Gun control debate heating up in stat...

Gun control debate heating up in statehouses

There are 2688 comments on the NBC29 story from Dec 21, 2012, titled Gun control debate heating up in statehouses. In it, NBC29 reports that:

By The Associated Press Your daily look at late-breaking news, upcoming events and stories that will be talked about Friday: President Barack Obama says his administration has received an outpouring of support for stricter gun laws following last week's elementary school massacre in Connecticut, telling respondents to an online... President Barack ... (more)

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#1111 Jan 11, 2013
downhill246 wrote:
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He was even more thankful that liberals designated the school as a gun free zone and even advertised it.
He didn't use a gun zone to kill the children.

He used an assault weapon- the kind that the NRA insists Americans have a right to buy and carry with them armed with massacre magazines every where they go, including public schools.

Americans are tired of the slaughter and tired of the special rights.

Tick tock.

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#1112 Jan 11, 2013
downhill246 wrote:
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At the end of the day, AR-15s and AR-10s are great hunting rifles
Tiny-dicked toys for tiny dick boys.

PS:

CAMBRIDGE, Ohio (AP)— An Ohio sheriff says a man who killed his 5-year-old son before turning the gun on himself struggled with depression and had been out of work for some time.

Guernsey County Sheriff Michael McCauley said 36-year-old Russell Ball had threatened to kill himself in a text message exchange Tuesday night with his estranged wife, but she didn't take him seriously because he never attempted it before.

McCauley said Ball killed his young son with a shotgun before shooting himself sometime after that. Their bodies were found at Ball's home near Cambridge Wednesday afternoon.

McCauley said Russell Ball and his wife had separated the day after Christmas.

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#1113 Jan 11, 2013
downhill246 wrote:
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No problem, liberal loser. 2.78 million background checks in December,
LOL.

Lot's more coming, that is what the background check is for.

Coming soon: universal background checks for all sales and all transfers.

No more loophole.

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#1114 Jan 11, 2013
downhill246 wrote:
Next they will require automobiles to be registered so they won't be stolen and used in crimes.LOL
LOL.

Automobiles have been registered for over one hundred years without screaming and crying from their owners.

Funny how that is.

Full registration of weapons... coming...

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#1115 Jan 11, 2013
Richard_ wrote:
"You have to pass the bill in order to know what's in the bill" ~ Nancy Pelosi
This week, CNN reported on what they labeled a “secret” provision put in the healthcare law by Sen. Harry Reid (D-Nev.) that was aimed at keeping gun-right groups from opposing the law. Conservatives have long argued that since most members of Congress did not read the law, there are several parts of it that we do not yet understand. This CNN report gave conservatives hope that some of those parts may even have ended up benefiting some conservative causes.

CNN claimed that the provision stated that ‘Government cannot collect:“…any information relating to —(A) The lawful ownership or possession of a firearm or ammunition.”‘

Hot Air, Breitbart News and several other conservative sites picked up on that description and reported it as positive news for gun right advocates. But CNN omitted a key part of that section of the law, which gives the provision a very different meaning. The full section states:

‘(2) LIMITATION ON DATA COLLECTION.—None of the authorities provided to the Secretary under the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act or an amendment made by that Act shall be construed to authorize or may be used for the collection of any information relating to—

‘‘(A) the lawful ownership or possession of a firearm or ammunition;

‘‘(B) the lawful use of a firearm or ammunition; or

‘‘(C) the lawful storage of a firearm or ammunition.’

This means that the provision does not actually prevent the collection of any such data, instead it clarifies that nothing in the new law explicitly grants the government power to collect that information. In other words, if other laws or orders allow for the collection of the data described above, this provision will do nothing to reverse that.

While it is true that we are still figuring out exactly what was in this monstrous 2800 page bill, this specific provision is not really the silver lining some people were looking for.

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#1116 Jan 11, 2013
duzitreallymatter wrote:
If I have an intruder, again, they will get more than one round launched at them.
More likely we will be reading about the police taking you away in cuffs because you lacked the stones to finish the murder-suicide.

PS:
Boy accidentally shoots and kills 12 year old cousin
Posted: Jan 09, 2013 11:31 AM PST Updated: Jan 09, 2013 11:31 AM PST



A boy accidentally shot and killed his 12 year old cousin with a shotgun Tuesday in Pleasant Valley in Calhoun County on Macon Johnson Drive. Calhoun County Chief Deputy Matthew Wade says two boys were outdoors playing on a trampoline when one of them told his relative he received a shotgun for Christmas. The boy went indoors to retrieve the gun and showed it to his cousin. Wade says the boy pretended to shoot his cousin not realizing a live round was inside the shotgun. The gun discharged killing the 12 year old.

No charges will be filed.
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Salt Lake City, UT

#1118 Jan 11, 2013
Wall Street Government wrote:
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I stated that's all I would have to fire is ONE.
Don't bet your life on it.

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Salt Lake City, UT

#1119 Jan 11, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
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...struggled with depression...
Yet another example of how mental health needs to be adressed. But of course it was the gun's fault so all guns are bad.

The mental health issue is front and center on almost all killings of this nature. But it isn't politically correct to address the issue.

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Salt Lake City, UT

#1120 Jan 11, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
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More likely we will be reading about the police taking you away in cuffs because you lacked the stones to finish the murder-suicide.
PS:
Murder -suicide? What does that have to do with shooting an intruder(s)?

(The Columbus Dispatch, Columbus, Ohio 01/08/12)

After pulling into the driveway of his brother’s home in Columbus, Ohio, Kelby Smith removed his 2-month-old son, still in his car seat, from the vehicle. While still in the driveway, an armed robber approached Smith and demanded money, prompting Smith to kneel down to shield his son. Smith, a Right-to-Carry permit holder, handed the man a small amount of money then drew a pistol, at which point the criminal retreated. But during his escape, the robber turned and pointed his gun at Smith, prompting Smith to shoot the criminal.
Police captured the wounded robber a short time later after he sought medical treatment at a local hospital. Smith and his son were not harmed during the incident and police have not charged the armed citizen.

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#1121 Jan 11, 2013
duzitreallymatter wrote:
<quoted text>Yet another example of how mental health needs to be adressed..
Right.

But not the use of guns, oh no!

Even though there is a direct connection between the availability of guns and murders and suicides (and the hundreds of murders of women by their spouse every year): we don't want to look at the connection to guns.

Or- in this case- assault weapons being used to killed dozens of people in one incident.

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#1122 Jan 11, 2013
duzitreallymatter wrote:
<quoted text>Murder -suicide? What does that have to do with shooting an intruder(s)?
What does shooting an intruder have to do with gun control?

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#1123 Jan 11, 2013
duzitreallymatter wrote:
<quoted text>Murder -suicide? What does that have to do with shooting an intruder(s)?
(The Columbus Dispatch, Columbus, Ohio 01/08/12)
After pulling into the driveway of his brother’
A year ago.

Do you want to look at who has died in the last 24 hours, give or take delay in reporting times?

Here's one:

One person was killed and another critically wounded in an apparent attempted murder-suicide in the Nutbush area of North Memphis Wednesday night.

The incident happened after 8 p.m. in the 1800 block of Parnassus. Responding officers found two victims. One was pronounced dead and the other taken to the hospital in critical condition.

Police believe this was an attempted murder-suicide, and that the victim and shooter are neighbors. No names were released.

Since your incident... over 31,000 have died from firearms.

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#1124 Jan 11, 2013
duzitreallymatter wrote:
The mental health issue is front and center on almost all killings of this nature.
Actually, it isn't.

The gun is front and center on ALL these killings.

The typical gun gnutter response: oh, it's okay to have the gun to protect the family right up until the second he pulls the trigger... and then it's because he had a mental health issue.
Village Mystery

Huntsville, AL

#1125 Jan 11, 2013
Hmmm. Young people didn't used to instigate mass shootings on the regular.

Oh well, put government there....grunt grunt.

The central planners literally have nothing of value to offer to ANY given situation. They ALWAYS propose the brute force of police and their guns to stop any and all unwanted behavior in society.

These slobs are not peaceful but are hysterical and dangerous who have no thoughts in their minds only, "make it illegal".
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Since: Nov 11

Salt Lake City, UT

#1127 Jan 11, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
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Right.
But not the use of guns, oh no!
Even though there is a direct connection between the availability of guns and murders and suicides (and the hundreds of murders of women by their spouse every year): we don't want to look at the connection to guns.
Or- in this case- assault weapons being used to killed dozens of people in one incident.
Guns seem to be the target. Nothing else is being looked at with the same vim & vigor. Yet a whole lot more legal gun owners have committed no crime yet they will be the ones to suffer as a result of any ban.

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Salt Lake City, UT

#1128 Jan 11, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
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Actually, it isn't.
The gun is front and center on ALL these killings.
The typical gun gnutter response: oh, it's okay to have the gun to protect the family right up until the second he pulls the trigger... and then it's because he had a mental health issue.
Again, millions of gun owners have committed no crime and are statistically not going to.

Did you ever find any evidence to refute my claim that less than one half of one percent of gun permit holders ever commit a violent crime? You attention span doesn't seem to be up to what a reasonable person would consider normal, so I'll keep reminding you.

Since: Nov 11

Salt Lake City, UT

#1129 Jan 11, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
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Actually, it isn't.
The gun is front and center on ALL these killings.
The typical gun gnutter response: oh, it's okay to have the gun to protect the family right up until the second he pulls the trigger... and then it's because he had a mental health issue.
Of the big mass murders (Columbine, Aurora, Newtown, Tucson, et al) what was the common denominator other than firearms? Not to mention the even larger mass murders (NYC, DC, PA, OKC) that didn't even involve firearms.

Again, what percentage of gun permit holders commit ANY violent crime? I am obviously right or you would try to shove a rebuttal onto the thread.
Patriot

Boulder, CO

#1130 Jan 11, 2013
The usurper signs 'law' giving himself, Bush lifetime Secret Service guard

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/obama-sign...

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#1131 Jan 11, 2013
duzitreallymatter wrote:
<quoted text>Guns seem to be the target.
Guns are the common denominator.

Funny how that is.

And one way to if not prevent killings with assault weapons- if one were able to draw a straight line- would be to not have any assault weapons.

Instead of trying to draw the line past the assault weapon and around the back into silliness such as video games.

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#1132 Jan 11, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
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Since your incident... over 31,000 have died from firearms.
Where did you get the 32,000 number you keep spouting. The CDC only lists 11,493 http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/homicide.htm and that includes murder, self defense, police action, accidental, etc.

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