Protection For Drinking Water

Feb 6, 2014 Full story: Chemical & Engineering News 38

Federal and state lawmakers are looking at legislation to prevent situations like the one in West Virginia last month that forced 300,000 residents to use bottled water.

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Rick

Kodak, TN

#1 Feb 6, 2014
ugh isn't the water still undrinkable! I've seen some nasty photos and heard some nasty stories online! How can you be sure this water is safe now>? Is the legislatures letting their families drink it? I bet not!
FloatingFish

AOL

#2 Feb 7, 2014
No, the water is unsafe, unsuitable, and "undrinkable".

A viable resolution to the problem has yet to be attained. Unfortunately, those in positions of leadership and responsibility have "missed the boat" on this one (no pun intended).

Instead of focusing on a solution to the problem, they have decided to sidestep the issue and (conveniently) turn it into a circus related to the coal industry and regulation of chemicals. Too little, too late on those points. Shoulda/woulda/coulda been enforcing the regs that were already in place.

Nah, our problem is now 5 weeks in and counting...

It is paramount to relocate the extraction point from the Elk River Plant upstream above the contamination spill site. Otherwise, they are just chasing their tails by continuing to pump poisoned water into the water plant.

The ground and riverbank are saturated with MCHM and every time it rains, the chemical will be flushed into the river and then into the intake valve.

The 16 or so carbon (charcoal) filters were never replaced at the water plant. Tsk. Tsk. These are the same filters that were "overtaken by the chemical" (as the water company stated it) and that was the impetus for them to issue the DO NOT USE order. Really?

What they should have done is SHUT DOWN the intake valve on first notice of the chemical in the river. Preventive Maintenance could have circumvented quite a large number of exposures to the poisoned water.

The FLUSHING PROTOCOL issued by the water company was the next snafu. Pushing the bulk of the chemical water into the hot water tanks was foolish to say the least (and then advising everyone to run their appliances). Now, everything is contaminated.

Shoulda/woulda/coulda flushed all of the distribution system first, drained and cleaned all of the water towers, replaced all filters and equipment at the plant and then pumped relatively clean(er) water from an upriver extraction point into the plant. Then, customers should have been instructed to flush outside faucets for an hour, then interior cold lines for an hour, and then follow lastly with the hot water flush.

Clean, healthy, safe water will never be delivered through this water plant until the above has occurred or an alternate water source has been found or a complete water purification system has been established at the plant. Reliance upon the charcoal filters is not sufficient.

Trust in the water company, as well as state officials, is completely eroded.
love that dirty water

Bristol, CT

#3 Feb 7, 2014
we should just increase the rate at which we're destroying all sources of fresh water - thus hastening the demise of all living things on the planet.

oh wait - we're already doing that. never mind.
Gary

Bellingham, WA

#4 Feb 7, 2014
We don't need no damned legislation to regulate
what these chemical companies can do to our
drinking water.

If people don't like the smell, they don't have to
drink the water.

Regulation cuts into profits and profits are what
free enterprise is all about.

That bad smell is the smell of FREEDOM!

Get used to it ya socialist weenies!.
love that dirty water

Bristol, CT

#5 Feb 7, 2014
love that dirty water wrote:
we should just increase the rate at which we're destroying all sources of fresh water - thus hastening the demise of all living things on the planet.
oh wait - we're already doing that. never mind.
did I say "fresh water"?- I meant ALL water - seeing as how we're f*king up the oceans just as fast .. tick-tock .. tick-tock .. better drink up .. lol
water maid

Belle, WV

#6 Feb 7, 2014
Gary wrote:
We don't need no damned legislation to regulate
what these chemical companies can do to our
drinking water.
If people don't like the smell, they don't have to
drink the water.
Regulation cuts into profits and profits are what
free enterprise is all about.
That bad smell is the smell of FREEDOM!
Get used to it ya socialist weenies!.
another unhappy FREEDOM INDUSTRIES stockholder----if we didn't have regulations----idiots like you would be free to poison others.

Since: Feb 11

Peach Creek, WV

#7 Feb 7, 2014
It is coming to the point that water will have to be distilled, then aerated before it will be Potable to transmit in Central and Southern West Virginia, due to the Chemical, Coal and Gas companies.
Vincent

El Cerrito, CA

#8 Feb 7, 2014
Even if we filter the water, how do we know it is safe to drink? I am thinking we should use biomonitoring to check if it has an impact on our body. There is a company that is providing some home kit to check how environmental toxin affect people's DNA. They are a big hit on the health campaign of indiegogo crowdfunding site right now.
Sal

Miami, FL

#9 Feb 8, 2014
I bet the "less government regulation" W.V GOP bunch are drinking bottled water which the W.V tax payers are paying for.

GOP = Lethal
FloatingFish

AOL

#10 Feb 9, 2014
The water company is trippin' if they think we are going to pay our water bills!! Not only do they owe us FULL CREDIT on water usage since the spill, which incidently is for contaminated water and continued flushing per their instructions, they owe us for damages. Due to the fact that the flushing didn't work correctly and only contaminated our hot water tanks and appliances, they will also have to REIMBURSE us for "collateral expenses".

We fully expect coverage of purchases including bottled water, outside of home laundry/showers/travel, paper/plastic cutlery, plates, and cups, and then the big whopper of REPLACING our hot water tanks, pipes, dishwashers, washers, and any other appliances which were unnecessarily damaged due to the FLUSHING PROTOCOL issued by the water company.

Instructing us to flush the hot water lines first (and consequently running our appliances) was a major mistake and only resulted in contamination and damage to that equipment. Clothing and dishware damages would be inclusive. This is where the water company has culpability and blame for their role in this fiasco.

By flushing the hot water lines first, all that was accomplished was bringing in the bulk of the contaminated water into the hot water tank and home. Outside faucets should have been flushed first, then cold water interior lines and then the hot water lines. And this only AFTER the water company had thoroughly flushed the distribution system via hydrants, drained and cleaned the water towers, replaced all filters and necessary equipment at the plant. And that only AFTER they had moved the intake valve upstream to pump in clean water.

Taking out a full-page ad in the local newspaper with their feigned Q&A section will NOT make amends nor recover customer and community trust. It's funny how wvawc decides what questions to ask itself instead of attending a forum and listening and addressing its customers directly. Their actions (and inactions) are an admission of guilt.
Cheryl Adkins

Charleston, WV

#11 Feb 9, 2014
Well you can't filter out MCHM nor can it really be distilled out as some of the chemical will be in the steam. Only solution is to not put it in the water to begin with. We need adequate regulations on all chemicals and storage, more testing to determine risks and protocols, as well as proper enforcement and stronger fines and punishments. And filing bankruptcy shouldn't be an option for the companies that ruin our environment and the bankrupt their way out leaving us with the problem. Also we need lawmakers who aren't in the pockets of these companies who can stand up and say no to them.

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#12 Feb 9, 2014
for a red state, West Virginians sure seem to be clamoring for some serious gov't intervention into their lives and businesses...

funny how that works...
Wondering

Kodak, TN

#13 Feb 9, 2014
Hey the water taste good now. I'm in poor health and I drink it daily to stay that way!
FloatingFish

AOL

#14 Feb 10, 2014
For a red state? We aren't "clamoring" for anything - we are just demanding that we, as citizens of The United States of America, be treated as such.

Third world countries are being treated better than we are right now.

The idea that a "privately-owned company" (in conjunction with some questionable govt entities) can dictate to the people what is best for them and in their best interest is about as UN-American as you can get. This situation reeks of socialism-communism combined in which a select few try to force the masses to submit to their control.

The earth must have flipped on its axis, because it sure seems as if WV is a part of Russia now (and from the looks of it outside with all the snow - probably situated somewhere on the outskirts of Siberia.)

Nah, we ain't clamoring for some govt intervention in our lives, we are trying to convey to them the message that they are here to serve us and to understand that in this Country, the good ol' U.S. of A., that The People are in control, not the other way, jack. In other words, listen to what The People are saying and act accordingly.

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#15 Feb 10, 2014
FloatingFish wrote:
For a red state? We aren't "clamoring" for anything - we are just demanding that we, as citizens of The United States of America, be treated as such.
Third world countries are being treated better than we are right now.
The idea that a "privately-owned company" (in conjunction with some questionable govt entities) can dictate to the people what is best for them and in their best interest is about as UN-American as you can get. This situation reeks of socialism-communism combined in which a select few try to force the masses to submit to their control.
The earth must have flipped on its axis, because it sure seems as if WV is a part of Russia now (and from the looks of it outside with all the snow - probably situated somewhere on the outskirts of Siberia.)
Nah, we ain't clamoring for some govt intervention in our lives, we are trying to convey to them the message that they are here to serve us and to understand that in this Country, the good ol' U.S. of A., that The People are in control, not the other way, jack. In other words, listen to what The People are saying and act accordingly.
no, in fact you are...if you didn't want any gov't intervention no one would be calling for the gov't to do anything...deal with the company on your own. inspect their equipment on your own. get your water on your own...
FloatingFish

AOL

#16 Feb 10, 2014
wvawc continues to sit on its hind legs and barking about why they left the intake valve open and continued to deliver water through the distribution system.

enuf already, a very lame and poor excuse of "producing the water for sewer and fire service". They've run it to China and back with that reasoning - and they started with it on Day One - with a very prompt and inclusive statement, a quick afterthought, to cover their bases.

They truly believe that what they did was the correct and proper action to take and that they were really doing us all a service - thus qualifying them for saintdom.

Disasters happen all the time and communities lose water service, case in point, our good neighbors across the border in Kentucket.

It would have been much more prudent and the wiser move to shut down the intake valve and terminate water service for the duration. The result would have been an overwhelming majority of people being protected from the poisoned water and not exposed to it in the first place.

Common sense and a natural reflex would tell anyone to turn something off when the first signal of alarm or first notice of harm was present.

Shame. Shame. Shame.

All the rhetoric in the world won't give them a pass on this one. Their actions, deliberate and intentional, were certainly not in the best interest of the good citizens of Charleston, Kanawha County, and surrounding areas. The actions of the water company were rather malicious, harmful, and borderline criminal.

And just for the record, their "product" wasn't that good to begin with. They took our good water from our Elk River and basically destroyed it with all the additives they put in it anyway. Who truly knows how well they were treating it to begin with.

American Water Company - you are about as UN-American as one can get. We really don't want you in our state any longer, nor in control of our water supply. Go back to New Jersey and take care of your own. West Virginia has proven itself to be much better at taking care of its own. You just ain't welcome here any longer.
scaredofwater

Stafford, VA

#17 Feb 10, 2014
There is no way I would let my children drink the water. I'm just not convinced it's safe.
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Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#19 Feb 11, 2014
scaredofwater wrote:
There is no way I would let my children drink the water. I'm just not convinced it's safe.
you get it tested in as many labs as you want to send it to....
nemesis

Charleston, WV

#20 Feb 11, 2014
Another spill by Kanawha Eagle Coal. Makes you wonder how much chemicals you've ingested and didn't even know about it. I guess we should keep our mouths shut and be good lab rats, because all we get from the State officials is hot air.
FloatingFish

AOL

#21 Feb 11, 2014
And the water company, cdc, epa, dep, wv state govt are all afraid to use the word "SAFE".

Just like Senator Joe (Manchin) stated at the meeting on Monday, we won't be satisfied until it is 0.00 ppm of mchm...but then what about all the other junk that is in there?

Perhaps we need a major overhaul of the water plant altogether - we can start with new management and ownership.

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