Syria creates new headaches for GOP leaders

Sep 4, 2013 Full story: Northern Michigan News 20

President Barack Obama's proposal to bomb Syria is dividing both political parties as they cope with Iraq war weariness and, in the GOP, the rise of libertarian sentiment.

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Don Joe

Minneapolis, MN

#1 Sep 4, 2013
Headaches for GOP leaders???? Just do what you are told and shut up.

Since: Sep 08

Location hidden

#2 Sep 4, 2013
headaches? Murdered woman and children all over the place in this day and age. Taking so long to determine if the people was GASSED?
Enough warnings for Syria to prepare for war, and watch the debacle in Congress for those who want more proof.
THOSE THAT WANT MORE PROOF SHOULD BE SENT TO SYRIA, LET THEM LIVE WITH THE PEOPLE WHO LOST LOVED ONES, LET THEM SMELL DEATH, TAKING DEEP BREATHES AND LET ME KNOW WHAT THEY THINK TWO WEEKS LATER.
BY THEN MANY MORE WILL BE KILLED.
COUNTRIES THAT DO NOT SUPPORT US MUST ONCE AGAIN BE LAUGHING AT US.
AN EDUCATION TO THE REST OF THE WORLD OF HOW MUCH YOU CAN GET AWAY WITH.
LIKE NORTH KOREA WHO HAS PRISON CAMPS FOR DECADES.
CONDUCTING EXPERIMENTS ON THEIR OWN PEOPLE.
YES RADIATION EXPERIMENTS THAT IS SUPPOSED TO BE A SECRET.
WHO KNOWS WHAT ELSE GOES ON IN OTHER COUNTRIES TO.
BUT LETTING THE LEADERSHIP OF SYRIA GET AWAY WITH THIS WHILE THE WORLDS WATCHING AMERICA, THE ONCE STRONG COUNTRY TO ALL NOW LOOKING LIKE A SCARED RABBIT IN A FOREST.

A SIGN OF WEAKNESS. AND TO OTHER PREDATORS WATCHING, THEY MAY SAY TO THEMSELVES, WE KNOW LOOK MORE APPETIZING TO COME AFTER.

BETWEN OUR PRESIDENT, CONGRESS, UN INVESTIGATIONS, IT IS BEGINNING TO LOOK LIKE THE WWE WRESTLING SHOW.
A CIRCUS OF SORTS, WITH STUPIDITY, AND OUR CHILDREN'S FUTURES AT STAKE.
amcummer

Saint Paul, MN

#3 Sep 4, 2013
Headaches? They ought to be supporting rebels who gas their own people is one thing I would never do never nyet no.

“Open your eyes”

Since: Sep 09

Central Florida

#4 Sep 4, 2013
vicent wrote:
headaches? Murdered woman and children all over the place in this day and age. Taking so long to determine if the people was GASSED?
Enough warnings for Syria to prepare for war, and watch the debacle in Congress for those who want more proof.
THOSE THAT WANT MORE PROOF SHOULD BE SENT TO SYRIA, LET THEM LIVE WITH THE PEOPLE WHO LOST LOVED ONES, LET THEM SMELL DEATH, TAKING DEEP BREATHES AND LET ME KNOW WHAT THEY THINK TWO WEEKS LATER.
BY THEN MANY MORE WILL BE KILLED.
COUNTRIES THAT DO NOT SUPPORT US MUST ONCE AGAIN BE LAUGHING AT US.
AN EDUCATION TO THE REST OF THE WORLD OF HOW MUCH YOU CAN GET AWAY WITH.
LIKE NORTH KOREA WHO HAS PRISON CAMPS FOR DECADES.
CONDUCTING EXPERIMENTS ON THEIR OWN PEOPLE.
YES RADIATION EXPERIMENTS THAT IS SUPPOSED TO BE A SECRET.
WHO KNOWS WHAT ELSE GOES ON IN OTHER COUNTRIES TO.
BUT LETTING THE LEADERSHIP OF SYRIA GET AWAY WITH THIS WHILE THE WORLDS WATCHING AMERICA, THE ONCE STRONG COUNTRY TO ALL NOW LOOKING LIKE A SCARED RABBIT IN A FOREST.
A SIGN OF WEAKNESS. AND TO OTHER PREDATORS WATCHING, THEY MAY SAY TO THEMSELVES, WE KNOW LOOK MORE APPETIZING TO COME AFTER.
BETWEN OUR PRESIDENT, CONGRESS, UN INVESTIGATIONS, IT IS BEGINNING TO LOOK LIKE THE WWE WRESTLING SHOW.
A CIRCUS OF SORTS, WITH STUPIDITY, AND OUR CHILDREN'S FUTURES AT STAKE.
Wow. Propaganda much?

Look, there is the fact that Gas was used. But, by who? Was it Assad's forces? We don't know. You don't know, nobody knows. Was it Al Nusra under the banner of Assad to draw in the western powers? Possibly, but, nobody knows. There is no smoking gun.

Was the UN investigation a shitty investigation? Yep. Doubt anyone would argue with that.

So you are willing to send our men and women to fight a war that would not be just isolated in Syria and have them die in a foreign land all based on questionable information? Let me guess then, you are one of those that will then sit back and play arm chair QB right? You want the fight? Then go fight the fight. Lead the charge junior.

But looking at the gassing situation and action, one would have the ask the question, who benefits from the US interference? Does Assad? Nope. So if Assad does not benefit from this situation, why would he do it? He would have to be absolutely insane for that. And based on the interviews and actions by Assad for the past 30 years, I would say that he is not insane.

Would Al-Nusra benefit? Absolutely.

First though, one has to point out that the FSA is not AL Nusra and the rest of the rebel fights. The FSA are former soldiers and commanders from within the Syrian Army that saw the corruption and wanted a change. Al Nusra is in Syria on behalf of Saudi Arabia and Qatar. The US Media has manipulated the information in order to combine all of these under the banner of the FSA. Which is not true.

Al Nusra would benefit from US intervention because they are losing to Assad. What a better way to even the playing field by having the US come in and commit strategic strikes to weaken Assad's military. Just like they did in Libya.

You do realize that this pending war in Syria is nothing more than a way to start a larger war with Iran through Syria's and Iran's defensive pact?

Here is some food for though. Why don't you look into what happened with Assad before this revolt. Follow the money. The money leads you to Saudi Arabia and Qatar. It was Assad that told both countries no in running a natural gas pipeline through Syria and into Turkey and Europe.
Eleanor

Mundelein, IL

#5 Sep 4, 2013
Should Obama take military action AGAINST SYRIA, he will be guilty of the CRIME OF AGRESSION as defined by the International Criminal Court.

"An act of aggression is defined as the use of armed force by one State against another State without the justification of self-defense or authorization by the Security Council."

http://www.iccnow.org/...

He neither has authorization from the Security Council and there is no justification for self-defense!!

Obama AND all of Congress that approves such a measure risk being brought to the International Court for the crime of aggression against another country which is contrary to International Law.

“i hope we can change this!”

Since: Aug 08

usa

#6 Sep 4, 2013
looks more like the gop leaders are doing a bang-up job creating their own headaches...
Sgt Common Sense

Denver, CO

#7 Sep 4, 2013
vicent wrote:
headaches? Murdered woman and children all over the place in this day and age. Taking so long to determine if the people was GASSED?
Enough warnings for Syria to prepare for war, and watch the debacle in Congress for those who want more proof.
THOSE THAT WANT MORE PROOF SHOULD BE SENT TO SYRIA, LET THEM LIVE WITH THE PEOPLE WHO LOST LOVED ONES, LET THEM SMELL DEATH, TAKING DEEP BREATHES AND LET ME KNOW WHAT THEY THINK TWO WEEKS LATER.
BY THEN MANY MORE WILL BE KILLED.
COUNTRIES THAT DO NOT SUPPORT US MUST ONCE AGAIN BE LAUGHING AT US.
AN EDUCATION TO THE REST OF THE WORLD OF HOW MUCH YOU CAN GET AWAY WITH.
LIKE NORTH KOREA WHO HAS PRISON CAMPS FOR DECADES.
CONDUCTING EXPERIMENTS ON THEIR OWN PEOPLE.
YES RADIATION EXPERIMENTS THAT IS SUPPOSED TO BE A SECRET.
WHO KNOWS WHAT ELSE GOES ON IN OTHER COUNTRIES TO.
BUT LETTING THE LEADERSHIP OF SYRIA GET AWAY WITH THIS WHILE THE WORLDS WATCHING AMERICA, THE ONCE STRONG COUNTRY TO ALL NOW LOOKING LIKE A SCARED RABBIT IN A FOREST.
A SIGN OF WEAKNESS. AND TO OTHER PREDATORS WATCHING, THEY MAY SAY TO THEMSELVES, WE KNOW LOOK MORE APPETIZING TO COME AFTER.
BETWEN OUR PRESIDENT, CONGRESS, UN INVESTIGATIONS, IT IS BEGINNING TO LOOK LIKE THE WWE WRESTLING SHOW.
A CIRCUS OF SORTS, WITH STUPIDITY, AND OUR CHILDREN'S FUTURES AT STAKE.
Have you ever thought about drinking decaf?

Since: Mar 09

The Left Coast

#8 Sep 4, 2013
It would seem Obama is going to need a whole new set of speeches blaming someone for bringing up this red line thing. I vote for the 'Bush did it' excuse.
Mike

Zephyrhills, FL

#9 Sep 4, 2013
Looks like our "I don't need congress, I'll make an executive order" got called out. Now our Incompetent Coward wants congress to decide.

We need to stay out of this mess ...but our idiot in chief already looks like he crossed his own line. The world is laughing at us because of this idiot.
Barney

Saint Paul, MN

#10 Sep 4, 2013
vicent wrote:
headaches? Murdered woman and children all over the place in this day and age. Taking so long to determine if the people was GASSED?
Enough warnings for Syria to prepare for war, and watch the debacle in Congress for those who want more proof.
THOSE THAT WANT MORE PROOF SHOULD BE SENT TO SYRIA, LET THEM LIVE WITH THE PEOPLE WHO LOST LOVED ONES, LET THEM SMELL DEATH, TAKING DEEP BREATHES AND LET ME KNOW WHAT THEY THINK TWO WEEKS LATER.
BY THEN MANY MORE WILL BE KILLED.
COUNTRIES THAT DO NOT SUPPORT US MUST ONCE AGAIN BE LAUGHING AT US.
AN EDUCATION TO THE REST OF THE WORLD OF HOW MUCH YOU CAN GET AWAY WITH.
LIKE NORTH KOREA WHO HAS PRISON CAMPS FOR DECADES.
CONDUCTING EXPERIMENTS ON THEIR OWN PEOPLE.
YES RADIATION EXPERIMENTS THAT IS SUPPOSED TO BE A SECRET.
WHO KNOWS WHAT ELSE GOES ON IN OTHER COUNTRIES TO.
BUT LETTING THE LEADERSHIP OF SYRIA GET AWAY WITH THIS WHILE THE WORLDS WATCHING AMERICA, THE ONCE STRONG COUNTRY TO ALL NOW LOOKING LIKE A SCARED RABBIT IN A FOREST.
A SIGN OF WEAKNESS. AND TO OTHER PREDATORS WATCHING, THEY MAY SAY TO THEMSELVES, WE KNOW LOOK MORE APPETIZING TO COME AFTER.
BETWEN OUR PRESIDENT, CONGRESS, UN INVESTIGATIONS, IT IS BEGINNING TO LOOK LIKE THE WWE WRESTLING SHOW.
A CIRCUS OF SORTS, WITH STUPIDITY, AND OUR CHILDREN'S FUTURES AT STAKE.
I don't really care, if anything the gas was released by the muslim brotherhood terrorists, no matter who released it, it's none of our business, we have no reason to do ANYTHING in Syria, there are no good sides to join in Syria, we need to stay out of the mess and stop funding terrorists, Obama should be impeached for installing the muslim brotherhood terrorists in Egypt and Libya he no better than they are, look at the blood on his hands, this is what the muslims want, they know nothing but killing and death, we need to just leave them do as they please, until it can affect the US, then just nuke them from the face of the earth.
Really

Las Vegas, NV

#11 Sep 4, 2013
king obama, our black, muslim, illegal alien, chicago lawyer whom is NOT even an American is going to get America into all kinds of crap now.
No backing down after the 1st missile is launched. Now Syria has had time to get all their ducks in a row.
Moving military equipment and targets into the general population. All muslim cowards do this so it is no surprise.
NOW we have been watching the movements and have a better idea of where to bomb. Next will be a full blown war in the middle east. Get ready Americans.
Time for the draft to come back and get rid of all those cry baby hoodlums.
somebody

Delhi, India

#12 Sep 4, 2013
Barney wrote:
<quoted text>
I don't really care, if anything the gas was released by the muslim brotherhood terrorists, no matter who released it, it's none of our business, we have no reason to do ANYTHING in Syria, there are no good sides to join in Syria, we need to stay out of the mess and stop funding terrorists, Obama should be impeached for installing the muslim brotherhood terrorists in Egypt and Libya he no better than they are, look at the blood on his hands, this is what the muslims want, they know nothing but killing and death, we need to just leave them do as they please, until it can affect the US, then just nuke them from the face of the earth.
Hmm, Obama seems to have a soft spot for the Sunni groups. Seeing this in Iraq, and in Egypt as well as Syria. He seems to support more hardline sunni groups like Al Qaida Al Nusra etc, than most average sunni muslims would themselves support.

Since: Nov 08

Location hidden

#13 Sep 4, 2013
The Rinos are following the Coward that we call President.
Keep track and you will know who they are.
Gotel John

Noblesville, IN

#14 Sep 4, 2013
Eighthman wrote:
The Rinos are following the Coward that we call President.
Keep track and you will know who they are.
8ball! it's dat make US is the MOST Booteafool inda WORLD!!;)

Since: Nov 08

Location hidden

#15 Sep 4, 2013
RINOS Love Weiner too.

Since: Mar 09

The Left Coast

#16 Sep 4, 2013
Just in: Obama DID NOT mention a red line, the WORLD did. I missed it, but that's the latest report.

Since: Nov 08

Location hidden

#17 Sep 5, 2013
Mentally ill people are known to invent tall tales.
Obama is the tall tale champion.
.
"Got Angry Mob"
alan

Maringouin, LA

#18 Sep 6, 2013
vicent wrote:
headaches? Murdered woman and children all over the place in this day and age. Taking so long to determine if the people was GASSED?
Enough warnings for Syria to prepare for war, and watch the debacle in Congress for those who want more proof.
THOSE THAT WANT MORE PROOF SHOULD BE SENT TO SYRIA, LET THEM LIVE WITH THE PEOPLE WHO LOST LOVED ONES, LET THEM SMELL DEATH, TAKING DEEP BREATHES AND LET ME KNOW WHAT THEY THINK TWO WEEKS LATER.
BY THEN MANY MORE WILL BE KILLED.
COUNTRIES THAT DO NOT SUPPORT US MUST ONCE AGAIN BE LAUGHING AT US.
AN EDUCATION TO THE REST OF THE WORLD OF HOW MUCH YOU CAN GET AWAY WITH.
LIKE NORTH KOREA WHO HAS PRISON CAMPS FOR DECADES.
CONDUCTING EXPERIMENTS ON THEIR OWN PEOPLE.
YES RADIATION EXPERIMENTS THAT IS SUPPOSED TO BE A SECRET.
WHO KNOWS WHAT ELSE GOES ON IN OTHER COUNTRIES TO.
BUT LETTING THE LEADERSHIP OF SYRIA GET AWAY WITH THIS WHILE THE WORLDS WATCHING AMERICA, THE ONCE STRONG COUNTRY TO ALL NOW LOOKING LIKE A SCARED RABBIT IN A FOREST.
A SIGN OF WEAKNESS. AND TO OTHER PREDATORS WATCHING, THEY MAY SAY TO THEMSELVES, WE KNOW LOOK MORE APPETIZING TO COME AFTER.
BETWEN OUR PRESIDENT, CONGRESS, UN INVESTIGATIONS, IT IS BEGINNING TO LOOK LIKE THE WWE WRESTLING SHOW.
A CIRCUS OF SORTS, WITH STUPIDITY, AND OUR CHILDREN'S FUTURES AT STAKE.
why dont you get off your bleeding heart ass and go to Syria and do something if you feel so strongly about this?answer is because youre to yellow and want soldiers to do it?american soldiers can die for aholes like you and you chickenshit opinions!!
Cat74

Elgin, IL

#19 Sep 6, 2013
That is just it. We have no vital interests at stake. The rebels gassed the women, and children, Kerry, and Obama know it, but they want us involved so they can send arms to AlQaeda, and the Brotherhood.

Since: Sep 08

Location hidden

#20 Sep 7, 2013
Kahoki wrote:
<quoted text>
Wow. Propaganda much?
Look, there is the fact that Gas was used. But, by who? Was it Assad's forces? We don't know. You don't know, nobody knows. Was it Al Nusra under the banner of Assad to draw in the western powers? Possibly, but, nobody knows. There is no smoking gun.
Was the UN investigation a shitty investigation? Yep. Doubt anyone would argue with that.
So you are willing to send our men and women to fight a war that would not be just isolated in Syria and have them die in a foreign land all based on questionable information? Let me guess then, you are one of those that will then sit back and play arm chair QB right? You want the fight? Then go fight the fight. Lead the charge junior.
But looking at the gassing situation and action, one would have the ask the question, who benefits from the US interference? Does Assad? Nope. So if Assad does not benefit from this situation, why would he do it? He would have to be absolutely insane for that. And based on the interviews and actions by Assad for the past 30 years, I would say that he is not insane.
Would Al-Nusra benefit? Absolutely.
First though, one has to point out that the FSA is not AL Nusra and the rest of the rebel fights. The FSA are former soldiers and commanders from within the Syrian Army that saw the corruption and wanted a change. Al Nusra is in Syria on behalf of Saudi Arabia and Qatar. The US Media has manipulated the information in order to combine all of these under the banner of the FSA. Which is not true.
Al Nusra would benefit from US intervention because they are losing to Assad. What a better way to even the playing field by having the US come in and commit strategic strikes to weaken Assad's military. Just like they did in Libya.
You do realize that this pending war in Syria is nothing more than a way to start a larger war with Iran through Syria's and Iran's defensive pact?
Here is some food for though. Why don't you look into what happened with Assad before this revolt. Follow the money. The money leads you to Saudi Arabia and Qatar. It was Assad that told both countries no in running a natural gas pipeline through Syria and into Turkey and Europe.
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