Twinkies maker Hostess plans to go out of business

Nov 16, 2012 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: Reuters

As President Barack Obama and congressional leaders prepared for budget and tax talks on Friday aimed at preventing the economy from falling back into recession, a top Republican vowed to overhaul the U.S. tax code next year.

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I'm not interested in your off-topic, cross posted spam, SS.
Neither you nor Obama are interested in facts, only distortion.

No 'Drama' Obama Wants to Raise 'Debt Limit Without Drama or Delay'...

'I will not play that game'...Obama: You won’t pull the constitution on me……I won’t stand for it.
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lefraudbo, still waiting for rugby's facts about his ability to create jobs....oh, nevermind, he couldn't create one for himself.

Bwahahahahahahahahaha
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he has a fascination with gay sex. That is because his parents failed him. His dad was long gone and momma drank heavily and abused him. He never learned to be a man. So he thinks a debate involves gay insults and somehow that proves his point. All it proves is he is a lowlife with no character.
The guy is clearly disturbed to carry on the way he does,for as long as he has.
I think he was just born rotten,it happens.
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<quoted text>The guy is clearly disturbed to carry on the way he does,for as long as he has.
I think he was just born rotten,it happens.
he is the typical liberal. He acts like a spoiled child with no training in how to behave. He surely hasn't had proper parenting.

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au contraire wrote:
<quoted text>Neither you nor Obama are interested in facts, only distortion.
Why not narrow down your aliases to just one and then you can try to lecture about lies and distortions?

PS: Obama won, it was in all the papers.

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He surely hasn't had proper parenting.
You have had proper training, Kneepads, and see how you turned out, you ignorant bigoted hate monger.

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he has a fascination with gay sex. That is because his parents failed him. His dad was long gone and momma drank heavily
You don't know who your dad is, except he was a sailor, he squinted, and he smelled of spinach, Kneepads, because you mother did it with any that had two dollars and a 40 ounce beer...

Arrrg argg argg argg... tell her I said hi.
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Are you suggesting that the Baker's Union wouldn't negotiate? Sorry but I was there. The hedge funds refused to negotiate outside of bankruptcy court. They wrote their own contract with no Union input and then went to the judge and asked for permission to IMPOSE the deal without having ever discussed it with the Union. The strike was threatened in order to force the company to negotiate outside of court. They refused and we followed through on the strike. Cause and effect is not up to your opinion.
Also, there is no significant UAW workers at Hostess. You mean the Teamsters and if you think less than 3000 votes out of 8500 possible means the Teamsters were "more than willing" then you aren't paying attention. I know every Teamster at the Bakery (at least 40) I work at and I never heard a Teamster say they would vote for the contract. In fact, everyone expected them to turn it down and the most surprised people were the Teamsters themselves. The Engineering Unions also turned it down.
Facts matter. The Baker's were right and the vast majority of workers agreed in EVERY Union. I would never believe that less than 3000 should overrule the rest of the 18,500, but maybe you do.
From what I've read, there are a dozen unions at Hostess. I also read where the Teamsters were trying to convince the Bakers union to reconsider the offer from Hostess. Lower paying work is better than no work. All other unions besides the Bakers were on the fence.

Unions in this country have been losing members and steam over the years. When people read how the unions closed down Hostess, how do you suppose people look at unions--even the ones who were pro-union?

In the real world where people don't have unions, workers try to work with the company to keep them open. I know we had to work with our boss when times were bad. We worked many less hours and didn't see raises in years. He even cut down our medical benefits to bare bone.
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It's the only way you can take anything, run your ignorant mouth and claim victory over the internet.
You win a lot of arguments after the wife has gone to sleep, eh, Jimbo?
When one person (ME) challenges someone (YOU) to debate an issue and that someone (YOU) runs like a coward and hides behind excuses then victory is not only claimed but achieved.

You are pathetic, weak, and completely clueless about anything.

Why are you even on here?
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I have had proper training, Kneepads, and see how I turned out, I am an ignorant clueless no life troll.
Couldn't agree more!!!
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Couldn't agree more!!!
loL! Can you post the link to this quote? It will say a lot about your "style" of debating...

... as would a non response!

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From what I've read, there are a dozen unions at Hostess.
You can't read.

Typical ta baggery: the company is run into the freaking managers who triple their salaries and who made every single decision that ran the company into the ground with a two billion dollar debt but it is somehow the fault of the unions for not allowing the people getting raises to cut their salary in half.

The real question is: why aren't the managers in jail?

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When one person (ME) challenges someone (YOU) to debate an issue
Debate?

You donglicking P*, you aren't interested in a debate, you interested in ranting and raving and me watching you perform.

I got better things to do, you f*king lost, the yellow coward p* Romney lost, I have no interest in debating whether or not you lost: YOU LOST, STFU , you whiny-azzed fruit.
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Unions made Hostess go out of business
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Twinkies Maker Hostess Going Out of Business, CEO Blames Union Strike
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When people read how the unions closed down Hostess,
People like me will be there to remind them that the CEO was tripling his salary to $2.5 million dollars a year when he was demanding that the people who loaded the trucks and who did the actual work- the baking- cut their salary in half, and people would ask: who made the decision that ran the company into the ground, the CEO who was making $2.5 million, or the person pouring flour into the mixer making $28,000 a year?

And of course the answer be: the CEO making $2.5 million.
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Shame On The Gluttonous Bakery Union Members, Blasted Twinkie Killers
http://www.forbes.com/sites/markhendrickson/2...
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it is possible that Hostess has been living on borrowed time. Tastes have been gradually shifting to healthier foods and Hostess’ complex financial structure (372 collective-bargaining agreements, 80 health and benefit plans, and 40 pension plans, according to The Wall Street Journal)
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Debate?
You donglicking P*, you aren't interested in a debate, you interested in ranting and raving and me watching you perform.
I got better things to do, you f*king lost, the yellow coward p* Romney lost, I have no interest in debating whether or not you lost: YOU LOST, STFU , you whiny-azzed fruit.
Awwwww, poor baby, throwing a temper tantrum. I called you out on your bullshit; your unproven, no facts, no sources, load of crap and all you have done is whine, cry, make excuses as to why you can't explain, or defend, your stupidity. You know you can't. You know it is severely flawed logic. You know if you even try I will destroy your B.S. and do it easily. You already proved you don't know the first damn thing you are talking about when you said rich pay less taxes on capital gains then everyone else. You are so clueless you did not know it is the same 15% for EVERYONE.

I didn't lose, I made you run away scared like you are still doing. I consider that "another Liberal ass kicked"!!! Posting your whiny, snotty, temper trantrum doesn't change it.

Step up bigmough. Quit talking smack and explain your point of view. I know you won't though, you just aren't smart enough little lady.
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People like me will be there to remind them that the CEO was tripling his salary to $2.5 million dollars a year when he was demanding that the people who loaded the trucks and who did the actual work- the baking- cut their salary in half, and people would ask: who made the decision that ran the company into the ground, the CEO who was making $2.5 million, or the person pouring flour into the mixer making $28,000 a year?
And of course the answer be: the CEO making $2.5 million.
Whether the CEO, or anyone else did that crap remains to be seen. In this case, the union got what they deserved. Thanks to those 2,000 morons 16,000 other people who had nothing to do with it lost their jobs. They tried to act like selfish crybaby spoiled brats (much like you do on here) and they cost many others their jobs.

Unions, much like you, are worthless idiots!!!

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