Ukraine Says Russia Has Invaded

There are 20 comments on the Wall Street Journal story from Aug 29, 2014, titled Ukraine Says Russia Has Invaded. In it, Wall Street Journal reports that:

Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko said Russian forces had entered Ukraine and seized the coastal town of Novoazovsk, putting a diplomatic response to the crisis in doubt.

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Cordwainer Trout

Elizabethtown, KY

#42 Aug 30, 2014
Pro Ukraine wrote:
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Are you so stupid you believe he cares about civilians? It's about empire building he wants to recreate novorossiya, but stara Ukraina will have something to say about that!
Typical Nazi type propaganda... dehumanize your opponent, call them rats, vermin, or assert they don't care about other human beings. Don't pay attention to the huge food convoys sent to help, nor the recent order to give refugees from Kiev's horror imposed on the citizens of Eastern Ukraine. You sick monsters don't realize your leadership in Kiev has been recorded calling for the extermination of Jews and Russians in Eastern Ukraine.
Cordwainer Trout

Elizabethtown, KY

#43 Aug 30, 2014
"to give refugees from Kiev's horror imposed on the citizens of Eastern Ukraine" should read...
"to give refugees from Kiev's horror imposed on the citizens of Eastern Ukraine social support and security in Russia."

It won't be permanent, as Kiev will lose its coup government in Kiev and the refugees in Russia will be repatriated back to Ukraine.
George

Red Deer, Canada

#44 Aug 30, 2014
Putin does not realize how stupid he looks to the world. He keeps claiming that their are no troops in Ukraine, they are just volunteers or troops on holidays and we have no control of that, what a joke.

Russia must have no problem with social networking with all the volunteers in Russia.

Someone should ask then if he supports Ukraine arresting these terrorists that invaded Ukraine and see if he supports Ukraine or terrorism, maybe if enough body bags arrive back in Russia he will reconcider.
George

Red Deer, Canada

#45 Aug 30, 2014
Cordwainer Trout wrote:
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Typical Nazi type propaganda... dehumanize your opponent, call them rats, vermin, or assert they don't care about other human beings. Don't pay attention to the huge food convoys sent to help, nor the recent order to give refugees from Kiev's horror imposed on the citizens of Eastern Ukraine. You sick monsters don't realize your leadership in Kiev has been recorded calling for the extermination of Jews and Russians in Eastern Ukraine.
Do you realize how stupid you sound. These terrorists are invading Ukraine WTF right do they have and how comical to respect the corridor they want to make, just blow the shit out of them and save the world from some more terrorists.

Dehumanize your opponent??? you mean like calling them Nazi??? idiot
Ethan Allen

Waterbury, VT

#46 Aug 30, 2014
George wrote:
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Do you realize how stupid I sound?
Yes, we're all quite aware of it, George.
Ethan Allen

Waterbury, VT

#47 Aug 30, 2014
George wrote:
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Dehumanize your opponent??? you mean like calling them Nazi??? idiot
The Azov Battalion considers it a privilege to be called that. They're quite proud of it in fact, as their multiple tattoos attest to.

Using the term 'dehumanize' here is completely out of context.
Cordwainer Trout

Elizabethtown, KY

#48 Aug 30, 2014
George wrote:
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Do you realize how stupid you sound. These terrorists are invading Ukraine WTF right do they have and how comical to respect the corridor they want to make, just blow the shit out of them and save the world from some more terrorists.
Dehumanize your opponent??? you mean like calling them Nazi??? idiot
Nazis are human, but you freaks try to say Putin doesn't care about civilians. The point is made and it scares you.

Many thousands of refugees from Eastern Ukraine fleeing the Kiev bombardments. Proven heavy artillery shelling by Kiev forces on cities for some form of punishment (against international law and clearly a crime against humanity.) You don't see Putin doing that. You don't see the Russian people of Ukraine doing that. What you do see and hear are calls to ethnic cleansing from the monstrous criminals in Kiev, whom you support, even with ALL the verifiable information showing your beliefs are false.
Ethan Allen

Waterbury, VT

#49 Aug 30, 2014
Here you go, ye old doubter:

Ukraine crisis: the neo-Nazi brigade fighting pro-Russian separatists

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/eur...
Ethan Allen

Waterbury, VT

#50 Aug 30, 2014
In fact, that whole damn troublemaker of a country, Ukraine is just one really bad episode from the Twilight Zone:

Jewish mafia oligarchs hiring neo-nazi militias to go to war to recover their lost business deals. Then hiring the son of an American vice-president for window dressing. Egad!

It just don't get more surreal than that, my friend.

"The Azov Battalion is one of four battalions formed by Ihor Kolomoisky, who is the second richest oligarch of Ukraine. He is supposedly the organizer of the Odessa Massacre on May 2."

Here is one of their nifty patches:

http://files.abovetopsecret.com/files/img/pi5...
Ethan Allen

Waterbury, VT

#51 Aug 30, 2014
Cordwainer Trout wrote:
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Nazis are human, but you freaks try to say Putin doesn't care about civilians. The point is made and it scares you.
Many thousands of refugees from Eastern Ukraine fleeing the Kiev bombardments. Proven heavy artillery shelling by Kiev forces on cities for some form of punishment (against international law and clearly a crime against humanity.) You don't see Putin doing that. You don't see the Russian people of Ukraine doing that. What you do see and hear are calls to ethnic cleansing from the monstrous criminals in Kiev, whom you support, even with ALL the verifiable information showing your beliefs are false.
I think George is probably a neo-Nazi. He seems to start posting in double time every time they become a topic header.
Pro Ukraine

UK

#52 Aug 30, 2014
Cordwainer Trout wrote:
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Typical Nazi type propaganda... dehumanize your opponent, call them rats, vermin, or assert they don't care about other human beings. Don't pay attention to the huge food convoys sent to help, nor the recent order to give refugees from Kiev's horror imposed on the citizens of Eastern Ukraine. You sick monsters don't realize your leadership in Kiev has been recorded calling for the extermination of Jews and Russians in Eastern Ukraine.
Putin doesn't care about anything or anybody but himself.
Huge food convoys? According to reports those trucks only contained sleeping bags and water along with weapons and Russian troops.
"Leadership in Kyiv has been recorded calling for the extermination of Jews and Russians in Eastern Ukraine"? That is pure Kremlin propaganda, do you seriously expect anybody to believe that? What an idiot!
Pro Ukraine

UK

#53 Aug 30, 2014
Ethan Allen wrote:
Here you go, ye old doubter:
Ukraine crisis: the neo-Nazi brigade fighting pro-Russian separatists
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/eur...
Nazis* fighting nazis*, I already posted evidence that the Russian terrorists are all members of extreme fascist organisations.
Pro Ukraine

UK

#54 Aug 30, 2014
Ethan Allen wrote:
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I think George is probably a neo-Nazi. He seems to start posting in double time every time they become a topic header.
You're the one who's obsessed with nazis*, you mention them in every single one of your messages, as you support fuhrer Putler and Russian nazis that's no surprise.
Ethan Allen

Waterbury, VT

#55 Aug 30, 2014
Pro Ukraine wrote:
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Nazis* fighting nazis*, I already posted evidence that the Russian terrorists are all members of extreme fascist organisations.
Your idea of 'evidence' is about as sound as Porko's.

Novorossiya's supporters are a pot pouri of true democrats, ultra-nationalists (call them neo-nazis, fine with me) and socialists (call them communists, fine with me). Frankly,'communists' to me in that realm is mostly a simple label-grabbing of the equivalent 'social-democrat' is in Europe. It's a reaction for the most part to a true 1% oligarch-ownership of a country with virtually no middle-class. I do not see this 'communist label' as any fundamental threat to the development of a healthy capitalist structure. It was overcome in the US a hundred years ago, it'll be so there as well. Russia is frankly, ten years ahead of Ukraine in this respect.

Russia has no interest in nurturing either an expansionist ultra-nationalist Novorossiya nor an expansionist socialist one. Ukraine, on the other hand, has opened the pandora's box of extreme ultra-nationalism ( call them neo-nazis, fine with me). It's now suffering the consequences. Why would Russia want to follow in their path? On the contrary, it clearly understands the folly of that path, at least Putin does. The whole notion of the Crimea and Novorossiya as a precursor to Russian expansionism is absurd. It's a paranoid fantasy, period.

The sooner y'all stop letting your fears run your brains, the better off everyone will be.
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George

Red Deer, Canada

#57 Aug 30, 2014
Ethan Allen wrote:
Here you go, ye old doubter:
Ukraine crisis: the neo-Nazi brigade fighting pro-Russian separatists
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/eur...
You are surprised that there are more groups that dislike proRussian???
Kermudgeon

Buffalo, NY

#58 Aug 30, 2014
Attack Russia, the expansionist commies.
Ethan Allen

Waterbury, VT

#59 Aug 30, 2014
Pro Ukraine wrote:
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You're the one who's obsessed with nazis*, you mention them in every single one of your messages, as you support fuhrer Putler and Russian nazis that's no surprise.
I mention Nazis because they are a driving force in this f_g civil war of Ukraine's, and have hog-tied the government's ability to maneuver tself anywhere byut to disaster. That's why I mention Nazi.

Ukraine has allowed itself to become infected with a virulent ultra-nationalism - and the neo-Nazi parties have used this infection to spread their destructive philosophy unimpeded.

They think they're building a Titanic, with all its bravado. And frankly so do I, with all its faults.

I'm not really addressing this to you, Puke. You've already proven your inability to decipher anything I write.

You, like George, are just convenient strawmen. Thanks for that.
Lukashenko is Dr Phil

Finland

#60 Aug 30, 2014
Ethan Allen wrote:
In fact, that whole damn troublemaker of a country, Ukraine is just one really bad episode from the Twilight Zone:
Jewish mafia oligarchs hiring neo-nazi militias to go to war to recover their lost business deals. Then hiring the son of an American vice-president for window dressing. Egad!
It just don't get more surreal than that, my friend.
"The Azov Battalion is one of four battalions formed by Ihor Kolomoisky, who is the second richest oligarch of Ukraine. He is supposedly the organizer of the Odessa Massacre on May 2."
Here is one of their nifty patches:
http://files.abovetopsecret.com/files/img/pi5...
You forgot the hordes of inbred russian kholkhoznik coal miners and Krym casino pimps waving their little peckers at Putinko.
Lukashenko is Dr Phil

Finland

#61 Aug 30, 2014
Cordwainer Trout wrote:
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Typical Nazi type propaganda... dehumanize your opponent, call them rats, vermin, or assert they don't care about other human beings. Don't pay attention to the huge food convoys sent to help, nor the recent order to give refugees from Kiev's horror imposed on the citizens of Eastern Ukraine. You sick monsters don't realize your leadership in Kiev has been recorded calling for the extermination of Jews and Russians in Eastern Ukraine.
Isn't that exactly what Strelkov and Putinko are doing. I must say that big ukrainka Poroshenko restrained himself very well. If I had been face to face with Putinko like that and had been in Willy Wonkas shoes. Stupid russian kholkhozniks would have been no different under Poroshenko than they were under Yanuko. Those inbreds instead of minning their coal wanted to reduce their living standards into the level of Congo and Zambia.
Oliver Cromwell

Poulton, UK

#62 Aug 30, 2014
Ethan Allen wrote:
In fact, that whole damn troublemaker of a country, Ukraine is just one really bad episode from the Twilight Zone:
Jewish mafia oligarchs hiring neo-nazi militias to go to war to recover their lost business deals. Then hiring the son of an American vice-president for window dressing. Egad!
It just don't get more surreal than that, my friend.
"The Azov Battalion is one of four battalions formed by Ihor Kolomoisky, who is the second richest oligarch of Ukraine. He is supposedly the organizer of the Odessa Massacre on May 2."
Here is one of their nifty patches:
http://files.abovetopsecret.com/files/img/pi5...
I don't know where that bastard is,maybe in Israel,if he is anywhere in Ukraine he needs to be liquidated.

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