US officials blocked rescue efforts while Benghazi burned, Congress told

May 8, 2013 Full story: The Guardian 310

Diplomat Gregory Hicks accuses State Department of cover-up in evidence that may yet hurt Hillary Clinton's White House bid Gregory Hicks claimed he was scolded for giving critical evidence to investigators without the presence of a 'minder' from State.

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Rakk

Pickerington, OH

#108 May 10, 2013
Cujo wrote:
Under Bush there was far more attacks. Where was the outrage?

Where was all that concern for our men and women serving in embassies and consulates across the globe when all the other attacks and killings occurred?
Like in 2002 when the US Consulate in the Karachi, Pakistan, was attacked and 10 were killed?
Or in 2004 when the US embassy in Uzbekistan was attacked and two were killed and another nine injured?
How about in 2004, when the US Consulate in Saudi Arabia was stormed and 8 lost their lives?
There is more: In 2006, armed men attacked the US Embassy in Syria and one was murdered.
Then in 2007 a grenade was thrown at the US Embassy in Athens.
In 2008, the US Embassy in Serbia was set on fire.
In 2008, bombings in the US Embassy in Yemen killed 10.

Face it, you right wingers are just sore losers, conspiracy theorists', making ridiculous claims, with no evidence.
Was there a QRF sent to the embassy's during those attacks? Did anyone fabricate an excuse or blame a video for the attacks? I do not recall all the details of those attacks, which is why I am asking. Thanks
Mike

Tampa, FL

#109 May 10, 2013
ABC News reporting about the amount of rewrites the State Dept made removing all mention of Al Quedia.... CBS reporter being pressured by upper management for being to thorough in her reporting of the Obama failure in Bengahzi...

Slowly, even more democrats up for re-election during the midterms are backing away from the outright lies that this in over their heads Administration have been telling.

Soon Hillary and Barry's speeches (LIES) spoken infront of those 4 caskets will be shown again and again...verbally disected by everyone.

I guess some of you are going to have to wait until Rachael Maddow finally has to report in tears, that Obama and Company lied about this mess.

In a few days the true picture of the most incompetent, borderline Criminal Administration will be totally exposed for all to see.

Like Rev Wright said "The Chickens have come Home...to Roost"
Rakk

Pickerington, OH

#110 May 10, 2013
tha Professor wrote:
<quoted text>Hysterical lies. She called in at 2am, does that indicate she was "drinking?" Obama doesn't sit in front of a screen 24/7/365 and watch every world event, ready to spring into action...no President does.

While Bush read to kiddies, we lost 3000 people and the WTC. You gave him a pass for that, of course. Hypocritical turd.
The WTC could have been prevented if bin Ladin was taken out when we had a chance in the 90's. Don't forget that the intelligence community and military suffered major funding cutbacks during the 90's as well.
Gustavo

Phoenix, AZ

#111 May 10, 2013
Cujo wrote:
Under Bush there was far more attacks. Where was the outrage?
Where was all that concern for our men and women serving in embassies and consulates across the globe when all the other attacks and killings occurred?
Like in 2002 when the US Consulate in the Karachi, Pakistan, was attacked and 10 were killed?
Or in 2004 when the US embassy in Uzbekistan was attacked and two were killed and another nine injured?
How about in 2004, when the US Consulate in Saudi Arabia was stormed and 8 lost their lives?
There is more: In 2006, armed men attacked the US Embassy in Syria and one was murdered.
Then in 2007 a grenade was thrown at the US Embassy in Athens.
In 2008, the US Embassy in Serbia was set on fire.
In 2008, bombings in the US Embassy in Yemen killed 10.
Face it, you right wingers are just sore losers, conspiracy theorists', making ridiculous claims, with no evidence.
Yep. About 150 embassy attacks under Big Bush. Hundreds dead.

64 embassy attacks with 98 dead under lil Bush.

No hearings.
Bigfoot

Houston, TX

#112 May 10, 2013
Gustavo wrote:
<quoted text>
Yep. About 150 embassy attacks under Big Bush. Hundreds dead.
64 embassy attacks with 98 dead under lil Bush.
No hearings.
Did you have a stroke ? You seem to be all one sided.
Austinite

Austin, TX

#113 May 10, 2013
No shocker there. As it unfolded and for the weeks afterward world news organizations were reporting on the attack and only mention of the video and spontanious attack on the embassy by a crowd of protestors came from American media and government. The day after ITN interviewed a woman who saw the whole thing from her balcony. No protests, all was quiet until 4-5 black SUVs pulled up and dozens of heavily armed men got out and assaulted the embassy. This was repeated by other people who were direct witness to this and only the American Government and the media were claiming different.
The embassy begged for more security and all they got was a few boxes of video cameras, still stacked up unopened when the attack came.
Far Away

Anchorage, AK

#114 May 10, 2013
Gustavo wrote:
<quoted text>
Yep. About 150 embassy attacks under Big Bush. Hundreds dead.
64 embassy attacks with 98 dead under lil Bush.
No hearings.
I'll repeat:

How many dead or injured were Americans?

How many embassy Ambassadors infomed the State Department they could not survive an attack?

How many embassy Ambassadors asked for additional security on multiple occasions?

How many of those attacks occurred on an anniversary of 9/11/01?

How many of them did Bush blame on a video?

How many of them had a Deputy Chief of Mission told not to send available military support?

How many of them had a Deputy Chief of Mission told no help would be sent?

and...

How many of them were outside theaters of operations in Iraq and Afghanistan?

“If it ain't broke don't fix it”

Since: Jul 09

Arcadia, LA.

#115 May 10, 2013
Duh oh. Things are looking pretty bleak for Biliary Clinton:

http://news.yahoo.com/dam-bursts-benghazi-111...

Since: Apr 09

Elmont, Long Island NY

#116 May 10, 2013
Rakk wrote:
<quoted text>
The WTC could have been prevented if bin Ladin was taken out when we had a chance in the 90's. Don't forget that the intelligence community and military suffered major funding cutbacks during the 90's as well.
we didn't even know about al qaeda and the connection to Osama bin Laden when he was in the Sudan. it was until the embassy bombings in Africa did we learn the identity of the terrorist group Al Qaeda and they were responsible for numerous terrorists attacks against the U.S. See al Qaeda is arabic for "the Base"....intel analysts thought al qaeda was a physical location...but don't let facts get in the way of your skewed version of history

the attacks of 9/11 may have been prevented if President Dumbya paid more attention to the repeated warnings of an imminent attack by al qaeda.

or if the evangelical AG hadn't refocused the FBI from counter terrorism to prostitution and drugs

as for Benghazi, it was the locale Military commanders who decided not to send in additional troops and a wise decision that was

the last thing we need is an idiot civilian with no military experience to make combat decisions.

"It is now thought the attacks, involving up to 60 heavily armed militia,...."

and Hicks wanted to send 4 more troops to Benghazi, after he already knew Stephens was dead????

WTF, did he want to up the body count.

this is the same idiot who thought a fly over by jets is going to scare off the attackers

and some concern he has for the pilots....he wanted them to fly from Avaino, about 3 hours away without a refueling tanker???

what the heck were they gonna do when they ran out of fuel???

geesh, didn't we learn from Nam and Iraq what happens when we let civilians make military decisions....

in Nam it was LBJ and brain dead McNamera who thought they knew better how to run a war than the Generals

in Iraq is was Rumnuts, Wolfowitz and Bremer, all of whom disregarded the military.

it takes good leadership like FDR and George H.W. Bush to tell the military what they want done, then step aside and let them do it.
Mike

Tampa, FL

#117 May 10, 2013
Gustavo wrote:
<quoted text>
Yep. About 150 embassy attacks under Big Bush. Hundreds dead.
64 embassy attacks with 98 dead under lil Bush.
No hearings.
Do you think that the Media (The same Media who is asleep at the wheel as it relates to Obama's Coverups) would let Bush get away with any of this?

I guess the Race Card is next.

Since: Apr 09

Elmont, Long Island NY

#118 May 10, 2013
Austinite wrote:
No shocker there. As it unfolded and for the weeks afterward world news organizations were reporting on the attack and only mention of the video and spontanious attack on the embassy by a crowd of protestors came from American media and government. The day after ITN interviewed a woman who saw the whole thing from her balcony. No protests, all was quiet until 4-5 black SUVs pulled up and dozens of heavily armed men got out and assaulted the embassy. This was repeated by other people who were direct witness to this and only the American Government and the media were claiming different.
The embassy begged for more security and all they got was a few boxes of video cameras, still stacked up unopened when the attack came.
and the special investigation led by former admiral Mike Mullen identified multiple failings within the state department. I believe 4 (maybe 3) highly placed state department officials responsible were axed and changes were made to improve security....

what does it matter if it were an organized attack or something similar to what happened in Egypt. The results don't change and the mistakes are still the same. Correct them and move on.

there weren't enough troops within range to effect a rescue and change the outcome. The local military commanders decided not to send in anymore troops to an unknown situation to face an unknown force. a wise military decision if you ask me.

Look what happened with the USS Mayaguez, we thought the Marines were going against a company, turns out we sent in Marines form 2/9 against a battalion of battle hardened Khmer Rouge....

normal invasion protocols cal for a minimum of 3 to 1 odds not 1 to 1
Far Away

Anchorage, AK

#119 May 10, 2013
ABC News has obtained 12 different versions of the talking points that show they were extensively edited as they evolved from the drafts first written entirely by the CIA to the final version distributed to Congress and to U.S. Ambassador to the U.N. Susan Rice before she appeared on five talk shows the Sunday after that attack.

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2013/05/...

Since: Apr 09

Elmont, Long Island NY

#120 May 10, 2013
Far Away wrote:
<quoted text>
I'll repeat:
How many dead or injured were Americans?
How many embassy Ambassadors infomed the State Department they could not survive an attack?
How many embassy Ambassadors asked for additional security on multiple occasions?
How many of those attacks occurred on an anniversary of 9/11/01?
How many of them did Bush blame on a video?
How many of them had a Deputy Chief of Mission told not to send available military support?
How many of them had a Deputy Chief of Mission told no help would be sent?
and...
How many of them were outside theaters of operations in Iraq and Afghanistan?
and how many times did Congress cut the state department's budget during Bush's tenure??????

the decision not to send additional troops to Benghazi was made by the military, as testified by military pentagon officials
Rakk

Pickerington, OH

#121 May 10, 2013
Karma is a_______ wrote:
<quoted text>we didn't even know about al qaeda and the connection to Osama bin Laden when he was in the Sudan. it was until the embassy bombings in Africa did we learn the identity of the terrorist group Al Qaeda and they were responsible for numerous terrorists attacks against the U.S. See al Qaeda is arabic for "the Base"....intel analysts thought al qaeda was a physical location...but don't let facts get in the way of your skewed version of history

the attacks of 9/11 may have been prevented if President Dumbya paid more attention to the repeated warnings of an imminent attack by al qaeda.

or if the evangelical AG hadn't refocused the FBI from counter terrorism to prostitution and drugs

as for Benghazi, it was the locale Military commanders who decided not to send in additional troops and a wise decision that was

the last thing we need is an idiot civilian with no military experience to make combat decisions.

"It is now thought the attacks, involving up to 60 heavily armed militia,...."

and Hicks wanted to send 4 more troops to Benghazi, after he already knew Stephens was dead????

WTF, did he want to up the body count.

this is the same idiot who thought a fly over by jets is going to scare off the attackers

and some concern he has for the pilots....he wanted them to fly from Avaino, about 3 hours away without a refueling tanker???

what the heck were they gonna do when they ran out of fuel???

geesh, didn't we learn from Nam and Iraq what happens when we let civilians make military decisions....

in Nam it was LBJ and brain dead McNamera who thought they knew better how to run a war than the Generals

in Iraq is was Rumnuts, Wolfowitz and Bremer, all of whom disregarded the military.

it takes good leadership like FDR and George H.W. Bush to tell the military what they want done, then step aside and let them do it.
Not sure why you had to use skewed and be disrespectful in you comment.
But anyways the fact remains that we did suffer major cutbacks in the military and intelligence communities in the late 90's, and if we would have taken bin Ladin out we would not be where we are today. Please tell me witch part of this is skewed! Thanks
Gustavo

Phoenix, AZ

#122 May 10, 2013
That's the nub of the problem, no one knows because there were no invesigations. Bush and company said virtually nothing about the attacks under his tenure. For example, his attack that killed a US diplomat:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/4765170...

Bush merely puffed out his chest and never spoke of it again.
Far Away wrote:
<quoted text>
I'll repeat:
How many dead or injured were Americans?
How many embassy Ambassadors infomed the State Department they could not survive an attack?
How many embassy Ambassadors asked for additional security on multiple occasions?
How many of those attacks occurred on an anniversary of 9/11/01?
How many of them did Bush blame on a video?
How many of them had a Deputy Chief of Mission told not to send available military support?
How many of them had a Deputy Chief of Mission told no help would be sent?
and...
How many of them were outside theaters of operations in Iraq and Afghanistan?

Since: Nov 08

Location hidden

#123 May 10, 2013
Gustavo wrote:
<quoted text>
Yep. About 150 embassy attacks under Big Bush. Hundreds dead.
64 embassy attacks with 98 dead under lil Bush.
No hearings.
Change medications.

Since: Nov 08

Location hidden

#124 May 10, 2013
Karma is a_______ wrote:
<quoted text>
and how many times did Congress cut the state department's budget during Bush's tenure??????
the decision not to send additional troops to Benghazi was made by the military, as testified by military pentagon officials
It's the state departments responsibility to maintain security at the consolates and embassys. They had million in the bank to cover the additional security pookie. At the same time these request were denied, Valerie Jarret go a full security detain just to go on vacation in Martha's Vineyard, and Obama's daughter got 25 agents for her springbreak in Mexico.

Since: Nov 08

Location hidden

#125 May 10, 2013
Mike wrote:
<quoted text>
Do you think that the Media (The same Media who is asleep at the wheel as it relates to Obama's Coverups) would let Bush get away with any of this?
I guess the Race Card is next.
White House meets privately with press to discuss Benghazi...Obama: Come on guys get the script down I gave you, it’s the video’s fault.
Far Away

Anchorage, AK

#126 May 10, 2013
Karma is a_______ wrote:
<quoted text>
and how many times did Congress cut the state department's budget during Bush's tenure??????
the decision not to send additional troops to Benghazi was made by the military, as testified by military pentagon officials
As for your insinuated lie number one:

"Rep. Dana Rohrabacher:“Was there any budget consideration and lack of budget which led you not to increase the number of people in the security force there?”

Charlene Lamb: No, sir."

As for your implication number two:

If true, they--'military pentagon officials' as you describe them--did not follow the orders of Øbama, their Commander in Chief, to do everything in their power to help those folks at Benghazi. There were military personnel on the ground in Tripoli ready to board a plane to Benghazi and they were ordered to 'stand down'.
Far Away

Anchorage, AK

#127 May 10, 2013
Gustavo wrote:
That's the nub of the problem, no one knows because there were no invesigations. Bush and company said virtually nothing about the attacks under his tenure. For example, his attack that killed a US diplomat:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/4765170...
Bush merely puffed out his chest and never spoke of it again.
<quoted text>
There were congressional oversight investigations on some of the attacks. Do your homework so you don't look like you're just repeating what you read on mediamatters or hear on Comedy Central at the Daily Show.

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