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Ariz.'s largest paper: Pols failed on immigration

There are 64 comments on the LA Daily News story from May 2, 2010, titled Ariz.'s largest paper: Pols failed on immigration. In it, LA Daily News reports that:

Arizona's largest newspaper criticized U.S. Sens. John McCain and Jon Kyl and a host of other elected officials in a rare front-page editorial Sunday, saying the politicians have failed to find solutions to illegal immigration.

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dennis

United States

#1 May 2, 2010
The newspaper called for reform that allows for current undocumented immigrants to earn

citizenship, secures the borders and puts tough sanctions in place for employers who hire

undocumented immigrants.

ahhhh......I thought we did this in 1986??

Doug MacEachern, maybe you weren't born yet.

This is just a little tussle for the illegal votes.

Illegal?? don't see it in your little rant anywhere.
citizen Sane

Oxnard, CA

#2 May 2, 2010
Anyone who is against law enforcement is against their city, state, and the Union.

“America & LEGAL Americans 1st”

Since: Aug 08

Chatsworth

#3 May 2, 2010
How porous does our southern border have to be before our federal government decides enough is enough? An Al Queda or Taliban dirty bomb nuke strike? Some major biological nightmare? What???
get a life

Cypress, CA

#4 May 2, 2010
Dave, that's just the corner. It's only a matter of time. When that happens, the law at long last will be enforced. What a waste of American lives. just go to show you how valuable we are to the government and all the politicians. But G0d forbid it happened to one of theirs...rears would be flying!
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Razors Edge

Palos Hills, IL

#6 May 2, 2010

John F. McManus, president of the John Birch Society, said:
Any discussion of the new law in Arizona must begin with awareness of the federal government's deficiencies. The U.S. Constitution clearly assigns the federal government the responsibility to protect the states "against invasion." (See Article IV, Section 4.) If that duty were being faithfully being carried out, there would be no need for the recently passed law in Arizona.

Note that the Constitution didn't say "military invasion," just invasion. And the millions who have broken our laws and inundated our country constitute an invasion.

Does those invasion laws piss off the Illegals??? If so why??
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Raul

Los Angeles, CA

#8 May 2, 2010
citizen Sane wrote:
Anyone who is against law enforcement is against their city, state, and the Union.
This is the same kind of talk Hitler used when he talked to Hitler youth.

Boycott Arizona!!!
Razors Edge

Palos Hills, IL

#9 May 2, 2010
Raul wrote:
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This is the same kind of talk Hitler used when he talked to Hitler youth.
Boycott Arizona!!!
Under Title 8 Section 1325 of the U.S. Code, "Improper Entry by Alien," any citizen of any country other than the United States has committed a crime who has already or tries to:

Enters or attempts to enter the United States at any time or place other than as designated by immigration officers; or
Eludes examination or inspection by immigration officers; or
Attempts to enter
or obtains entry to the United States by a willfully false or misleading representation or the willful concealment of a material fact;
Violations are supposed to be punishable by criminal fines and imprisonment for up to six months. Repeat offenses can bring up to two years in prison. Additional civil fines may be imposed at the discretion of immigration judges, but civil fines do not negate the criminal sanctions or nature of the offense.

Boycott this!
DCJ

Irvine, CA

#10 May 3, 2010
No Amnesty,no reward for breaking the laws of our country.
No special treatment,no quickie path to citizenship.
No Cutting in line,wait your turn just like the immigrants who came here LEGALLY.
Otherwise shut up and go back where you came from.
DCJ

Irvine, CA

#11 May 3, 2010
Our government who, to a man(or woman(although I wonder if Nancy Pelosi is actually a woman) is only in it for themselves,care nothing for the average American. We're just sheep to be led where they please.
Remember that they are immune to the health care needs, the social security plans and the financial problems of the American people since they have their own special plans and services as well as a golden parachute when they leave the job(even if its only been one,yes,just one term) Oh, and guess who voted them all these special privileges??? Oh and a substantial raise every year??(they did skip it this year because they thought the people would be too mad.
So do we really think that the problems caused by the huge number of illegals in our country affect their lives. No they simply regard these parasites as potential voters to help them stay hooked up to the gravy train.
So naturally they'll fight hard for amnesty. What the f**k do they care.
This November vote out every single incumbent.
Anything or anyone is better that what we currently have in the house and senate.
Oh and impeach that arrogant idiot who thinks he's the king and not the president.
Az Rep full of it

Torrance, CA

#12 May 3, 2010
Steve B wrote:
I've been reading these articles all week. And it is absolutely amazing how out of touch with our citizenry these writers are. Over and over articles proclaim the tyranny of Arizona's law, and promote further aid for these illegal aliens. Citing arguments of ," These are jobs Americans won't do". And other outlandishly false statements. And repeatedly I have read the comments when available. The numbers are staggering. 85% is an understatement. Not only are the thumbs pointing to the removal of all illegals. The articles are by far and away in favor of Arizona's stance. The media is obviously being controlled by our leaders who are trying to undermine our culture. Please vote out evry single politician who is not for the outright removal of these illegal interlopers destroying our economy.
Steve, I am so with you on this one! I have taken every poll on line just check KTLA televisions poll as all others, the citizens are overwhelming against those who cross our borders given any amnesty. I find it so reprehensible that our so called journalists these days cannot tell the truth. I agree vote everyone out-if our votes count anymore. These parades on May 1, 2010 were instigated and organized through labor unions, there were communist groups there just go on Chuck Devore's site/facebook page and see the pictures for your self! I am a parent of a 22 year old and I will be damned to put her life on the line for lies from the media. I will fight and vote and be a patriot-not a slime belly like our media of today.
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UR notsosmart

Bangkok, Thailand

#14 May 3, 2010
The illegals will leave Ariz and go to your state.
DRW - Los Angeles

Los Angeles, CA

#15 May 3, 2010
DCJ wrote:
No Amnesty,no reward for breaking the laws of our country.
No special treatment,no quickie path to citizenship.
No Cutting in line,wait your turn just like the immigrants who came here LEGALLY.
Otherwise shut up and go back where you came from.
I agree. They broke the law knowing they were breaking it. Out.
old guy

Van Nuys, CA

#16 May 3, 2010
GEt over it Arizona did the RIGHT thing so stop all the PC and follow the law of the land...OR LEAVE .....................period
TRUTH

Coachella, CA

#17 May 3, 2010
WHAT PART OF ILLEGAL DONT YOU UNDERSTAND? If the Federal Govt would do their JOB, Arizona would not have to! If the Politicians would listen to their constituents, the borders would be shut. It is the politicians who are looking to future latino groups for votes that is why they look the other way. The latino base is the largest growing group! Welcome third world. No more english, chickens and dogs everywhere. Go to east la and see if you want to live there! Look at the fastest growing prison populations and gangs.....

We now have kidnappings, drug cartel and gang violence.....on our border states....WTF! Are not Americans important? Are not we legal citizens worth anyting?

LEGAL IMMIGRATION ONLY.

Does this also not undermind every other law on the books. If you don't enforce this, why inforce any other law!
mewo nix

Pinecrest, CA

#18 May 3, 2010
This is all so stupid and ridiculous. THIS was ALL started by Reagan and Bush 1 more than 25 years ago when they DELIBERATELY elected to STOP enforcing all of OSHA's rules, regulations, and standards so that many of their friends who had contributed to their campaigns could exploit illegal immigrants for less than minimum wage without having to bear any responsibility for their health and safety, and so they could avoid paying workman's comp for everybody but their selected few. THIS is what started it all, and before ANY of you morons run your f-ing mouths about Liberals, Lefties, Democrats, Obama, Pelosi or whoever the F, you need to look at your REAL history. THIS is what happened, THIS is how it happened, and the two a-holes and their ilk who started it all were "CONSERVATIVE REPUBLICANS." THIS DELIBERATE ACTION is how it ALL got started, because I distinctly remember this not being such a problem or an issue way back then. I remember a whole HOST of jobs that started at $15/hour that NOW start at $7 -$8/hour, and that was ALL started by those two individuals listed at the stop of this post. They KNEW exactly what they were doing too. NOW, what you are seeing is the pre-planned ENDGAME of their actions, and YOU PEOPLE are blaming the current lineup of corrupt ignorant douche-bags. You had ALL THE TIME IN THE WORLD to DO SOMETHING about this. But you didn't, did you? I know a LOT of people, and truthfully, I'd be hard-pressed to find even ONE of them who hasn't taken advantage of the cheap labor pool hanging around Home Depot when they wanted to move, fix a roof, or install a new water-heater. You can run your mouths all you want about how, "we can pick our own fruit in America, we can mow our own lawns in America, we can bus our own tables in America." All I can say is that if were born here, and you're washing dishes, busing tables, picking fruit, or mowing lawns in this country, and some ignorant bumpkin from wherever who can't even speak English took your job, then you're a complete and total bona-fide front-running LOSER!!

If you want to find someone to blame for this mess, then I imagine the bathroom is 3 doors down the hall. Take your ass there and go have a good look at the person staring back at you in the mirror, because you've had a LONG TIME to deal with this, and you elected NOT to.

And as for drug traffickers and cartels, then you morons should have DEMANDED the full and complete legalization of ALL drugs, recreational and otherwise, and you would have seen a really quick and uneventful END to the drug cartels altogether.

But nope, instead, you just fall for the "drugs are bad" hysteria. Well as a child of the Nancy Reagan "Just Say NO" era, I am LIVING PROOF that if they had just kept their mouth shut about drugs and stopped making such a big deal out of them, I wouldn't have EVER wasted any time on them all those years ago, because quite frankly... To me, it looked more like some kind of sinister PLOT to get kids ON drugs in this country. Because when I was in 4TH grade, thanks to these War on Drugs a-holes, I COULDN'T WAIT to get my hands on some drugs. Perhaps my life would've been much easier if they had just left the issue alone and never criminalized them to begin with.
plopsdad

United States

#19 May 3, 2010
mewo nix wrote:
This is all so stupid and ridiculous. THIS was ALL started by Reagan and Bush 1 more than 25 years ago when they DELIBERATELY elected to STOP enforcing all of OSHA's rules, regulations, and standards so that many of their friends who had contributed to their campaigns could exploit illegal immigrants for less than minimum wage without having to bear any responsibility for their health and safety, and so they could avoid paying workman's comp for everybody but their selected few. THIS is what started it all, and before ANY of you morons run your f-ing mouths about Liberals, Lefties, Democrats, Obama, Pelosi or whoever the F, you need to look at your REAL history. THIS is what happened, THIS is how it happened, and the two a-holes and their ilk who started it all were "CONSERVATIVE REPUBLICANS." THIS DELIBERATE ACTION is how it ALL got started, because I distinctly remember this not being such a problem or an issue way back then. I remember a whole HOST of jobs that started at $15/hour that NOW start at $7 -$8/hour, and that was ALL started by those two individuals listed at the stop of this post. They KNEW exactly what they were doing too. NOW, what you are seeing is the pre-planned ENDGAME of their actions, and YOU PEOPLE are blaming the current lineup of corrupt ignorant douche-bags. You had ALL THE TIME IN THE WORLD to DO SOMETHING about this. But you didn't, did you? I know a LOT of people, and truthfully, I'd be hard-pressed to find even ONE of them who hasn't taken advantage of the cheap labor pool hanging around Home Depot when they wanted to move, fix a roof, or install a new water-heater. You can run your mouths all you want about how, "we can pick our own fruit in America, we can mow our own lawns in America, we can bus our own tables in America." All I can say is that if were born here, and you're washing dishes, busing tables, picking fruit, or mowing lawns in this country, and some ignorant bumpkin from wherever who can't even speak English took your job, then you're a complete and total bona-fide front-running LOSER!!
If you want to find someone to blame for this mess, then I imagine the bathroom is 3 doors down the hall. Take your ass there and go have a good look at the person staring back at you in the mirror, because you've had a LONG TIME to deal with this, and you elected NOT to.
And as for drug traffickers and cartels, then you morons should have DEMANDED the full and complete legalization of ALL drugs, recreational and otherwise, and you would have seen a really quick and uneventful END to the drug cartels altogether.
But nope, instead, you just fall for the "drugs are bad" hysteria. Well as a child of the Nancy Reagan "Just Say NO" era, I am LIVING PROOF that if they had just kept their mouth shut about drugs and stopped making such a big deal out of them, I wouldn't have EVER wasted any time on them all those years ago, because quite frankly... To me, it looked more like some kind of sinister PLOT to get kids ON drugs in this country. Because when I was in 4TH grade, thanks to these War on Drugs a-holes, I COULDN'T WAIT to get my hands on some drugs. Perhaps my life would've been much easier if they had just left the issue alone and never criminalized them to begin with.
Is that the same as the dems voting down border enforcement measures back during the 86 amnesty? Seems to me, to solve the issue, you would vote for them, no against
Landofnorain

United States

#20 May 3, 2010
The Federal Government is indeed doing it's job. Congress and the Republican Party in particular represent the desires of the corporations who pay for them to be in Congress. Corporations want cheap, disposable labor that is docile and afraid of the authorities. They want the modern day equivalent of the slave, and the Mexican here in the US illegally is their gold standard for labor. They are hungry and afraid, willing to do just about anything without complaint. Citizens with a sense of their rights are the enemies of the corporation, and the enemies of the Congress that the corporations buy. In the face of corporate money we are powerless.
The Smith Act

United States

#21 May 3, 2010
Google The Smith Act (Alien Registration Act) Everyone coming into the U.S. who are 14 or older are required "by law" to register with the govt. Why haven't the Feds upheld this one? It was signed into law in 1940 by President Roosevelt.
give me american any day

Hesperia, CA

#22 May 3, 2010
mark kriski said this morning that he sees nothing wrong with the law in arizona.but did you hear the guy from the mexican consulate he said that mexico is lax on illegals. i was laughing to hard because i knew he was lieing out his behind.so many citizens are so pissed off,because the goverment wont do their job.something has to be done.and the mexicans say we are profiling. well since mexico is so hard on illegals there,we know that no other people are coming from there.do they think we are stupid what country is right under us.and the newspapers and most of the news,well all i have heard from them is about people who are against the law,with the exception of cbs,they did talk about people who are for the law.how many more drugs,rapes,murders before they will listen.our lives depend on it.i am tired of them getting their way,and them crying boo hoo.NO AMESTY and HARSHER PUNISHMENTS to anybody who helps them.and GET A NEW GOVERMENT WHO CARES ABOUT THE CITIZENS.and.honestly what rights do illegals have.and then we find out that the gangs in prison are helping the cartels in mexico.and the bleedings hearts dont want to hear it.something needs to be done now.before its too late.
iloveaz

Baldwin, NY

#23 May 3, 2010
They've failed to shove 20 Million Illegal Parasites and future DemocRATS down our throats ! See how quick these RATS change their tune when see they're out !!!! Too little to late you pandering bafoons ! Vote them all out what ever party they belong to , let them all run for office in MEXICO , after all it's those folk they already work for !!!!

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