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Optimism of whites in US lags blacks by big margin

There are 2745 comments on the Log Cabin Democrat story from Aug 1, 2013, titled Optimism of whites in US lags blacks by big margin. In it, Log Cabin Democrat reports that:

Americans' attitudes about their economic future are sharply divided by race, with whites significantly less likely than blacks or Hispanics to think they can improve their own standard of living.

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Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#657 Aug 5, 2013
Dr-Sniper wrote:
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But why is there a greater percentage of blacks living below the poverty level? Why don't they take advantage of the education opportunities available just to them, and the ones available to minorities? Education leads to prosperity.
why doesn't anyone of any race take advantage of those? if you could answer that, you would have the answer to solving poverty

poor people disproportionally miss taking advantage of benefits available to them, tax deductions rebates, etc...it has to do with the lack of education. kind of a vicious cycle, huh?

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#658 Aug 5, 2013
Dr-Sniper wrote:
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You keep talking in circles hoping no one catches up to you. You've been caught! We know about poverty. You still have yet to explain why blacks stay in poverty despite all the help for Affirmative Action, Executive Orders, and Government Handouts. Your only response is whites do it to. But when cornered with the statistics showing blacks(13% of US) are 6 times more likely to be on Welfare, commit violent crime, or go to prison, than whites(72% of US), you start the circle all over again.
Try answering the questions! If its been proven, post the source proving it! All you do is accuse everyone you don't agree with of being a racist. That's not going to get you out of this one! Post the prove you state has been around for so long!
if you really want the answer to your question, look up the percentage of poor white people involvede in violent crime and the percentage of poor white people that stay in poverty and on welfare...

you will find they are the same percentages. race does not matter in that regard.

Since: Dec 12

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#659 Aug 5, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
<quoted text>EVERYONE on here comprehend what you're posting.

You're claiming race is a factor in determining whether someone will be on welfare or in prison or on drug or be a single mother.

Yes, we ALL comprehend that you're a racist.
I'm not trying to claim, I have repeatedly posted statistical proof. You just refuse to acknowledge it, because it doesn't fit your politically correct agenda.
Again you are like a broken record, because most people run when you accuse them of being a racist. All you can do is repeat yourself with me, because I don't run from the race card.

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#660 Aug 5, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
<quoted text>No, it just proves you don't understand the statistical evidence you are posting.

Yes, you are a racist when you attempt to interpret the statistical evidence to claim it shows race is a factor, rather than a statistical anomaly.

Yes Virginia, it DOES make you a racist.
I understand the statistical evidence perfectly. You just try to circle around that evidence to maintain your intentional ignorance.
CV Compton Shaw

Renton, WA

#661 Aug 5, 2013
“ALL ANIMALS ARE EQUAL
BUT SOME ANIMALS ARE MORE EQUAL THAN OTHERS.” From George Orwell’s “Animal Farm”.

The USA is an increasingly Orwellian, authoritarian, and Machiavellian culture, society, and body politic.
Aristotle stated in his book, "Politics", that a democratic form of government without stringent "republican" (equal rights and equal responsibilities for all citizens) was merely a dictatorship of the electoral majority with this electoral majority (minorities and women in the USA) granting itself privileges while discriminating against the electoral minority ( Caucasian men and some Asians in the USA) by giving them more responsibilities and fewer rights.
The USA changed from a republic to a democracy in the revolutionary period of the late 1960's and early 1970's. The aforementioned systemic discrimination against Caucasians, especially Caucasian men, and some Asian groups is the main reason why the optimism of Caucasians lags that of Blacks and other minority groups.

"No question now, what had happened to the faces of the pigs. The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which."
- George Orwell, Animal Farm, Ch. 10

Since: Dec 12

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#662 Aug 5, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
<quoted text>Because blacks are 6 times more likely to be poor than whites- DUH!!!

Income determines whether you qualify for welfare, and a greater percentage of blacks live in poverty than whites.

Either you're EXTREMELY STUPID that you don't understand that directly accounts for the overrepresentation in welfare statistics

Or you're such an EXTREME RACIST that you are unable to recognize that simple fact.

So which is it?

Are you EXTREMELY STUPID?
Or are you and EXTREME RACIST?
Yes you keep posting that, but refuse to post why. Why? You are talking around the point once again.
With Affirmative Action, Executive Orders on African American Education, Government Housing, Food Stamps... Why don't they get an education, then a job, and support themselves?

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#663 Aug 5, 2013
CV Compton Shaw wrote:
“ALL ANIMALS ARE EQUAL
BUT SOME ANIMALS ARE MORE EQUAL THAN OTHERS.” From George Orwell’s “Animal Farm”.
The USA is an increasingly Orwellian, authoritarian, and Machiavellian culture, society, and body politic.
Aristotle stated in his book, "Politics", that a democratic form of government without stringent "republican" (equal rights and equal responsibilities for all citizens) was merely a dictatorship of the electoral majority with this electoral majority (minorities and women in the USA) granting itself privileges while discriminating against the electoral minority ( Caucasian men and some Asians in the USA) by giving them more responsibilities and fewer rights.
The USA changed from a republic to a democracy in the revolutionary period of the late 1960's and early 1970's. The aforementioned systemic discrimination against Caucasians, especially Caucasian men, and some Asian groups is the main reason why the optimism of Caucasians lags that of Blacks and other minority groups.
"No question now, what had happened to the faces of the pigs. The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which."
- George Orwell, Animal Farm, Ch. 10
wow! what a load of horsehit that was.

want a napkin to wipe you lips from whence it came?
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#666 Aug 5, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
<quoted text>The continue funding of public schools based on property tax districts.

Laws which ban minorities from attending better white schools because they don't live in that school district.

All courses and testing methodology created by and developed with white people in mind, failing to account for different cultural factors which become a barrier to learning for minorities.

Those are just a few example of special treatment which promotes education for whites.
BS.
Why are the white schools better?
What about bussing of black students to other schools? It happens here all the time.
What about the voucher system?
You are just making excuses!

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#667 Aug 5, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
<quoted text>Wow, even for a RACIST you've REALLY outdone yourself with that post!

I mean, WOW!!
Yeah? Then answer it. You make such a big deal, because you obviously do not know the answer!

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#668 Aug 5, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
<quoted text>Nope, only in your racist mind has Affirmative Action been proven to be reverse discrimination.
Lmao! You just proved how closed your mind is by posting that.

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#669 Aug 5, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>why doesn't anyone of any race take advantage of those? if you could answer that, you would have the answer to solving poverty

poor people disproportionally miss taking advantage of benefits available to them, tax deductions rebates, etc...it has to do with the lack of education. kind of a vicious cycle, huh?
You can not be that stupid! What part of "education opportunities available ONLY to them"? As in Obama's Executive Order on African American Education. What part of "and those for minorities" don't you understand?
Whites can not benefit from those Sherlock!
And there you go circling back to lack of education. Priceless!

Since: Dec 12

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#670 Aug 5, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>if you really want the answer to your question, look up the percentage of poor white people involvede in violent crime and the percentage of poor white people that stay in poverty and on welfare...

you will find they are the same percentages. race does not matter in that regard.
But poor white people don't have Executive orders to benefit and further their education. Poor white people do not have Affirmative Action to set aside spots in school, grade college entrance exam more favorably via a different formula, set aside seats in college, set aside positions for jobs...

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#671 Aug 5, 2013
Dr-Sniper wrote:
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But poor white people don't have Executive orders to benefit and further their education. Poor white people do not have Affirmative Action to set aside spots in school, grade college entrance exam more favorably via a different formula, set aside seats in college, set aside positions for jobs...
in fact, we have many programs to help poor people of any race achieve education, get in good schools, etc.

real world, sniper, real world...

your biased view of the facts do not fit the real world outside your window.

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#672 Aug 5, 2013
Dr-Sniper wrote:
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You can not be that stupid! What part of "education opportunities available ONLY to them"? As in Obama's Executive Order on African American Education. What part of "and those for minorities" don't you understand?
Whites can not benefit from those Sherlock!
And there you go circling back to lack of education. Priceless!
see previous post for real world facts your closed mind cannot see.

wouldnt it be nice if you could actually talk about the real facts available to all who are not blinded by their preconceptions?

you might almost become human!
playa hata

Mesa, AZ

#673 Aug 5, 2013
Screw america.

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#674 Aug 5, 2013
playa hata wrote:
Screw america.
no one's stopping you from leaving...

Since: Oct 10

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#675 Aug 5, 2013
Whitey white white wrote:
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Who's repsonsibility is it to instill the value of eductaion in children in children? Primarily the parents. Are you saying that the parents don't realize the importance of education? No, they are simply irresponsble and negligent. This not the result of some tragic past. African American performance in school is declining. Thats a new development.
"Although the aforementioned is for all Americans, statistics for African Americans is even worse. A new study released by Seattle Public Schools revealed that African American students whose primary language is English, perform significantly worse in math and reading than black African immigrant students who speak another language at home. Findings of the Seattle study indicate that only 36 percent of black students who speak English at home passed their grade’s math test, while 47 percent of Somali-speaking students passed. Other black ethnic groups did even better. In reading, 56 percent of black students who speak English passed, while 67 percent of Somali-speaking students passed with other black ethnic groups scoring higher again. However, still in concert black students scored lower than the district average of 78 percent for reading.
As it stands presently, the African American community is moving farther and further away from the traditions and values that maintained our collective integrity — specifically the value and importance we attributed to reading and education."
You can sit back and make the same old tired excuses. But your people are in a demise socially and economically. And if you fail take action it will only get worse.
Excuses???? YOU JUST PROVED MY POINT!!!! Africans come here and do exceptionally well, but African Americans who have been held in enslavement and endured another 100yrs of Jim Crow don't have the same outlook on education as other people. That is the bottom line. Kids in the inner city who are born to parents who were raised in the hood, and their parents were raised in the hood, and are the direct descendants of blacks who were punished and sometimes killed for learning to read, despise education. Genetics are funny, but whether you believe it or not, this is the underline cause of it all. Slavery may be over, but it stills lives in the genes of many African Americans. If not, then why are Africans so successful when they come here and African Americans are lagging behind???

Like I told you in the earlier post, you expect a group that has been physically and mentally oppressed to suddenly figure it out. Those slaves who were released from slavery after being denied education and having the fear of death instilled in them in they so desired to be educated, passed these same ole teachings down to their offspring. And they in returned passed it on to their offspring, and so on and so on. It's a domino effect, and many whites are responsible for the current state of black Americans. If you wanna be a part of the solution, stop bytching and complaining and help these people. But you won't. You would rather sit up here with your 'holier than thou' attitude and act as though whites would have been any different had the roles been reversed.

Africans who come here and succeed do so because they are not damaged like too many African American people here in the states are. That's just my take on it.

Since: Oct 10

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#676 Aug 5, 2013
Retired SOF wrote:
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Are you still living in the 1950's? Times have changed, catch up!!
Oh, I'm caught up. But tell you what, when those 20 million to 50 million whites who are living today give back all those goodies that the 30's and 40's provided their families, then I'll stop mentioning 'WHITE PRIVILEGE'. Funny, you don't tell whites anything about complaining about affirmative action, which is a direct response to white privilege, but you wanna tell me something about mentioning white privilege. Telling me to catch up is like giving Chris Johnson (TITANS) a 40 yard head start, and complaining to me about not being able to catch him. Are you insane???

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#677 Aug 5, 2013
ladondaruler1 wrote:
<quoted text> Excuses???? YOU JUST PROVED MY POINT!!!! Africans come here and do exceptionally well, but African Americans who have been held in enslavement and endured another 100yrs of Jim Crow don't have the same outlook on education as other people. That is the bottom line. Kids in the inner city who are born to parents who were raised in the hood, and their parents were raised in the hood, and are the direct descendants of blacks who were punished and sometimes killed for learning to read, despise education. Genetics are funny, but whether you believe it or not, this is the underline cause of it all. Slavery may be over, but it stills lives in the genes of many African Americans. If not, then why are Africans so successful when they come here and African Americans are lagging behind???
Like I told you in the earlier post, you expect a group that has been physically and mentally oppressed to suddenly figure it out. Those slaves who were released from slavery after being denied education and having the fear of death instilled in them in they so desired to be educated, passed these same ole teachings down to their offspring. And they in returned passed it on to their offspring, and so on and so on. It's a domino effect, and many whites are responsible for the current state of black Americans. If you wanna be a part of the solution, stop bytching and complaining and help these people. But you won't. You would rather sit up here with your 'holier than thou' attitude and act as though whites would have been any different had the roles been reversed.
Africans who come here and succeed do so because they are not damaged like too many African American people here in the states are. That's just my take on it.
those ideas you talk about are not genetic in any way, shape or form. the memory of slavery is not genetically ingrained in anyone.

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#678 Aug 5, 2013
Dr-Sniper wrote:
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There is no race war. Yet. There is a war on our constitution. There is a war on taxpayers. But no race war.
BTW, no hatred exploded from whites over the Trayvon Martin case. Zimmerman would never have been arrested if not for hatred from the black community. There would not have been a grand jury, or a trial, at taxpayer expense, if not for hatred from the black community. That case should have never gone to trial. Zimmerman being innocent until proven guilty, was the only provider of what happened. All eye witnesses had nothing to add that refuted his story. All the forensic evidence supported his account. There was no way to get a conviction. The whole thing was a waste of taxpayer funds.
OH BOY!!! First off, I'm self confident in myself, with or without meeting you. I believe I can out swim Michael Phelps. Sorry if that bothers you.

Whether you said blacks couldn't swim or asked why are there blacks in competitive swimming, I still answered you question. There aren't swimming pools in abundance in inner cities. Blacks, as do all people, tend to stick to what's affordable and most convenient for them. I'm quite sure there could be a vast amount of black swimmers, if we had more access to pools and ponds. The reason blacks are good at basketball is because we have access to b-ball courts. Plus you can pretty much rig up a basketball goal with a bucket and a pole or tree. How the hell can I rig up a swimming pool in the middle of an area with complete concrete?!?

And last but definitely not least. Sickle cell is again not anything directly related to biology. You really need to stop trying to insult me, when clearly you are unaware of what you are saying. Sickle cell is also directly related to our years of diet and climate, as opposed to other groups of people. That is the beauty of nature and evolution, the body adjusts and sometimes develop sicknesses or blood disorders due to long time exposure to certain regions. But let's not get it confused, whites do carry the sickle cell trait. Sickle cell trait occurs in approximately 1 in 12 African Americans; 1 in 1400 Hispanics, and nearly 1 in 100,000 Whites.

SO ONCE AGAIN BUDDY, YOU FAIL!!!! As I said before, I've done extensive research on the differences on race, and there are none. Biologically, there is no race. And these are not my words, but words of well renowned scientists across the globe.

Here's a thought: you and your brother can separate and never see each other again in life. Move to different parts of the planet and have children with different groups of people of your own racial group, who also migrated to different regions with you. Within 1000 years, your great great great great grandchildren will more than likely look and think differently than your brothers, despite never venturing outside of the circle of people that migrated with you all to different parts of the planet. That's the beauty of nature: same bloodline, same DNA, but look and think differently.

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