Moms make case for gun control

Moms make case for gun control

There are 9248 comments on the usatoday.com story from Mar 16, 2013, titled Moms make case for gun control. In it, usatoday.com reports that:

Peg Paulson had never beaten a path through the halls of Congress before or met a U.S. senator's staffer or advocated for a controversial issue.

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huntcoyotes

“gun control takes two hands”

Since: Mar 13

outdoors

#4711 Jul 16, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
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You're the one with spooge stains on your shirt, BOY.
How much longer are you going to be mooching off your mother?
What's wrong, greggy- uncle catch you with the Sports Illustrated swisuit issue again?

huntcoyotes

“gun control takes two hands”

Since: Mar 13

outdoors

#4712 Jul 16, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
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I know you aren't able to hold two thoughts in your head at once, Boy: I cannot always write to the lowest common denominator.
Have your mother explain this to you next time you go over for another check.
Awww greggy, your only two thoughts revolve around when your welfare check is deposited and where your uncle hides the SI swimsuit issue.
Angered American

Rochester, MN

#4713 Jul 16, 2013
huntcoyotes wrote:
<quoted text>Awww greggy, your only two thoughts revolve around when your welfare check is deposited and where your uncle hides the SI swimsuit issue.
Most likely he is out Maxing out his EBT card before the riots come

Since: Feb 11

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#4714 Jul 16, 2013
huntcoyotes wrote:
<quoted text>What's wrong, greggy- uncle catch you with the Sports Illustrated swisuit issue again?
I know you prefer Boys Life.

Since: Feb 11

Location hidden

#4715 Jul 16, 2013
huntcoyotes wrote:
<quoted text>Awww greggy, your only two thoughts
Wit is not your strong suit, Colonbreath.

Time to change the alias again.
bvnm

Pittsburgh, PA

#4716 Jul 17, 2013
youtube.com/watch...
Late and Lucky
Marauder

Anchorage, AK

#4717 Jul 17, 2013
spocko wrote:
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In 2005, with the SYG (stand your ground law) the Florida Legislature fundamentally changed the analysis used by juries to assign blame in these cases. When the legislature passed the SYG law it changed the rules of engagement. It eliminated the duty to avoid the danger and it eliminated any duty to retreat.
If the Trayvon Martin killing was tried prior to the Stand Your Ground law being passed, the jury would have been told that self-defense was not available to Zimmerman unless he had used every reasonable means to avoid the danger. The jury would have been told that even if they believed Zimmerman had been attacked wrongfully by Trayvon, he could not use deadly force if he could have safely retreated or run away.
Here is the actual provision (jury instruction) read to Florida juries prior to the legislature's enactment of Stand Your Ground.
"The defendant cannot justify the use of force likely to cause death or great bodily harm unless he used every reasonable means within his power and consistent with his own safety to avoid the danger before resorting to that force. The fact that the defendant was wrongfully attacked cannot justify his use of force likely to cause death or great bodily harm if by retreating he could have avoided the need to use that force."
The same provision after SYG enacted by the Florida Legislature in 2005 changed to:
A person who is not engaged in an unlawful activity and who is attacked in any other place where he or she has a right to be has no duty to retreat and has the right to stand his or her ground and meet force with force, including deadly force if he or she reasonably believes it is necessary to do so to prevent death or great bodily harm to himself or herself or another or to prevent the commission of a forcible felony.
Where is your source from the court that Zimmerman's trial was a SYG case...?
Marauder

Anchorage, AK

#4718 Jul 17, 2013
spocko wrote:
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In 2005, with the SYG (stand your ground law) the Florida Legislature fundamentally changed the analysis used by juries to assign blame in these cases. When the legislature passed the SYG law it changed the rules of engagement. It eliminated the duty to avoid the danger and it eliminated any duty to retreat.
If the Trayvon Martin killing was tried prior to the Stand Your Ground law being passed, the jury would have been told that self-defense was not available to Zimmerman unless he had used every reasonable means to avoid the danger. The jury would have been told that even if they believed Zimmerman had been attacked wrongfully by Trayvon, he could not use deadly force if he could have safely retreated or run away.
Here is the actual provision (jury instruction) read to Florida juries prior to the legislature's enactment of Stand Your Ground.
"The defendant cannot justify the use of force likely to cause death or great bodily harm unless he used every reasonable means within his power and consistent with his own safety to avoid the danger before resorting to that force. The fact that the defendant was wrongfully attacked cannot justify his use of force likely to cause death or great bodily harm if by retreating he could have avoided the need to use that force."
The same provision after SYG enacted by the Florida Legislature in 2005 changed to:
A person who is not engaged in an unlawful activity and who is attacked in any other place where he or she has a right to be has no duty to retreat and has the right to stand his or her ground and meet force with force, including deadly force if he or she reasonably believes it is necessary to do so to prevent death or great bodily harm to himself or herself or another or to prevent the commission of a forcible felony.
BTW...it reads just fine...I don't see anything wrong with the way it is worded...do you...?

“Si vis pacem, para bellum !!”

Since: Dec 07

Southeast Virginia

#4719 Jul 17, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
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Been waiting a LOOOONG time for you to provide a single shred of proof that this boy ever even tried to assault your pedophile.
Photographic proof and an eye witness has already been presented in the trial, dumbass, with NO EVIDENCE to the contrary. Try again, ball-peen.

Are you REALLY that f-ing stupid??? Oh wait....yeah, you are. Just like YOUR claim that the confrontation took place IN FRONT OF Brandy Greene's townhouse when it was admitted in the trial that they were 348 feet (roughly the length of a football field with the endzones) from HER house and BEHIND the row of townhouses.

Come back when you can actually back up ANYTHING you post here.
Marauder

Anchorage, AK

#4720 Jul 17, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
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Been waiting a LOOOONG time for you to provide a single shred of proof that this boy ever even tried to assault your pedophile.
Try holding your breath. The six people that it mattered to were already convinced...you're irrelevant, remember.

huntcoyotes

“gun control takes two hands”

Since: Mar 13

outdoors

#4721 Jul 17, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
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I know you prefer Boys Life.
Aw, greggy, you looked over at your nightstand with the stack of magazines, kleenex and hand lotion and thought of me- how disgusting.
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#4723 Jul 17, 2013
Marauder wrote:
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Where is your source from the court that Zimmerman's trial was a SYG case...?
Reading comprehension- not your strong suite.

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#4724 Jul 17, 2013
Armed Veteran wrote:
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Photographic proof and an eye witness has already been presented in the trial, dumbass
Hasn't dumbphuque. The "eye witness" conceded he didn't know who was screaming and the prosecution proved his original it was IMPOSSIBLE since he was unable to prove he had the ability to see through walls.

There is no doubt- and never was- that Martin had the right to be EXACTLY where he was at and not to be harassed by this pill-popping cop wannabe pedophile.

Since: Feb 11

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#4725 Jul 17, 2013
huntcoyotes wrote:
<quoted text>Aw, greggy, you looked over at your nightstand with the stack of magazines
You're the one collecting Boys Life, spooge breath.

'bout time for you to come in and replace the ankle bracelet battery.

Let us know when you settle on one alias.

“Si vis pacem, para bellum !!”

Since: Dec 07

Southeast Virginia

#4726 Jul 17, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
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Hasn't dumbphuque. The "eye witness" conceded he didn't know who was screaming and the prosecution proved his original it was IMPOSSIBLE since he was unable to prove he had the ability to see through walls.
There is no doubt- and never was- that Martin had the right to be EXACTLY where he was at and not to be harassed by this pill-popping cop wannabe pedophile.
HAS, dumbphuque. John Good testified that it was the darker skinned person straddling the lighter skinned person on the bottom. He also said that he could the person on top swing his arms down, but couldn't see if they were actually hitting the person on the bottom. You need to go back and listen to the court case, moron.

As far as who was screaming, why didn't the prosecution call Tracy Martin to the stand??? Of course his mom and brother are going to say it was Taryvon yelling for help. So why not call Dad who would obvious say the same thing? Oh....that's right. Because his dad initially said that it was NOT his son screaming for help. He changed his mond later when he realized he screwed up his son's case. Oops...too late.

Since: Feb 11

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#4727 Jul 17, 2013
Armed Veteran wrote:
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HAS, dumbphuque. John Good testified that it was the darker skinned person straddling the lighter skinned person on the bottom.
I go on the whole testimony, not selected parts I like.

He swore that he could see who was hollering when the boy was killed and it turned out he was fibbing.

You don't know who started the confrontation but you do know that Martin was on the sidewalk in front of his house and you do know the pedophile was in front of his truck when he was told to wait for the cops who were on the way.

And most of us know exactly what kind of polished turd the pedophile cop wannabe someone he ain't is- you see one in the mirror every morning.
Tray

Oxford, MS

#4728 Jul 17, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
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Hasn't dumbphuque. The "eye witness" conceded he didn't know who was screaming and the prosecution proved his original it was IMPOSSIBLE since he was unable to prove he had the ability to see through walls.
There is no doubt- and never was- that Martin had the right to be EXACTLY where he was at and not to be harassed by this pill-popping cop wannabe pedophile.
Explain how he had a right on someone elses private property. How many fights have you PERSONALLY seen where the one on top is the one yelling for help. No where do you address any right to attack someone (which he didn't have) much less someone who REALLY did have a right to be there.

Since: Feb 11

Location hidden

#4729 Jul 17, 2013
Tray wrote:
Explain how he had a right on someone elses private property.
The pedophile was on someone else's property.
12 posts removed
Angered American

Rochester, MN

#4742 Jul 17, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
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The pedophile was on someone else's property.
Just like when you got shot also?
Marauder

Palmer, AK

#4743 Jul 17, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
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Reading comprehension- not your strong suite.
We know it isn't yours when YOU post a quote of law and then tell us it says something different than it does...you're an idiot.

So you can't answer the question either huh...?

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