Global warming 'undeniable,' scientis...

Global warming 'undeniable,' scientists say

There are 35569 comments on the TwinCities.com story from Jul 29, 2010, titled Global warming 'undeniable,' scientists say. In it, TwinCities.com reports that:

Scientists from around the world are providing even more evidence of global warming, one day after President Barack Obama renewed his call for climate legislation.

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Kyle

Columbia City, IN

#30235 Oct 27, 2013
Mothra wrote:
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Dodge, weave and avoid.
Lame.
Actually, it was a devastating rebuttal. Naturally, your response is to dodge, weave, avoid, and project, project, project.

Care to address the problem of using dumbazz creatard arguments to deny climate science? Or would you prefer to dodge some more, denier scum?
Kyle

Columbia City, IN

#30236 Oct 27, 2013
Mothra wrote:
<quoted text>
Introduction to the Scientific Method
"Theories which cannot be tested... do not qualify as scientific theories."
http://teacher.nsrl.rochester.edu/phy_labs/ap...
They can be tested without real time, controlled, laboratory experiments. You may be dumb enough to think that they are the only way to test theories, bit thankfully most people are not.
Kyle

Columbia City, IN

#30237 Oct 27, 2013
Mothra wrote:
<quoted text>
I was citing a 'basic' course. Sorry if it was beyond you.
What is it with warmists that they have to find higher and higher authority figures to support their lunacy?
Must have really struck a cord.
LOL
You were using simplistic explanations to imply falsely that testing = only lab tests. Sorry that we're too smart to be impressed by such idiocy. What is it with denier scum that they have to resort to trickery and fallacious arguments to support their lunacy? You must have struck your head.
Kyle

Columbia City, IN

#30238 Oct 27, 2013
Mothra wrote:
<quoted text>
I was citing a 'basic' course. Sorry if it was beyond you.
What is it with warmists that they have to find higher and higher authority figures to support their lunacy?
Must have really struck a cord.
LOL
(Oops; forgot)

LOL!
litesong

Everett, WA

#30239 Oct 27, 2013
litesong wrote:
"motheaten" avoided science & mathematics degrees, dodged around science, chemistry, astronomy & physics courses, & avoided algebra & pre-calc in its poorly earned hi skule DEE-plooomaa.......... & motheaten is mathematically & scientifically lame.
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motheaten muffed:
talking to yourself only confirms my opinion.
loon.
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litesong wrote:
Hear the convincing, pure, true, & even loud cries of the Loon, which are heard by many:

"motheaten" avoided science & mathematics degrees, dodged around science, chemistry, astronomy & physics courses, & avoided algebra & pre-calc in its poorly earned hi skule DEE-plooomaa. motheaten confirms its opinion is scientifically & mathematically lame.
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dont drink the koolaid

Savage, MN

#30241 Oct 28, 2013
Kyle wrote:
<quoted text>Wrong! And you know it's wrong because it's been explained - directly to you - many, many times. That illustrates both primary traits of denier scum:
One more time - so that you can undoubtedly ignore it or hand wave it away one more time: Much of the most rock solid science in existence is not subject to real time, controlled, laboratory experiments. They're based on 'natural experiments'.!
Yes, many, many, times it has been explained by many many different authorities including Kevin Trenberth, Gavin Schmidt, and the UNIPCC.

Global warming "IS UNDENIABLE" but...

Carbon Dioxide (Man made or otherwise) is not the primary driver of surface temperatures as clearly demonstrated by observations for the better part of the last two decades. The experts explained it many times: CO2 has been rising unabated but global average temperature measurements have not.

If one wishes to deny this FACT take your complaints to the experts.

Since: Apr 08

"the green troll"

#30242 Oct 28, 2013
dont drink the koolaid wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes, many, many, times it has been explained by many many different authorities including Kevin Trenberth, Gavin Schmidt, and the UNIPCC.
Global warming "IS UNDENIABLE" but...
Carbon Dioxide (Man made or otherwise) is not the primary driver of surface temperatures as clearly demonstrated by observations for the better part of the last two decades. The experts explained it many times: CO2 has been rising unabated but global average temperature measurements have not.
If one wishes to deny this FACT take your complaints to the experts.
Ignorant, misinformed and unthinking, as usual.

There are many drivers of surface temperature apart from CO2: solar output, aerosols, ocean circulation, volcanic activity.

All of those have been negative for the period you mention: they should have caused cooling.

The fact that temperatures have continued to rise demonstrates that CO2 is the primary driver.

Or it would to anybody with a brain, an organ you are sadly lacking.
dont drink the koolaid

Savage, MN

#30243 Oct 28, 2013
Fair Game wrote:
<quoted text>
Ignorant, misinformed and unthinking, as usual.
There are many drivers of surface temperature apart from CO2: solar output, aerosols, ocean circulation, volcanic activity.
All of those have been negative for the period you mention: they should have caused cooling.
The fact that temperatures have continued to rise demonstrates that CO2 is the primary driver.
Or it would to anybody with a brain, an organ you are sadly lacking.
All valid points that are best addressed to the EXPERTS because it is clear that the aforementioned drivers are a major factor in surface temps. The issue is with the EXPERTS that observed the "hiatus" or "pause". It appears necessary to explain it to THEM so they can 'adjust' THEIR findings to fit your view.

Post Script:
It may not be productive and is clearly unscientific to insult those better informed when attempting to convince them they should reinterpret their findings.
gcaveman1

Bay Springs, MS

#30244 Oct 28, 2013
Mothra wrote:
<quoted text>
Nope. I've seen your posts.
You're a jackass.
'nuf said.
Enough said, indeed.

He is a jackass because he defeats you at every turn.

He is a jackass because he is rational and informed.

He is a jackass because you can't dispute the science.

You call Kyle a name because....that's all you have.

I think you're the jackass.

Since: Apr 08

"the green troll"

#30245 Oct 28, 2013
dont drink the koolaid wrote:
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All valid points that are best addressed to the EXPERTS because it is clear that the aforementioned drivers are a major factor in surface temps. The issue is with the EXPERTS that observed the "hiatus" or "pause". It appears necessary to explain it to THEM so they can 'adjust' THEIR findings to fit your view.
Post Script:
It may not be productive and is clearly unscientific to insult those better informed when attempting to convince them they should reinterpret their findings.
This is not a polite debate.

It is smart people pointing out to less smart people how poorly informed they are.

I'm not one of the really smart people, but you are without doibt one of the dumbest.

Post your dumb, ignorant and misinformed views here, and expect people with a brain to tell you how dumb, ignorant and misinformed you are.
litesong

Everett, WA

#30246 Oct 28, 2013
drink the KKK-aid wrote:
Carbon Dioxide (Man made or otherwise) is not the primary driver of surface temperatures........If one wishes to deny this FACT take your complaints to the experts.
The experts(climate scientists) know that present global warming is a combination of natural effects, AND the warming from additional atmospheric amounts of man-made infra-red energy absorbing non-phase change GHGs, which also control amounts of atmospheric infra-red energy absorbing, phase change water vapor.

Of course, "drink the KKK-aid" is on the sidelines drinking the KKK-aid.
Mothra

United States

#30247 Oct 28, 2013
gcaveman1 wrote:
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zealot
SpaceBlues

Houston, TX

#30248 Oct 28, 2013
dont drink the koolaid wrote:
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..
If one wishes to deny this FACT take your complaints to the experts.
Since when is it science bent by the deniers of it? Learn some history of science.

In the meantime.. climate science progressses. From nature: Because extreme heatwaves happen only once every few years, the researchers turned to computer climate models to look for signals that foreshadow a severe hot spell. Led by Haiyan Teng, a climate scientist at the National Center for Atmospheric Research in Boulder, Colorado, the scientists examined 2,300 heatwaves from 12,000 years’ worth of simulated US weather.

The analysis revealed that major heatwaves were four times more likely to develop after a strong wavenumber-5 system formed at mid-latitudes. Teng says that this particular pattern can stagnate, leading to slow-moving high-pressure zones that can produce prolonged heat.

Advance warnings of heatwaves would be especially useful in large cities, says Marshall Shepherd, an atmospheric scientist at the University of Georgia in Athens.“Heat waves can be particularly amplified in urban areas,” he says.“If you had a couple of weeks notice, you could mobilize cooling stations and adjust resources to mitigate mortality and morbidity,” and power companies could plan for increased demand driven by air-conditioner use.
gcaveman1

Bay Springs, MS

#30249 Oct 28, 2013
Mothra wrote:
<quoted text>
zealot
I am a zealot because I defeat you at every turn.

I am a zealot because I am rational and informed.

I am a zealot because you can't dispute the science.

You call me a zealot because....that's all you have.

I think you're the zealot, for the wrong cause.
Mothra

United States

#30250 Oct 28, 2013
gcaveman1 wrote:
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Life's too short to worry what what zealots say.

I prefer to ignore them.

Run along.
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“BET DAP”

Since: Feb 09

GOOM BOWN

#30252 Oct 28, 2013
What useful purpose will mitigating a portion of a trace gas which is a fractional part of atmospheric gases actually achieve?
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Mothra

United States

#30254 Oct 28, 2013
Bushwhacker wrote:
Bushwhacker wrote:
Oh look... a warmist parrot.

I know, I know... they're not rare or really worth noticing, but they invite mockery.

And that's fun!

LOL

“BET DAP”

Since: Feb 09

GOOM BOWN

#30255 Oct 28, 2013
Bushwhacker wrote:
What useful purpose have you served, except to prove the dishonesty your "group" displays ???
Pretty funny, you playing the moniker "game" so poorly.
It's almost like you're not equal to ANYONE here....
whats a moniker game, mutt?
SpaceBlues

Houston, TX

#30256 Oct 28, 2013
Bushwhacker wrote:
To mothy:

Life is too short to be you....
Run along.
Agreed. Actually, it is short on all aspects including physical, mental, etc.

It doesn't run along because it can't follow a map. LOL. But whines 24/7.
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Mothra

United States

#30258 Oct 28, 2013
SpaceBlues wrote:
<quoted text>Agreed. Actually, it is short on all aspects including physical, mental, etc.
It doesn't run along because it can't follow a map. LOL. But whines 24/7.
Of course the 'wannabe relevant' hypocrite chimes in.

Still trying to make a friend online, I see.

I notice you get little pats on the head when tote the warmists' propaganda, but they don't ever engage you at all.

Ever wonder why?

They are scared to death you'll ask them over to show off the "super cool" flight simulator you made from a refrigerator box.

They know a useful idiot when they see one and put up with your inanities for the 'cause'.

How pathetic you are.

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