Texas: Gay-marriage ban best for chil...

Texas: Gay-marriage ban best for children

There are 685 comments on the The Washington Post story from Jul 29, 2014, titled Texas: Gay-marriage ban best for children. In it, The Washington Post reports that:

Texas' ban on same-sex marriage allows the state to promote the birth and upbringing of children in "stable, lasting relationships," the state's attorney general argued Tuesday while asking a federal appeals court to reinstate the ban.

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Wondering

Tyngsboro, MA

#578 Aug 13, 2014
lides wrote:
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Whereas anyone reading your posts looking for an intelligent thought will be disappointed.
Did you have anything on topic to say, or did you just want to reassert that you are an idiot?
Any evidence that gay adoption is bad for children?
http://www.bu.edu/today/2013/gay-parents-as-g...
http://www.goldencradle.org/how-do-children-s...
http://thinkprogress.org/lgbt/2012/10/30/1110...
All things being equal, you don't look too terribly bright.
All things are never equal. Is "gay adoption" when a family adopts a gay kid or did you mean something else? I can tell you that I'm very happy I wasn't adopted by a gay couple. I grew up in the city and that would have made me a target for bullying.

Since: Dec 08

El Paso, TX

#579 Aug 13, 2014
Wondering wrote:
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All things are never equal. Is "gay adoption" when a family adopts a gay kid or did you mean something else? I can tell you that I'm very happy I wasn't adopted by a gay couple. I grew up in the city and that would have made me a target for bullying.
Thanks for providing first hand proof that kids need educated about various kinds of families. Your own words proving your ignorance is just plain wrong! There is obviously a need for kids to be educated on this issue!
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Wondering

Tyngsboro, MA

#581 Aug 13, 2014
TomInElPaso wrote:
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Thanks for providing first hand proof that kids need educated about various kinds of families. Your own words proving your ignorance is just plain wrong! There is obviously a need for kids to be educated on this issue!
Yes, we want them to be able to afford their own health care insurance.
There's a guy in El Paso that needs a big ACA subsidy. Think his name is Tom.

“Common sense prevails.”

Since: Mar 14

3rd rock from the sun.

#582 Aug 13, 2014
SevenTee wrote:
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BS, people who choose homosexuality for their perversions are less than 3%.
Take it up with UCLA, ignoramus. I said it's an estimate.

“Common sense prevails.”

Since: Mar 14

3rd rock from the sun.

#583 Aug 13, 2014
Wondering wrote:
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Actually, both exist. Why the word games?
There are pedophiles that are homosexual.
There are pedophiles that are heterosexual.
Which is correct?
Your version:
There are no "homosexual" humans
My version:
There are humans that are homosexuals.
I'll take the APA's word over yours and your half baked left wing websites any day of the week.
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“Common sense prevails.”

Since: Mar 14

3rd rock from the sun.

#585 Aug 13, 2014
lides wrote:
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Whereas anyone reading your posts looking for an intelligent thought will be disappointed.
Did you have anything on topic to say, or did you just want to reassert that you are an idiot?
Any evidence that gay adoption is bad for children?
http://www.bu.edu/today/2013/gay-parents-as-g...
http://www.goldencradle.org/how-do-children-s...
http://thinkprogress.org/lgbt/2012/10/30/1110...
All things being equal, you don't look too terribly bright.
Ahhh, I doubt "IT" will read these excellent articles and if IT does IT won't believe them. Some would rather read the right Rev. Billy Bubba and believe his latest white lightening induced prophetic vision. IT will lap it up like cream and feel blessed by the guiding hand of the Lawd.
Wondering

Tyngsboro, MA

#586 Aug 13, 2014
DebraE wrote:
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I'll take the APA's word over yours and your half baked left wing websites any day of the week.
I thought you wanted to learn something. I was wrong.
Wondering

Tyngsboro, MA

#587 Aug 13, 2014
DebraE wrote:
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Ahhh, I doubt "IT" will read these excellent articles and if IT does IT won't believe them. Some would rather read the right Rev. Billy Bubba and believe his latest white lightening induced prophetic vision. IT will lap it up like cream and feel blessed by the guiding hand of the Lawd.
"IT?" I'm crushed. Your idea of an excellent article is one that you agree with, the content is irrelevant.

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Since: Oct 07

Appleton WI

#588 Aug 13, 2014
SevenTee wrote:
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BS, people who choose homosexuality for their perversions are less than 3%.
Yes, in fact it's ZERO 0%, since no one chooses homosexuality and it is not a perversion to be homosexual.

However, if you mean to say that less than 3% of the general population are homosexual, I would ask you these questions...

1) What is your source for this number?

2) Can you verify that it is correct, or is it just an estimate?

3) If it's an estimate, what data is it based on?

4) What does it matter?

5) Do you believe equal rights only belong to majorities?

6) Are you so bothered by the reality that gays and lesbians are everywhere in larger numbers than you are confortable with that you must squint your eyes and wish really hard that their numbers are really small and insignificant?

“abstractions of thought...”

Since: Apr 08

Location hidden

#589 Aug 13, 2014
SevenTee wrote:
BS, people who choose homosexuality for their perversions are less than 3%.
People don't choose their sexual orientation, ignorant *sswipe; it's innate. Your lies and hypocrisy, on the other hand, are a willful choice you make.

“Freedom and Liberty”

Since: Feb 09

Northern California

#590 Aug 13, 2014
lides wrote:
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Anyone who reads your posts sees that you are a delusional troll that argues both sides of any issue.
Own up to your own rhetoric Alan-troll.
If you write something worth responding to I will answer you, as long as you engage in personal attacks I will step over your posts like I step over dog shit on the sidewalk.

If you ever find something to show liberty and freedom are not the answer, just post it.

“Freedom and Liberty”

Since: Feb 09

Northern California

#591 Aug 13, 2014
One_s enough wrote:
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I'm thinking that polygamy is illegal for the dire mess it would make of any kind of book keeping or legal matters. What kind of insurance policies would one buy? Who'd file the taxes, or what kind of will would be prepared? Whose responsibility would the children be? Finally, in the event of Big Daddy dying, who would be the heir? Can you imagine the wrangling? Which child would be looked after? It's tough enough with siblings of ONE traditional union, imagine dealing with 4 or 5 moms and 12-15 siblings from the mob at will reading.
Polygamy is most probably rife with abuse, if not physical, emotional. I am pretty sure that 99.99% of polygamists are male dominated. I have never head of a woman marrying many husbands. It is another male dominated experience.
For a woman to place herself into such a situation does NOT say much about her self esteem if she wants to be a cypher in a "relationship". She might as well be a crew member or part of a team, for all the loving support she may gain. Of course the man would find a woman who'd be needy enough to enter into this mess for a woman with some real self worth would never sign on for such a role. You know Big Daddy is going to have a favorite wife and the others will be neglected or given inferior roles to fill, someone has to scrub toilets!
It is their problem not yours. Quite honestly you need to find something else to worry about.

There are women who have two husbands, maybe not legally but in fact.

Polygamists see things differently then you do. They relate to each other differently then you do. All your concerns are really non-issues, and if they should become an issue they will find their own solution.

My grandfather and my two grandmothers got along better than most all the married people I even met.

Wait until we find a man who wants two wives and each of his two wives want two husbands each. Try and do that math? And not being able to do the math does not mean people should be prevented from doing the peaceful things they want to do with other consenting adults.

The easiest solution in all of this is to mind your own business and live a good life.

“Common sense prevails.”

Since: Mar 14

3rd rock from the sun.

#592 Aug 13, 2014
Wondering wrote:
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I thought you wanted to learn something. I was wrong.
I already have both by research and sitting and talking with GLBT family and friends, it's a shame you refuse to learn and grow.

“No Headline available”

Since: Jan 08

Defiance, Ohio

#593 Aug 14, 2014
Wondering wrote:
Your idea of an excellent article is one that you agree with, the content is irrelevant.
Notice how you are incapable of pointing toward any article that would refute the studies cited. One could infer that your are incapable of offering a factually supported defense of your opinion.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#594 Aug 14, 2014
Reverend Alan wrote:
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The very same Constitutional rights you are thrilled about stopping other people from exercising. You want to place yourself on a pedestal and pick and choose for humanity who can get married and who can't based on your personal prejudices and fears.
For the last two years you have been trying to convince me that Government exists to give equal treatment to some while restricting the free exercise of rights to others: you call that equality; You want some people to give up certain things so others can have things they wouldn't have otherwise. And that makes you a fascist and fascists are actually worse than liberals.
You have been very clear about it all Sheepie, you have been honest and out front about being a Gay Nazi. You want to control everyone because you like and approve of less than 1/10th of 1 percent of the population. You feel you need to control people because they are too stupid to live their lives as you would like them to live. These are all your ideas not mine, I am just repeating here what you have insisted upon for the last two years. So don't attack me for repeating your words.
Blah, blah, blah,......(insert typical anarchist gibberish here).....

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#595 Aug 14, 2014
Reverend Alan wrote:
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I know polygamists, I have told you my grandfather was a Mormon and I had two grandmothers so my own personal experiences with polygamy is extensive. I grew up with it and it is quite natural and normal, just like homosexuality is.
You are as insane as the anti-gay marriage homophobes who make up problems to blame on gay marriage hoping to deceive people and get them to rally against the peaceful activities of consenting adults who want to exercise their right to marry someone of the same sex.
And like the homophobes, when a peaceful relationship between consenting adults is mentioned you bring in murder, rape and other wrong doing just to flame the discussion and to derail it.
There is really something terribly wrong with you Sheepie.
Nope, I just have legitimate questions as to how legalized polygamy would work within our current framework of state & federal family law.

No one has been able to address those simple questions and the direct conflicts with the rights of others they would create.

Actually I'm just like the overwhelming majority of Americans who understand polygamy is a misogynistic institution which is harmful to women & children.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#596 Aug 14, 2014
Reverend Alan wrote:
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What is "unrealistice" to you is completely normal and natural to others, just like homosexuality is completely normal and natural to all thinking people and only unacceptable to bigots and fear mongers.
It is your power and control issues that are not American Sheepie. Why so many accept you placing yourself on a pedestal to micromanage the lives of peaceful consenting adults is a bit of a mystery to me. No one needs your two cents forced on them about their marriage. What you do here, advocating against the peaceful activities of consenting adults is criminal, it is part of a crime against humanity. And not only are you proud of violating the rights of others you brag about it when you are successful at it.
With "friends" like you marriage freedom does not need any enemies.
Nope, we're following the US Constitution.

You advocate gutting it for Rev Al's Anarchyland.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#597 Aug 14, 2014
Reverend Alan wrote:
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You demand those who want to have a same sex marriage be treated as those who want to have an opposite sex marriage, but you advocate against all marriage that involves more than two people because you are a control freak who loves to micromanage the lives of peaceful consenting adults.
You have what you want and you still advocate that other peaceful consenting adults be denied what they want because you do not approve of them. How Rick Sanatorium of you.
Nope, I simply demand that all marriages be treated equally under the law.

If polygamy is ever legalized, then I will demand that their marriages are treated equally under the law as well.

Of course, that's part of the problem- it's impossible for a polygamist marriage to be treated equally under the law because of the direct conflict with existing rights under family law- i.e. spousal rights, parentage, inheritance, etc, etc.

Whether I approve or disapprove of them is completely irrelevant.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#598 Aug 14, 2014
Wondering wrote:
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All things are never equal. Is "gay adoption" when a family adopts a gay kid or did you mean something else? I can tell you that I'm very happy I wasn't adopted by a gay couple. I grew up in the city and that would have made me a target for bullying.
Gee, then you're probably just as happy you weren't adopted by a black family or an Asian family or a Hispanic family or a Jewish family, etc, etc, etc.

If only everyone could grow up in a family where they're a member of the privileged majority...

“No Headline available”

Since: Jan 08

Defiance, Ohio

#599 Aug 14, 2014
WeTheSheeple wrote:
No one has been able to address those simple questions and the direct conflicts with the rights of others they would create.
Perhaps because Alan is to disingenuous to admit that polygamy does not seek equality under the law, but rather a new an greater legal protection?

Alan is a troll, and his regular and predictable return to the utterly irrelevant argument of polygamy is due to his inability to offer a rational, factually supported, and on topic argument.

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