Ky. gay marriage ruling looks to precedents

Feb 13, 2014 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: WSFA-TV Montgomery

Greg Bourke, front, and his partner Michael Deleon speak to reporters following the announcement from U.S. LOUISVILLE, Ky.

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Yeah! Getting tied to a fence post and beaten to death doesn't count! Having beer bottles chucked at your head as you walk down the street doesn't count! Being set upon by a gang of men who leave you bloody on the sidewalk is hardly "persecution"!
REAL persecution is when Christians (and only Christians) are FORCED to be kind and decent to people they disagree with. What a horrible way to live!
In backwards land.
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Hey Queer, that's because it's NORMAL to see straight people doing these things, not normal for fagg@ts to be doing these things in public.
Well, it's about to BECOME normal. I'm certainly not about to allow some juvenile name-callers to frighten me indoors. In fact, the more you resist, the more we'll push back. Count on it.
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PS: try to shorten your replies, they're too long and boring. Just saying
Consider this my invitation to you not to read them. I couldn't care less if you're bored. I recommend Twitter if deep conversations are too hard for you.

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Persecute!! You have no idea what "persecute" is !!
Really?? I don't?? Do tell!

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Well, it's about to BECOME normal. I'm certainly not about to allow some juvenile name-callers to frighten me indoors. In fact, the more you resist, the more we'll push back. Count on it.
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Consider this my invitation to you not to read them. I couldn't care less if you're bored. I recommend Twitter if deep conversations are too hard for you.
Since we're off topic anyway ...

Have you ever seen "Morris Dancing". Most examples these days aren't very good, but what I want to mention about it is that it is one of several dance forms which have developed in human history in circumstances where the controlling powers were afraid of an armed peasantry ... so they learned how to hide fighting and weapons training inside seemingly innocuous activities.

Well, the youngsters appear to have rediscovered Morris Dancing and done something with it. Apart from being a social activity, it is great practice for translating stress-induced heart-pounding into a beat, then carrying that into extremely fast kneecapping, and crotch and gut kicks. Other forms emphasize arm blocks, leg blocks, dodges, recoveries, etc ... streetfighting in the guise of dance.

http://www.youtube.com/watch...

http://www.youtube.com/watch...

and the origin

http://www.youtube.com/watch...
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Fagg@t, homosexuality will NEVER be normal, no matter how much you want or wish it so. Maybe more common but it'll never be normal.[/QUOTE]

Not even more common than before. Always the same percentage of births. Year in. Year out.

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STOP wearing your sexuality on your sleeve ,STOP subverting the will of the voter and STOP trying to make your orientation a protected status.
Got it!

STAY in the closet and don't let people you exist. Lie if you have to.
STOP trying to marry the person you love and accept the fact that you are not equal too there's.
STOP trying to make your God given sexuality legal and allow people to discriminate against you since you are unworthy.

Shove it right up your ass along with your head.

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You can't win at the ballot box so you run to the courts before the ink is dry. I don't call that success!
No one cares what your bigoted ass thinks.
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Since we're off topic anyway ...
Have you ever seen "Morris Dancing". Most examples these days aren't very good, but what I want to mention about it is that it is one of several dance forms which have developed in human history in circumstances where the controlling powers were afraid of an armed peasantry ... so they learned how to hide fighting and weapons training inside seemingly innocuous activities.
Well, the youngsters appear to have rediscovered Morris Dancing and done something with it. Apart from being a social activity, it is great practice for translating stress-induced heart-pounding into a beat, then carrying that into extremely fast kneecapping, and crotch and gut kicks. Other forms emphasize arm blocks, leg blocks, dodges, recoveries, etc ... streetfighting in the guise of dance.
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
and the origin
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
I'm not really a "music" or "dance" kind of person. I didn't think I'd heard of Morris Dancing, until you started describing it, and something about it sounded familiar. I must've picked it up in a history lesson somewhere. People can be very creative under extreme circumstances. Makes me think of The Karate Kid, sandu floor, paintu fence, wax on, wax off.

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Your "RADICAL" stance will not help your case!! Good luck!!!
There is nothing remotely radical about calling for us to follow the US Constitution, which mandates equal protection of the laws be granted to all persons within a state's jurisdiction. Excluding people from such constitutionally guaranteed equal protection, as you regularly argue to do, is radical.
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Persecute!! You have no idea what "persecute" is !!
Well gee let's see. When I was fired from a job I held for three years because someone didn't like working with a gay guy that wasn't persecution?

When my house was spray painted with graffiti that was love?

When my partner and I got our first apartment together and we had to pay $50.00/month more for the same size apartment than unmarried heterosexuals, that was fair?

When I was jumped by 5 guys looking to "beat some fags" and hospitalized with 7 skull fractures, a broken jaw and nearly lost an eye, that wasn't nearly as bad as what you face on a day to day basis?

DO TELL.......

BTW in your lifetime how many laws were passed that denied you the right to marry or serve your country or donate blood?

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I'm not really a "music" or "dance" kind of person. I didn't think I'd heard of Morris Dancing, until you started describing it, and something about it sounded familiar. I must've picked it up in a history lesson somewhere. People can be very creative under extreme circumstances. Makes me think of The Karate Kid, sandu floor, paintu fence, wax on, wax off.
Indeed, indeed, Grasshopper.
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You continue to subvert the voters of states that don't agree with you. What you can't win at the ballot box, you take to court! Take your victories, WAIT a while, TALK to the people then TRY again! DON'T run to the courts even BEFORE the polling place as closed!
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This Constitution, and the laws of the United States which shall be made in pursuance thereof; and all treaties made, or which shall be made, under the authority of the United States, shall be the supreme law of the land; and the judges in every state shall be bound thereby, anything in the Constitution or laws of any State to the contrary notwithstanding.

Have someone read this and explain this article from the US Constitution to you.

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US Constitution
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This Constitution, and the laws of the United States which shall be made in pursuance thereof; and all treaties made, or which shall be made, under the authority of the United States, shall be the supreme law of the land; and the judges in every state shall be bound thereby, anything in the Constitution or laws of any State to the contrary notwithstanding.
Have someone read this and explain this article from the US Constitution to you.
Great post and good point.

It's sad watch Retired go on and on about how he defended the Constitution with his military service and yet he doesn't even understand what principles he put his life on the line for!

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February 27, 2014

A federal judge on Thursday signed an order directing officials in Kentucky to immediately recognize same-sex marriages performed in other states and countries.

U.S. District Judge John G. Heyburn II issued a final order throwing out part of the state's ban on gay marriages. It makes official his Feb. 12 ruling that Kentucky's ban on same-sex marriages treated "gay and lesbian persons differently in a way that demeans them."

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php...
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February 27, 2014
A federal judge on Thursday signed an order directing officials in Kentucky to immediately recognize same-sex marriages performed in other states and countries.
U.S. District Judge John G. Heyburn II issued a final order throwing out part of the state's ban on gay marriages. It makes official his Feb. 12 ruling that Kentucky's ban on same-sex marriages treated "gay and lesbian persons differently in a way that demeans them."
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php...
(not faulting you, simply being informative) There is confusion all over the news about this. Apparently the latest news is that he issued a 20-day stay -- but something about this must have been done oddly, because many reputable sources are claiming full steam ahead.

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(not faulting you, simply being informative) There is confusion all over the news about this. Apparently the latest news is that he issued a 20-day stay -- but something about this must have been done oddly, because many reputable sources are claiming full steam ahead.
The Kentucky AG wanted a 90 day stay...claiming it would take that long for the state to be able to implement the new change.......which I think is BS and the Judge agreed.......so, he stayed his ruling for ONLY 20 days.....but by 3/20/2014.......the State will have to come into compliance with the order.

Frankly, I think the AG was hoping for the longer stay because of the other case pending regarding the right to marry!!!

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The Kentucky AG wanted a 90 day stay...claiming it would take that long for the state to be able to implement the new change.......which I think is BS and the Judge agreed.......so, he stayed his ruling for ONLY 20 days.....but by 3/20/2014.......the State will have to come into compliance with the order.
Frankly, I think the AG was hoping for the longer stay because of the other case pending regarding the right to marry!!!
And the AG is trying to figure out if not appealing this ruling will hurt his chances for Governor next year.

Not surprisingly it's more about politics than equality.
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The Kentucky AG wanted a 90 day stay...claiming it would take that long for the state to be able to implement the new change.......which I think is BS and the Judge agreed.......so, he stayed his ruling for ONLY 20 days.....but by 3/20/2014.......the State will have to come into compliance with the order.
Frankly, I think the AG was hoping for the longer stay because of the other case pending regarding the right to marry!!!
You're witnessing the domino effect caused by intellectual thought of just why we have any barriers to same sexed marriage. If someone were to have told me 7 years ago I'd be for same sex marriage I'd have laughed at them but even characters like me think from time to time and in doing so recognize logic.

I gotta get one of those blue and yellow 'equality' bumper stickers. It doesn't make me a political activist but at least the fool behind me in traffic will know my stance anymore.
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Your "RADICAL" stance will not help your case!! Good luck!!!
What's so f-ing "radical" about being yourself nutter??

I don't hang around gays myself but I hardly see them as "radical". I watch Cooper on the news because he's a good reporter and he's gay. Doesn't even come to mind. We've got talented football players "coming out" now yet the vast majority really don't care.

It's truly a non-issue...hardly "radical" if someone is gay and yeah genius...many are U.S. citizens, many served too and all are due their voice and full set of rights. You need to relax or at least find a cause that actually needs a voice. Hating gays is a waste of time. I know personally this to be true.

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