism or in any other environment. Atoms are not alive, are they? If so, then the rocks that are made up of the same atoms we are live as well. Are rocks alive?
nor do they organize "randomly"

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#65407 Dec 1, 2012
postscript wrote:
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There are indeed. They perceive their own reality.
Consciousness is fully capable of energizing, organizing and communicating with matter, including the brain, the body, and other material things. If scientists actually understood the dynamics of being for example, the mind/body relationship, illness would not be seen as a foreign agent thrust upon us.
So ... you think atoms are alive? Wow.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#65408 Dec 1, 2012
karl44 wrote:
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nor do they organize "randomly"
No such thing as random, we perceive randomness because we lack the complex computations required to identify the patterns in everything, our computers do that better now. But atomic reactions, chemical reactions, are structured based on the atomic structures, that's not even close to conscious reaction, it's the same as what happens when you drop a ball.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#65409 Dec 1, 2012
postscript wrote:
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The missing link is not exactly a needle in a haystack. If science is going to claim that man emerged from primates, the fossil evidence should prove it, but it doesn't.
Actually, it was the fossil record that gave us that idea in the first place. You should see the fossils, no really, you should actually look at the fossils before you attempt this fallacy again.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#65410 Dec 1, 2012
Independent wrote:
<quoted text>I have seen this in the past, looks like just another extinct bat to me, no developing wings, or feet. Just another extinct bat.
Way to not read the real article and instead run with the creatard assertions. Yeah, that's intelligence. You never did evolve, you're still a chimp.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#65411 Dec 1, 2012
Independent wrote:
<quoted text>The fossil record is littered in gaps and "lost" and missing pieces. Just for starters, where are all the pre existing evolutionary fossils for insects? Insects discovered in sap and supposedly millions of yrs old look exactly as they do today, exactly. Also bats, where are the relatives of bats? or any pre fossils of them?
Erm, what? Insects several hundred million years ago were huge. Imagine a dragonfly that could eat you, and that looks the same as they do today?
postscript

Santa Fe, NM

#65412 Dec 2, 2012
KittenKoder wrote:
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Actually, it was the fossil record that gave us that idea in the first place. You should see the fossils, no really, you should actually look at the fossils before you attempt this fallacy again.
Missing links in the sequence of fossil evidence was a concern to Darwin himself! But instead of giving the matter serious thought, he kicked that can down the road, convinced that the necessary fossils to prove his theory would eventually turn up, but alas, they are still missing.

The fossil record that does exist, the one you point to with exuberant pride, is shamefully paltry compared to what should be a vast trove of fossilized evidence if the theory of evolution were actually true.

Without literally going back in time and watching the development of each successive organism in an evolutionary chain, science can not "prove" that an evolutionary relationship exists. You can claim that minor variations in species produced all the vast differences we see today, but you are still left without a fossil record. Without that record, scientists will never be sure some organism (transitional form) is actually an ancestor of an existing species.

Since: Nov 12

Location hidden

#65413 Dec 2, 2012
Photo on the left is a 125 million year old fossil of a mayfly.
Photo on the right is the mayfly as it exists today. They are identical. No change, and this is just one of many examples. Here's the proof right before your eyes that the theory of evolution is a myth!

http://www.harunyahya.com/image/Atlas_of_crea...

Since: Feb 08

Tampa, FL

#65414 Dec 2, 2012
That consciousness can create form does not allow us to conclude that whatever creates form is conscious.
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How does anything in that definition tell us that whatever creates form is conscious?
postscript wrote:
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The word "aware" should be your first clue.
How do you conclude that whatever creates form must be "aware"?

Since: Feb 08

Tampa, FL

#65415 Dec 2, 2012
Independent wrote:
She was able to outwit and out muscle two men, enough proof to me that God takes care of his own.
If God takes care of his own, then why do so many innocent children die horrible deaths?

Since: Feb 08

Tampa, FL

#65416 Dec 2, 2012
I notice that you've provided no alternative scientific theory as to where life came from, if not from non-life. Why is that?
nanoanomaly wrote:
And you still can't prove what the catalyst was that created life from non-life.
Why would it need a "catalyst"? Do you mean the fact that molecules on a sterile Earth would be constantly altered and mixed together by natural forces, such as gravity, heat from the Sun, heat from the internals of the Earth, impacts from icy comets, water currents, lightning, and so forth?

Now, I ask you again: What is your alternative scientific theory as to where life came from?

Since: Feb 08

Tampa, FL

#65417 Dec 2, 2012
Independent wrote:
Look, I can't explain why things happen as they do.
If you can't explain why things happen as they do, then why do you attribute some of those things to a "god", and why do you fail to attribute other of those things to the same "god"? It sounds as if you only attribute good things to your "god" but fail to blame him for the bad things. Isn't that rather one-sided?

Since: Feb 08

Tampa, FL

#65418 Dec 2, 2012
Independent wrote:
where are all the pre existing evolutionary fossils for insects?
Why would you expect insects to fossilize?
Independent wrote:
Insects discovered in sap and supposedly millions of yrs old look exactly as they do today, exactly.
Who says that they look "exactly" as they do today?
Independent wrote:
Also bats, where are the relatives of bats? or any pre fossils of them?
I guess you missed this from 8 years ago:

http://www.sciscoop.com/2004-11-11-82718-510....

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