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Brenda Lee Johnson

Burbank, CA

#37101 Jan 14, 2013
LGBT intimidation lawsuits threaten free speech

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July 20, 2012 – Few things in nature are as terrifying as a prolonged drought. Rain is life-giving, a sign of God’s grace, but drought puts life to the test with a slow, consuming fire.
Hence the blazing sun and a deserted town at high noon symbolize a time of trial, a final crisis when an honest man stands alone against the heat.

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The heat is increasing for those opposed to the normalization of homosexuality. Fewer and fewer people are willing to speak out against a movement which has the power to silence its opponents.
Many leaders of the pro-family movement carefully avoid any discussion of the morality of homosexuality. Instead they prefer subtle sociological, psychological and legal arguments in support of traditional marriage. They do so not because these arguments are effective, but because they fear being called haters.
Their unwillingness to confront the homosexual rights movement gives the final measure of credibility to the canard that “opposition to sodomy is bigotry.”
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These leaders err greatly by hiding God’s message on homosexuality. Not only do they bring discredit on those who are faithful to God’s word, they also put themselves in jeopardy.
One new tactic used by the homosexual community is to silence free speech. One pro-family leader, Brian Camenker of MassResistance, is being sued for defamation of character for publishing a letter revealing the alleged activities of a homosexual youth organization in Maine. The plaintiff is a registered sex offender in Maine. Camenker, a man with limited means, is faced with losing his website and his livelihood, as well.
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Another pro-family website, Americans for Truth about Homosexuality, has been warned that if it continues to publish the same material, it too will be sued for defamation of character and its web hosting service will be forced to take the website off the internet.
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Similarly, Dr. Scott Lively, another leading figure in the pro-family movement, is being sued in Federal District Court by an organization called “The Sexual Minorities of Uganda” in what can only be characterized as a frivolous lawsuit and an assault on the First Amendment.
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These three examples prove that the power of the homosexual rights movement is now so vast and so reckless as to pose a threat to free speech.
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Although the proposed referendum question exempts the clergy from performing same-sex marriages, this will quickly change. If and when the homosexual rights movement triumphs, any opposition to homosexuality will quickly become a criminal offense as it is now a criminal offense in Canada and England and other countries in Europe. This includes any statement from the pulpit that homosexual acts are sinful. Reading Leviticus aloud in public will then constitute a crime.
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A movement powerful enough to support a foreign organization in their attempt to suppress the free speech of an American minister can easily silence any pastor, teacher, public official or ordinary citizen who dares say that homosexuality is wrong.
For the leaders of the pro-family movement to use the same message as their opponents — that marriage is good — and that the morality of same-sex marriage is not an issue, is more than a plan for failure. It is active collaboration with those who claim that truth-telling is bigotry and the Bible is hate speech.
When free speech is forbidden, that is precisely the time when one is most obligated to speak out. If neighbors cower in silence, that obligation grows heavier. Kneeling in the dirt and begging for forgiveness will not work, because as every confrontation with evil teaches, appeasement is no solution.

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After the town has fled, leaving the doors barred and the street deserted, a few will remain to confront an absurdity which can only yield barrenness and sterility.
Homosexual marriage is after all, the final swing of the scythe which cuts an already blighted society to the ground.
Legal Horndog

Alpharetta, GA

#37102 Jan 14, 2013
Brenda Lee Johnson wrote:
Similarly, Dr. Scott Lively, another leading figure in the pro-family movement, is being sued in Federal District Court by an organization called “The Sexual Minorities of Uganda” in what can only be characterized as a frivolous lawsuit and an assault on the First Amendment.
These three examples prove that the power of the homosexual rights movement is now so vast and so reckless as to pose a threat to free speech.
Although the proposed referendum question exempts the clergy from performing same-sex marriages, this will quickly change. If and when the homosexual rights movement triumphs, any opposition to homosexuality will quickly become a criminal offense as it is now a criminal offense in Canada and England and other countries in Europe. This includes any statement from the pulpit that homosexual acts are sinful. Reading Leviticus aloud in public will then constitute a crime.
A movement powerful enough to support a foreign organization in their attempt to suppress the free speech of an American minister can easily silence any pastor, teacher, public official or ordinary citizen who dares say that homosexuality is wrong.
For the leaders of the pro-family movement to use the same message as their opponents — that marriage is good — and that the morality of same-sex marriage is not an issue, is more than a plan for failure. It is active collaboration with those who claim that truth-telling is bigotry and the Bible is hate speech.
When free speech is forbidden, that is precisely the time when one is most obligated to speak out. If neighbors cower in silence, that obligation grows heavier. Kneeling in the dirt and begging for forgiveness will not work, because as every confrontation with evil teaches, appeasement is no solution.
After the town has fled, leaving the doors barred and the street deserted, a few will remain to confront an absurdity which can only yield barrenness and sterility.
Homosexual marriage is after all, the final swing of the scythe which cuts an already blighted society to the ground.
This article originally appeared on the Bangor (Maine) Daily News and is reprinted with the author’s permission.
Free speech has limits with dire consequences; for example:
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Yell 'fire' in a crowded theater when there is no fire; and you go directly to jail
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Similarly; slandering the personal lives of gay people likewise will end you up in jail and cost you a small fortune
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Don't do it
Samatha

Dallas, TX

#37103 Jan 14, 2013
So is the FDA Slandering Gays?

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FDA: Gay Men Still Banned from Donating Blood Over Documented Risk Concerns

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WASHINGTON, D.C.,– Despite attempts by pro-homosexual advocates to paint the homosexual lifestyle as just another, normal, and healthy lifestyle choice, the FDA has renewed its 1983 policy that gay men cannot donate blood, due to the high-risk nature of living an active homosexual lifestyle.

This past Wednesday the FDA stated that, despite mounting opposition to the policy, it will for medical reasons continue to uphold its ban on men who live or who have lived an active homosexual life from donating blood.

According to the FDA, the ban is in place because,“A history of male-to-male sex is associated with an increased risk for the presence of and transmission of certain infectious diseases, including HIV, the virus that causes AIDS.”

The FDA policy relating to homosexual men is unique in its severity. While there is a lengthy list of criteria by which a potential donor may be deferred from donating blood (such as visiting particular African countries), such bans usually expire after a certain period of time. The ban on homosexual men, however, applies to any man who has ever had sex with another man, even once, subsequent to 1977.

The Administration, however, argues that the strictness of the ban is justified, pointing out that the “policy is intended to protect all people who receive blood transfusions from an increased risk of exposure to potentially infected blood and blood products.”

Some, however, are arguing that the FDA’s policy is discriminatory against homosexual men. Arthur Caplan, in an editorial for NBC6 argues that new testing technologies alleviate any fear that patients may contract AIDS by receiving a tainted transfusion.“At one time, long ago, the gay-blood ban may have made sense. But it no longer does,” he said.

“If a man has sex with a high risk woman, he’s allowed back into the donation pool after 12 months,” complained Joel Ginsberg, the executive director of the Gay and Lesbian Medical Association.“If he has safe sex with another man, he’s banned for life.”

Recognizing that the area of homosexuality is a controversial realm, however, with pro-homosexual activists on the watch for any signs of discrimination, the FDA responded to accusations of discrimination in its updated official policy in the matter. The “deferral policy is based on the documented increased risk of certain transfusion transmissible infections, such as HIV, associated with male-to-male sex and is not based on any judgment concerning the donor’s sexual orientation,” reads the FDA’s policy.

“Surveillance data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention indicate that men who have sex with men and would be likely to donate have a HIV prevalence that is at present over 15 fold higher than the general population, and over 2000 fold higher than current repeat blood donors (i.e., those who have been negatively screened and tested) in the USA.”

Dr. Robertson Davenport, who is an associate professor of pathology at the University of Michigan Hospital, agrees with the decision of the FDA.“The data are clear that men who engage in sexual contact with other men, as a whole, have a significantly higher risk of HIV,” he said.“Given our testing is not perfect, we will increase the risk to patients.”

A number of European countries have similar bans pertaining to homosexual man. Canada also forbids homosexual men from donating blood, due to similar concerns.

http://www.fda.gov/BiologicsBloodVaccines/Blo...
Legal Horndog wrote:
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Free speech has limits with dire consequences; for example:
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Yell 'fire' in a crowded theater when there is no fire; and you go directly to jail
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Similarly; slandering the personal lives of gay people likewise will end you up in jail and cost you a small fortune
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Don't do it
question

Saint Louis, MO

#37104 Jan 14, 2013
Did you donate blood jon jon?
The Lone Gunmen

United States

#37105 Jan 14, 2013
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Homosexual Man Suing for Right to Donate Blood Donated While Infected with Syphilis

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OTTAWA, Ontario,- A homosexual man who is suing Canadian Blood Services (CBS) for the right to donate blood was found to be infected with syphilis and gonorrhea after having lied repeatedly on the questionnaire about his sexual history. An Ottawa court heard the case this week.
CBS launched a suit against Kyle Freeman, 36, for negligent misrepresentation after they found out that he had lied on their form and, through regular blood screening, that he had syphilis.
In response, Freeman has launched his own suit against CBS, alleging that the policy violates his Charter right to equality and that it is scientifically unfounded.

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Freedman lied on the CBS questionnaire because, he said, he would have been "blacklisted" from donating henceforth. "Once they found out I was in a same sex relationship, I would not be able to donate blood anymore," he said. "I would be blacklisted."
"I felt my risk was non-existent," he said.
"I wanted the blood to be used. I took all the precautions for the blood to be used."
CBS policy prohibits blood donations from any man who has had sex with another man since 1977, in an effort to screen out donors with sexually transmitted diseases, particularly HIV. Relying on blood tests to screen out blood with HIV is dangerous because the disease may not show up in tests for up to three months.

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CBS' lawyer told the court that Freeman's case illustrates how "very dangerous" it is to rely on self-assessment in giving blood. "[The] rigorous donor-screening process is critical in minimizing the possibility that, through error, an infected blood unit will be transfused to a patient," she said.

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The CBS lawsuit followed anonymous e-mails sent to them by Freeman, in which he admitted to lying on the questionnaire to "stimulate discussion, research and change." He linked to information that gave evidence of behaviors more risky than male homosexual sex..hile Freeman contends that a ban on men who have had sex with men is scientifically unfounded, a large body of evidence indicates otherwise.

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For example, in August, the Centers for Disease Control (CDC) announced their estimate that the rate of AIDS is 61 times higher among American homosexual men than in the rest of the population. In 2011, the CDC revealed that approximately 61% of new HIV cases were in homosexual men.

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Last year, the head of the World Health Organization's HIV/AIDS department, epidemiologist Kevin de Cock, admitted that outside of sub-Saharan Africa there is no pandemic of AIDS amongst heterosexuals, saying it is among homosexual men that the disease is on the rise. Further, the WHO warned earlier this year that it is male homosexual sex that is causing the spread of AIDS in Asia.
Perhaps more shocking, relating to the issue of self-assessment, a University of Toronto survey of 5,000 homosexual and bisexual men in Ontario found that 27% of those who had HIV did not know that they were infected.

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In 2012, the FDA renewed their ban on blood donations from men who have sex with men, saying, "A history of male-to-male sex is associated with an increased risk for the presence of and transmission of certain infectious diseases, including HIV, the virus that causes AIDS."

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Grampy wrote:
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I think the FDA should allow gays to donate blood with just one stipulation; individual donations must be of a minimum of 10 pints per person per donation.
question wrote:
Did you donate blood jon jon?
Worm

Miami, FL

#37106 Jan 14, 2013
You measured his goober? Is that what your talking about? Is there some kind of Gay linguist test?
Just Think wrote:
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That's some rockin' descriptive skills you have there, NoQ. I bet you've worked your little three incher into a frenzy!

Since: Nov 09

Oswego, IL

#37107 Jan 14, 2013
GAY PEOPLE THINK THEY CAN MAKE SOMETHING THAT IS IMMORAL MORAL ITS A SIN IN GODS EYES AN YOU WILL BURN IN HELL FOR IT UNLESS YOU REPENT
Doctor Horndog

Alpharetta, GA

#37108 Jan 14, 2013
JD St Louis wrote:
GAY PEOPLE THINK THEY CAN MAKE SOMETHING THAT IS IMMORAL MORAL ITS A SIN IN GODS EYES AN YOU WILL BURN IN HELL FOR IT UNLESS YOU REPENT
Another homophobe heard from
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So now we have to take another look at GOD's sin list to see if the snarling fundies have added gay people yet:
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1. I am the Lord thy God. Thou shalt have no other Gods before me
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2. Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain
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3. Thou shalt keep holy the sabbath day
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4. Honor thy father and thy mother
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5. Thou shalt not kill
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6. Thou shalt not commit adultery
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7. Thou shalt not steal
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8. Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor
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9. Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's wife
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10. Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's goods
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Nope
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No gay people on GOD's sin list

Since: Nov 12

Location hidden

#37109 Jan 14, 2013
Doctor Horndog wrote:
<quoted text>Another homophobe heard from
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So now we have to take another look at GOD's sin list to see if the snarling fundies have added gay people yet:
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1. I am the Lord thy God. Thou shalt have no other Gods before me
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2. Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain
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3. Thou shalt keep holy the sabbath day
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4. Honor thy father and thy mother
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5. Thou shalt not kill
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6. Thou shalt not commit adultery
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7. Thou shalt not steal
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8. Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor
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9. Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's wife
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10. Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's goods
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Nope
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No gay people on GOD's sin list
You forgot the two entire cities of Sodom & Gamorrah that God destroyed because of homosexual acts. God called it an abomination. I would call that a sin.

“It's a bathroom”

Since: Jul 07

Get over it, already

#37110 Jan 14, 2013
Just Think wrote:
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That's some rockin' descriptive skills you have there, NoQ. I bet you've worked your little three incher into a frenzy!
NoQ only has a 3-incher if you measure starting from behind his sack. If you measure from the pubic bone, it's a micro-schwanz.
Michael Clark Duncun

San Ramon, CA

#37111 Jan 14, 2013
Southern Lady01 wrote:
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You forgot the two entire cities of Sodom & Gamorrah that God destroyed because of homosexual acts. God called it an abomination. I would call that a sin.
Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Yeah,right,UmmmK! What ever you say! Tell us,have you met Tattoo or Mr. Rourke yet? Your religious fantasy begins tomorrow! That particular fairy tale had absolutely nothing to do with being gay! What an ignorant bone head you are! De plane,de plane,de plane!

Since: Nov 12

Location hidden

#37112 Jan 15, 2013
Michael Clark Duncun wrote:
<quoted text>Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Yeah,right,UmmmK! What ever you say! Tell us,have you met Tattoo or Mr. Rourke yet? Your religious fantasy begins tomorrow! That particular fairy tale had absolutely nothing to do with being gay! What an ignorant bone head you are! De plane,de plane,de plane!
Ok. Then they were just sick twisted perverted idiots that made God sick so he killed them all. Whatever he fixed what he didn't want. You'd think they'd learn.

Since: Apr 09

Location hidden

#37113 Jan 15, 2013
JD St Louis wrote:
GAY PEOPLE THINK THEY CAN MAKE SOMETHING THAT IS IMMORAL MORAL ITS A SIN IN GODS EYES AN YOU WILL BURN IN HELL FOR IT UNLESS YOU REPENT
Yeah, yeah....blah, blah.

Meanwhile, back here in the real world...
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Since: Apr 09

Location hidden

#37115 Jan 15, 2013
Southern Lady01 wrote:
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You forgot the two entire cities of Sodom & Gamorrah that God destroyed because of homosexual acts. God called it an abomination. I would call that a sin.
Unless you can prove that your god actually destroyed two ancient cities for the reason you describe, your argument has no merit.

Meanwhile, back in the real world...

Since: Apr 09

Location hidden

#37116 Jan 15, 2013
Southern Lady01 wrote:
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Ok. Then they were just sick twisted perverted idiots that made God sick so he killed them all. Whatever he fixed what he didn't want. You'd think they'd learn.
Well, then, your god must really want gays and lesbians around because here we are...always have been, always will be.
Rainbow Kid

Alpharetta, GA

#37117 Jan 15, 2013
Southern Lady01 wrote:
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You forgot the two entire cities of Sodom & Gamorrah that God destroyed because of homosexual acts. God called it an abomination. I would call that a sin.
Well; sugar
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It didn't work
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We're all still here!
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nana-nana-na-NAH!
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Rainbow Kid

Alpharetta, GA

#37121 Jan 15, 2013
Worm wrote:
That is what they said in school!
Recommended New York sex ed site offers middleschoolers tips on eating feces, bestiality, fetishes
WARNING: very explicit content.
NEW YORK - The recommended curriculum for a mandatory sex education course to be implemented in New York middle and high schools next year directs students to a website that details “safe sex” practices regarding bestiality, coprophagia, and other extreme sexual fetishes.
The New York Post reported on Saturday that assignments in a workbook recommended by city education officials included giving middle schoolers “risk cards” to rate the safety of such activities as anal sex, oral sex, and “intercourse using a condom and an oil-based lubricant.”
New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg defended the sex curriculum as necessary to combat the city's STD infections and out-of-wedlock births.
Teens are also told to learn the route from school to the nearest family planning clinic and research its confidentiality policy, or to report on condom brands and features such as lubrication.
But one of the most extreme aspects of the curriculum is its referral to “Go Ask Alice,” a website run by Columbia University that offers comprehensive analysis of sex fetishes and their hygienic pitfalls.
“The idea of experimenting with scat play might heat things up in the bedroom (or bathroom, or anywhere else you choose), but it’s always a good idea to consider the risks of a behavior before acting upon (or getting action from) it,” states the website in one page entitled “‘Scat’ play — is eating feces safe?” Other areas discuss pornography, drinking urine, and “favorite sexual positions.” One page proposes to overcome lack of information on the bestiality due to “stigmatization” of the practice.
The NYC Parents’ Choice Coalition has launched a campaign against the new curriculum, urging parents to opt their kids out of the program. However, the city’s Department of Education defended the information as more in-depth instruction on safe-sex practices, and noted that abstinence would also be taught.
Mayor Bloomberg defended the sex curriculum as necessary to combat the city’s STD infections and out-of-wedlock births.“We have a responsibility, when you have an out of wedlock birthrate and a sexually transmitted disease rate that we have in this city, to try to do something about it,” said the mayor on Monday.“Shame on us if we don’t.”
CNN reports that the NYC Department of Education will mandate that all schools have a sexual education curriculum by next spring.
Click here for NYC Parents’ Choice Coalition’s contact page for Mayor Bloomgberg and the NYC Department of Education.
Do you plan to enroll?

Since: Apr 09

Location hidden

#37122 Jan 15, 2013
Worm wrote:
That is what they said in school!
Recommended New York sex ed site offers middleschoolers tips on eating feces, bestiality, fetishes
yawn...lies posted on several fundamentalist christian sites and nowhere else.

Poor pathetic Worm/ Cool Hand Luke/ Blair/ Samatha/ Brenda Lee/ Lone Gunman...such a pathetic creature.
Cool Hand Luke

Bangkok, Thailand

#37123 Jan 15, 2013
Is this a fundamentalist Christian website? Or are you lying to deceive the reader?

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Gay Sexual Practices Lead to Uptick in Disease

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FECAL SEX About 80% of gays admit to licking and/or inserting their tongues into the anus of partners and thus ingesting medically significant amounts of feces. Those who eat or wallow in it are probably at even greater risk. In the diary study,5 70% of the gays had engaged in this activity--half regularly over 6 months. Result?--the "annual incidence of hepatitis A in...homosexual men was 22 percent, whereas no heterosexual men acquired hepatitis A." In 1992,26 it was noted that the proportion of gays engaging in oral/anal sex had not declined.

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Gay Men and Shigellosis
What is Shigellosis?
Shigellosis is a disease that causes stomach cramps, fever, diarrhea and sometimes bloody diarrhea.
What causes Shigellosis?
Shigellosis is caused by the Shigella bacterium. Shigella is found in feces (shit).
Who gets it?
Anyone can get Shigellosis. Gay men get Shigellosis at higher rates than others. People with a weakened immune
system get more sick than others.
How do you get it?
You can get Shigellosis when feces comes in contact with your mouth. This can happen with oral/anal sex play. This
can happen when you use your fingers or hand for anal sex play and then touch your mouth. Even microscopic
amounts of feces that get into your mouth can cause Shigellosis.
How can I avoid Shigella?
Play safely. In addition to safe sex guidelines to prevent HIV, maintain good hygiene. Wash every
part of your body that is sexual with soap and water before, after and between sex play. Use condoms
or other kinds of barriers like dental dams, latex gloves or plastic wrap and be aware of
what body parts may have come into contact with feces during sex play. Wash them with soap
and water. Use condoms with sex toys, and discard the condoms after use.
What do I do if I think I have Shigellosis?
• If you think you have Shigellosis, see your doctor.
• Inform your partners.
• Wash your hands a lot.
• Don’t have sex until 7 days after symptoms end.
• Talk with a medical provider about what you can do to reduce your risk.
publichealth.lacounty.gov/acd/docs/Shigellosi...
Just Think wrote:
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yawn...lies posted on several fundamentalist christian sites and nowhere else.
Poor pathetic Worm/ Cool Hand Luke/ Blair/ Samatha/ Brenda Lee/ Lone Gunman...such a pathetic creature.
2 posts removed

Since: Apr 09

Location hidden

#37126 Jan 16, 2013
Cool Hand Luke wrote:
Is this a fundamentalist Christian website?
Ah, Worm/ Cool Hand Luke/ Blair/ Samatha/ Brenda Lee/ Lone Gunman...not even bothering to deny that you are all the same person just spamming up the boards.

And, hey - thanks for admitting that your previous post was, indeed, lies from a fundamentalist christian website!

Poor. sad Worm/ Cool Hand Luke/ Blair/ Samatha/ Brenda Lee/ Lone Gunman...so obsessed with gay men...and only gay men...hmmmm

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