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Obama: willing to work with House on immigration reform

There are 998 comments on the Reuters story from Sep 17, 2013, titled Obama: willing to work with House on immigration reform. In it, Reuters reports that:

President Barack Obama said on Tuesday he could support the House of Representatives taking a piece-by-piece approach to changing immigration policy as long as key elements such as a "pathway to citizenship" for undocumented immigrants were included.

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Oldglory

Coachella, CA

#311 Nov 3, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
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This is another lie, you ignorant high school drop out.
Suffice to say: 100 percent of Americans are illegal aliens, immigrants, or have a heritage to immigrants.
Now I know you're off your rocker, Mr. Reconquista. Yes, many Americans do have LEGAL immigrant ancestors but so what? An illegal alien can't be an American aka U.S. citizen. So what's your point?
Oldglory

Coachella, CA

#312 Nov 3, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
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You are a liar.
The proof would be: the jobs are there and Americans aren't doing them.
Put on top of your lie- that Americans are willing to do them- is the fact that 75 percent AREN'T Americans.
And the 25 percent left that are: most are Latino, children of immigrants.
NO, YOU'RE THE LIAR! The employers that hire illegals only do so because they work cheaper. It has nothing to do with Americans being lazy and refusing to do those jobs for a fair wage. Many Americans lost their jobs to illegal aliens because of the above. Provide proof that illegals are working here because Americans are lazy. You can't because that is a big fat lie and you know it!!!! Who do you think did those jobs before millions of illegal aliens flooded our border? Are you really this stupid?

“A Nation of Legal Immigrants”

Since: Nov 07

Lake City Florida,/ Nebraska

#313 Nov 3, 2013
ActuaIIy wrote:
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Sure you were skippy...and I was a foot soldier at Bunker Hill
Right, and I laugh all the way to the bank when my Military retirement check comes in each month!!

Did I mention I have a Health care plan called "Tricare For Life"?

Life is good.

LOL!!!
Oldglory

Coachella, CA

#314 Nov 3, 2013
It is true that 61% of illegals here are Mexicans and another 14% are Latinos from other countries.

http://immigration.procon.org/view.resource.p...

“A Nation of Legal Immigrants”

Since: Nov 07

Lake City Florida,/ Nebraska

#315 Nov 3, 2013
Wheelchair Commando wrote:
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Cricket is an angry old man who comes here & disseminates hate on anything that's not white enough for him.

Don't worry... he has enough problems at home and is why he comes here to vent from the confinements of his wheel chair.
It would appear that your Colostomy Bag is Full” and running over!

LOL!!!

“A Nation of Legal Immigrants”

Since: Nov 07

Lake City Florida,/ Nebraska

#316 Nov 3, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
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And farmers hire illegal aliens to pick their crops- since more than

half that work their fields are illegal.
Source??

“A Nation of Legal Immigrants”

Since: Nov 07

Lake City Florida,/ Nebraska

#317 Nov 3, 2013
Jesus Malverde wrote:
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Demonstrating your ignorance again? The undocumented touches your foods from front end to literally when you shove it in your pie-hole. Who do you think packs meat? Boxes and loads and unloads your produce? The refrigeration, the transports, etc. etc. The restaurant workers, the cleaners, the cooks, etc., etc.
Right I saw some illegal aliens picking Corn in front of the Combine yesterday!!

LOL!!!

“A Nation of Legal Immigrants”

Since: Nov 07

Lake City Florida,/ Nebraska

#318 Nov 3, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
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You have done nothing for this country, you bloodsucking high school drop out.
'tis a shame that to be a citizen of this country, one really has to do absolutely nothing- which is the sum total of what you have done so far.
Yet people who risk their life to come here have to put up with ignorant bigoted parasites like you.
Just isn't fair, eh?
"Yet people who risk their life to come here"

Maybe they should come here the legal way like other immigrants do!

“A Nation of Legal Immigrants”

Since: Nov 07

Lake City Florida,/ Nebraska

#319 Nov 3, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
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You are a liar.

The proof would be: the jobs are there and Americans aren't doing them.

Put on top of your lie- that Americans are willing to do them- is the fact that 75 percent AREN'T Americans.

And the 25 percent left that are: most are Latino, children of immigrants.
A new report in USA Today finds that unemployed U.S. citizens continue to fill up jobs left vacant by immigration raids, particularly at meatpacking and poultry plants.

The reports says that plants impacted by the raids were
back up and running at full capacity within months of the raids.
Vanderbilt University professor Carol Swain said the raids were beneficial to the American workforce.

"Whenever there's an immigration raid, you find white, black and legal immigrant labor lining up to do those jobs that Americans will supposedly not do," Prof. Swain said in the USA Today article.

The USA Today report cites a study conducted by Steven Camarota at the Center for Immigration Studies that found Americans holding the majority of positions in fields that many claim are dominated by illegal aliens.

For more on this story, see USA Today.

http://www.numbersusa.com/content/news/septem...

You're welcome!
Oldglory

Coachella, CA

#320 Nov 3, 2013
We regular law abiding citizens didn't ask illegal aliens to touch our food in any way. It is against the law for them to be working here!!! There are unlimited H-2A visas for LEGAL, foreign crop pickers so no we don't need illegals to pick our food. Americans have always worked in restaurants, packing planets, etc. so no we don't need illegals to do those jobs either.

If the propaganda of the pro-illegals is really true that Americans are just too lazy to do those jobs then who did them before the arrival of illegal aliens? Why don't these employers hire legal immigrants then if Americans have no desire to do those jobs? Caught in their lies once again! They just can't stand to admit the truth that illegals get hired only because they work cheaper and increase their employers profits!

Interesting that the pro-illegals in here want the rich to get richer off of illegal alien slave labor and deny Americans a fair wage to do the same job.

Since: Feb 11

Location hidden

#321 Nov 3, 2013
Oldglory wrote:
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What I said is that only 3% of the entire illegal population here are picking crops.
Made up numbers mean nothing.

Nor are disingenuous numbers.

We are talking about harvesting food.

More than HALF the people that harvest the food you eat are illegal aliens. Of the remainder, most are directly related to the illegal aliens who are harvesting the food you eat.

Do stop pretending that 97 percent of the crop harvested is harvested by Americans - i.e., Americans would do the job if it was available to them.

That is a flat out lie.

If illegal aliens aren't there to harvest the crop, the crop rots in the field.

Like the tomato crop in Georgia when they decided to crack down and insist farmers have documentation of the people they hired.

And the farmers fixed that this year by not planting tomatoes.

Since: Jul 10

Location hidden

#322 Nov 3, 2013
Cricket 23 wrote:
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Right, and I laugh all the way to the bank when my Military retirement check comes in each month!!
Did I mention I have a Health care plan called "Tricare For Life"?
Life is good.
LOL!!!
Sure you do skippy, mine is a fortune seeing it was paid in silver.
Oldglory

Coachella, CA

#323 Nov 3, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
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Made up numbers mean nothing.
Nor are disingenuous numbers.
We are talking about harvesting food.
More than HALF the people that harvest the food you eat are illegal aliens. Of the remainder, most are directly related to the illegal aliens who are harvesting the food you eat.
Do stop pretending that 97 percent of the crop harvested is harvested by Americans - i.e., Americans would do the job if it was available to them.
That is a flat out lie.
If illegal aliens aren't there to harvest the crop, the crop rots in the field.
Like the tomato crop in Georgia when they decided to crack down and insist farmers have documentation of the people they hired.
And the farmers fixed that this year by not planting tomatoes.
Are you purposely just being dense? I said that only 3% of illegals are picking crops and the rest are doing jobs that Americans have always been willing to do. Once again, there are unlimited visas for LEGAL, foreign crop picks but these greedy growers/farmers choose illegal aliens to increase their profits instead. They have NO right to do that. What part of that isn't your pea brain getting?

Again, we regular law abiding Americans didn't ask illegal aliens to handle our food in any way. So they get no praise from me for breaking the law by doing so nor do their greedy employers!!

Where the hell did I say that 97% of crop pickers are Americans? Some of them are but the rest are legal immigrants on visas. Where did I say that millions of Americans would be willing to harvest crops? That's why we have the H-2A visas because most Americans aren't willing to do that for a living. Boy you really have a reading comprehension problem, don't you? What I also said is that of the entire illegal population that 97% are doing other jobs that Americans are willing to do. God almighty I think I am talking to a two year here.

If the crops rot in the field then the growers/farmers only have themselves to blame because again THERE ARE UNLIMITED H-2A VISAS FOR LEGAL, FOREIGN CROP PICKERS. DO YOU FINALLY GET IT NOW? GOOD LORD!!!!!!!!!!
guess who

Sterling, CO

#324 Nov 3, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
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This is another lie, you ignorant high school drop out.
Suffice to say: 100 percent of Americans are illegal aliens, immigrants, or have a heritage to immigrants.
I have seen the construction road jobs in colorado go to the fukin beaners. They work for shit wages and once they start taking over the jobs no white guy stands a chance of getting hired. Tell me I lie BEANER!!! You know it is true. But the worm has turned. Things are going to change and soon!!!
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too much

Roseville, MI

#326 Nov 3, 2013
Obama the liar speaks again.

Since: Feb 11

Location hidden

#327 Nov 3, 2013
Cricket 23 wrote:
Maybe they should come here the legal way like other immigrants do!
They do.

Putting aside the racist policies that allow access from Europe, and stranglehold on brown people coming in south of the border.

Since: Feb 11

Location hidden

#328 Nov 3, 2013
Oldglory wrote:
THERE ARE UNLIMITED H-2A VISAS FOR LEGAL, FOREIGN CROP PICKERS.!
You are a F*king liar.

H-2a VISAS are *sponsored* and *conditional*.

For ONE VISA slot to be opened, the sponsor has to agree to a rigid set of rules- rules farmers are not willing to meet: they must pay them fairly, that must provide livable housing, and they must provide transportation to and from work site.

I guess your boyfriend had his hands over your ears and was blocking off your air supply.

.
Jesus Malverde

United States

#329 Nov 3, 2013
Cricket 23 wrote:
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Right I saw some illegal aliens picking Corn in front of the Combine yesterday!!
LOL!!!
Gracias for acknowledgeing my point, gabacho.

Since: Feb 11

Location hidden

#330 Nov 3, 2013
Cricket 23 wrote:
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A new report in USA Today finds that unemployed U.S. citizens
(quote)
Is Deportation of Immigrants Good for American Workers?: A look at who gets the jobs after the raids

As employers are increasingly hesitant to fill their rolls with unauthorized workers as a result of heightened immigration enforcement, the use of prisoners, probationers, refugees, guest workers, and other especially vulnerable workers is on the rise. Bruce Farely, manager of the business development unit of Arizona Correctional Industries (ACI) says that ACI is “contacted almost daily” by companies that “are looking to inmate labor as a possible alternative" to undocumented labor (in Watkins 2011). Labor shortages in the agricultural sector brought on by a reduction of the undocumented labor force have led growers to seek prison labor in Arizona, Colorado, and Idaho (Battey 2007; Univision). In 2011, Georgia governor Nathan Deal said that filling available jobs with people on criminal probation is “a great partial solution” to labor shortages in the agricultural sector that are the result of restrictive immigration policy (Shoichet 2011). In Washington state, an agricultural company applied to import guest workers from Mexico after losing hundreds of undocumented employees to ICE audits (Preston 2010). Following a 2008 immigration raid of a meat processing plant in Postville, Iowa in which nearly 400 workers were arrested and deported, the plant hired homeless people, former drug addicts, and ex-prisoners to replace its undocumented workforce (Grey, Devlin and Goldsmith 2009). According to anthropologist Mark Grey (personal communication June 1, 2011), the high turnover of the new workforce led the Postville plant to subsequently recruit Somali and Burmese refugees, who now make up a large proportion of the plant’s workforce.

Accelerated immigration enforcement may thus be a boon to the employment prospects of other workers, but not to empowered minority working-class. In one telling example, a poultry-processing plant in Georgia lost two-thirds of its work force in the aftermath of a 2006 immigration raid. In response, the plant raised wages and recruited local African American workers to fill newly available jobs––a move that was initially touted as proof that labor shortages brought about by immigration enforcement would be a boon to African American workers. But the honeymoon was short-lived; the new work force expressed concerns about dangerous work conditions and questionable labor practices at the plant, leading one manager to conclude that they simply “do not want to work.” Rather than improve conditions and raise wages further, plant managers found new sources of pliant labor. They replaced their work force once again––this time with prison workers, Hmong refugees, and homeless people (Perez and Dade 2007). It seems that for plant managers,“wanting to work” means either tolerating poor working conditions or being powerless to do anything about them.

The common denominator of a work force composed of undocumented immigrants, refugees, prisoners, probationers, homeless people, guest workers, and drug addicts is a profound vulnerability that can easily translate into a “willingness” to do low wage, dangerous, or socially degraded work.

Since: Feb 11

Location hidden

#331 Nov 3, 2013
guess who wrote:
<quoted text>I have seen the construction road jobs in colorado go to the fukin beaners.!
What do you care as long as they continue to provide you income working behind the porta-potty, you limp-wristed fairy.

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