Judge overturns California's ban on s...

Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage

There are 201853 comments on the www.cnn.com story from Aug 4, 2010, titled Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage. In it, www.cnn.com reports that:

A federal judge in California has knocked down the state's voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage, ruling Wednesday that the state's controversial Proposition 8 violates the U.S. Constitution.

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“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#149665 Jul 9, 2012
ELH wrote:
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Thanks for the language lesson but I don't use words unless I know there meaning. And in this case I was going for over bearing, over aggressive, knuckle dragger.
Heads up: Intelligent people don't form their opinions based on fear or ignorance they form them based on facts. And MORE IMPORTANT, when the facts change their OPINIONS adjust changes with the NEW facts presented. So if you really "don't like" that you "hate" homosexuals you could actually adjust your OPINION or at least your rhetoric.
OK, if "Intelligent people don't form their opinions based on fear or ignorance they form them based on facts" then why call me a troglodyte? Nothing in the actual definition means "bearing, over aggressive, knuckle dragger"......
Smart lady.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#149666 Jul 9, 2012
ELH wrote:
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OH dear, you neglected to mention that the appeals court has UPHELD is RULING becasue it was UNCONSTITUTIONAL.
You did a NICE cut and paste job but you need to take a refresher course in basic government you are not impressing anyone with your halftruths, talking points and rhetoric.
I'd point out that you are fooling no one but won't since you are doing such a great job of fooling yourself.
How is it unconstitutional?!? Are there "rights" to be gay? Are there "rights" to be straight? Why do gays want to undermine a basic bilogical function & a moral standing that America has upheld for over 200 years?? Why to fags want better-than-equal rights?
This isn't about civil rights at all. This is about gays wanting to be "heard" & come out of the closet as loudly as they can. Gays can vote right? Gays can buy a home right? Gays can open a night club right?
It's their fault & THEIR CHOICE to be gay. They have to live with it (at least for now).
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ELH

Vancouver, WA

#149669 Jul 9, 2012
Bruno wrote:
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Hmmm lets see here...
Hey Bruno, Bet you got a little woody when you posted that Enjoy your "fun time"!

BTW, you post (#149657) has been REPORTED as pornographic pedophilia. I hope others report it as well and look forward to "Professor Marvelous posting the article about the cops arresting you and seize your computer.

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“Crusading Fundies r hilarious!”

Since: Feb 11

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#149672 Jul 9, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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aaawwwww..... Must've been terrible for you growing up... Oh well, it was YOUR CHOICE to be gay.
Well dear, let's say you are right. All 500 million of us gays around the planet all chose to be gay. So what? What ignorant point would you like to try and establish based on this irrelevant rant of yours? Let's just get whatever it is your waiting to spring forth off your chest and out into the open. Hurry the f*ck up and make whatever you think your stupid point is so that we can demonstrate what a stupid POS you are and all move on.
Come on now......

“Crusading Fundies r hilarious!”

Since: Feb 11

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#149673 Jul 9, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Very much. Just as much as my kids are anti-gay bigots, you're an anti-straight bigot. Where'd you learn that trait? Or were you "born that way"?
Care to point out a post where an anti-straight remark was supposedly made?

Yeah, we thought not.

Liars for Jesus unite, the ignorant trailer redneck is leading the way!!
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“Crusading Fundies r hilarious!”

Since: Feb 11

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#149676 Jul 9, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
Big surprise! We expected nothing different from Judge Vaughn Walker, after the biased way he conducted this trial," said Brian Brown, president of the National Organization for Marriage. "With a stroke of his pen, Judge Walker has overruled the votes and values of 7 million Californians who voted for marriage as one man and one woman.
Quoting NOM?!!!! LOL!!!!! Wow, that says it all.

Well, since you seem to want to be the mouthpiece for Brian Brown, why don't you demonstrate the bias you speak of.

Here are the 80 findings for Judge Walker. Kindly show us which were formed based on the supposed bias you mention. The lawyers defending your unconstitutional amendment weren't able to, nor was a Federal Judge appointed to review it. Please, by all means, why dont YOU be the one to save the day for your cause!!!!!

Please demonstrate the bias, rather than just blathering about it like some retard like Brian Brown!!! Come on now Cletus!!!!

http://adellefrank.com/blog/review-summary-wa...
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ELH

Vancouver, WA

#149678 Jul 9, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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OK, if "Intelligent people don't form their opinions based on fear or ignorance they form them based on facts" then why call me a troglodyte?
Stop acting like one and I will stop calling you one.
RiversideRedneck wrote:
Nothing in the actual definition means "bearing, over aggressive, knuckle dragger"......
You are aware that there are sources of INFORMATION in the internet OTHER THEN Wikipedia? Here are a few you missed:

Troglodyte:
A person who lives away from the coasts and metropolises, once referred to as a 'hinterlander' but no longer deserving of that otherwise-dignified term. He regards himself as a "real American" and his culture as that of such. He is adamant about his Second Amendment rights but isn't very interested in those other, less-relevant amendments that only the judges and politicians- who he scorns as being "leeches"- care about. He hates the idea of more laws, government or regulation of anything that reduce what he regards as "freedom", itself a word that he flings about without care. He hates non-real Americans, i.e. American citizens who are unlike himself, and those who he hates the most passionately are Muslims, all of whom he associates with the 9/11 attacks. In his telling you what's wrong with the U.S. and the way things ought to be, he could endlessly expand this definition without even knowing he is doing so.

troglodyte: indoor-smoking, hard-drinking, pickup truck driving, Muslim-hating, liberal-hating, foreigner-hating, homophobic, gun-loving, self-assumed Christian who hasn't set foot in church in "only God knows when".

troglodyte:
A person considered to be reclusive, reactionary, out of date, or brutish.

trogladyte:
A red neck and/or crack snorting alcoholic who spends most of their time in WalMart buying discount paper towels and eating at the ketchup packets at the McDonalds in the store. They usually drive an astro van packed with six of their illegitamate love children, none of which wear pants or shoes.

troglodyte:
A member of a primitive race or tribe of cave people, who can be found congregating in large numbers at Noir Bar Weybridge every Friday or Saturday night.
RiversideRedneck wrote:
Smart lady.
That's been the case all my life.

“Crusading Fundies r hilarious!”

Since: Feb 11

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#149679 Jul 9, 2012
KiMare wrote:
-Children are bigots because they separate their mom and dad from other couples.
Who said that Ms. Deceitful? Not me.
KiMare wrote:
-It is (completely) irrelevant that children see their mom and dad as distinct from other couples.
Who said that Ms. Deceitful? Not me.
KiMare wrote:
It would be funny if it wasn't so sad.
Who said that Ms. Deceitful? Everyone.....about you.
KiMare wrote:
I would think you are a embarrASSment to other gays on here. You are to the lesbian in me!
Good thing you have that piece of paper. I'm sure it brings you much comfort.

“Crusading Fundies r hilarious!”

Since: Feb 11

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#149680 Jul 9, 2012
Bruno wrote:
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Hmmm lets see here, you were 11. I bet it was your mothers friend next door that popped your cherry right??? She maid you feel all FKing tingly and wet down there when she touched you with her finger followed up by a wet tounge right ??? lol
Well look at that. Bruno got all masturbatory with your post. Guess this confirms him as a pedophile. Gettin all explicite over an 11 year old. Anyone suprised by that? I know I'm not.
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ELH

Vancouver, WA

#149682 Jul 9, 2012
Wow! I was sort of JOKING before but YOU really do need a civics lesson!
RiversideRedneck wrote:
How is it unconstitutional?!?
You are here spewing gas all day long and you don't even understand the issue? Seriously?

According Judge Walker AND the 9th Circuit Court (you know, the PEOPLE in the black robes who get to DECIDE if something is or isn't UNCONSTITUTIONAL)“Proposition 8 served no purpose, and had no effect, other than to lessen the status and human dignity of gays and lesbians...”

See! It's more complicated that anomalously spewing your hatred for phags all over then interwebs.

“Crusading Fundies r hilarious!”

Since: Feb 11

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#149683 Jul 9, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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OK, if "Intelligent people don't form their opinions based on fear or ignorance they form them based on facts" then why call me a troglodyte? Nothing in the actual definition means "bearing, over aggressive, knuckle dragger"......
Smart lady.
Damn you are one stupid cur.

From the very diatribe of definitions you posted:

"* Caveman, a stock character based upon widespread concepts of the way in which early prehistoric humans may have looked and behaved"
2 2 late

Monrovia, CA

#149684 Jul 9, 2012
The city of San Bernardino must immediately make substantial cuts to its budget or prepare for bankruptcy, the interim city manager and the finance director have warned the City Council.
ELH

Vancouver, WA

#149685 Jul 9, 2012
Jonah1 wrote:
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Well look at that. Bruno got all masturbatory with your post. Anyone suprised by that? I know I'm not.
That's how it goes with pedophiles. They hang around the same place too long and they get comfortable and overly confident.

Topix takes a dim view of child pornography. If I were "Bruno" I'd be replacing my hard drive ASAP.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

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#149686 Jul 9, 2012
Jonah0 wrote:
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Who said that Ms. Deceitful? Not me.
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Who said that Ms. Deceitful? Not me.
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Who said that Ms. Deceitful? Everyone.....about you.
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Good thing you have that piece of paper. I'm sure it brings you much comfort.
Here is my post;

KiMare wrote:

Especially the child who sees mom and dad.

Your response to my post;

Jonah0 wrote:

Children aren't bigots until people like you teach them to be. Whether children see differences in a couple is completely irrelevant.

Who is the liar???
ELH

Vancouver, WA

#149687 Jul 9, 2012
Jonah1 wrote:
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Care to point out a post where an anti-straight remark was supposedly made?
It's pretty obvious. When I called out a "real man" like "Swampside Redneck" I offended the entire heterosexual "nation"!
ELH

Vancouver, WA

#149688 Jul 9, 2012
Jonah, If we all ignore KiMare, I think (s)he'll shrivel up and die.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

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#149689 Jul 9, 2012
ELH wrote:
Jonah, If we all ignore KiMare, I think (s)he'll shrivel up and die.
It's not KiMare'a, it's the bitch slap of reality that is getting to you boys.

“Crusading Fundies r hilarious!”

Since: Feb 11

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#149690 Jul 9, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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How is it unconstitutional?!?
Perhaps if you actually knew something about the issue, rather than just sharing your bigotry you would already know this.

According to the majority opinion: "Proposition 8 serves no purpose, and has no effect, other than to lessen the status and human dignity of gays and lesbians in California, and to officially reclassify their relationships and families as inferior to those of opposite-sex couples," said Judge Stephen Reinhardt in the majority opinion.:"

In othe words Cletus, the law was created for one sole purpose....to discriminate. That, believe it or not, is unconstitutional.
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Are there "rights" to be gay? Are there "rights" to be straight?
There are human rights, they apply to both. Why are you so stupid?
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Why do gays want to undermine a basic bilogical function & a moral standing that America has upheld for over 200 years??
1) We aren't undermining anything. If we were you'd be able to demonstrate it, which you can't. You just are pissy that your straight relationships won't be recognized as being "specialer"!!
2) Marriage doesn't have a biological function.
3) Homosexuality has NOTHING to do with morality.
4) Arguing historical tradition is a logical falicy. You might as well be whining about why women need to vote, or why blacks need to be free.

Hopefully I hit all your ridiculous repetitious NOM talking points, but if I didn't, do let me know and I'll be sure and clear whatever other misconceptions you have right up.
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Why to fags want better-than-equal rights?
Oh, you gotta love this one. Seriously? Are you new to the game? The "special rights" argument has been long, long, long time debunked. But since you brought it up, then do educate the room. When gays are free to marry the consenting adult of their choosing, exactly WHAT SPECIFIC SPECIAL (or your term BETTER THAN EQUAL) rights will we have that you don't already have.

Waiting....

Waiting....

Waiting.....

Damn you are stupid.
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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This isn't about civil rights at all. This is about gays wanting to be "heard" & come out of the closet as loudly as they can.
We are fully capable of doing both those things without marrying moron. Coming out, and being heard has NOTHING to do with the decision to unite with another human being. But please, don't let facts get in the way of your shilling for NOM!!!!! Nothing demonstrates your idiocy better than that!!!
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Gays can vote right? Gays can buy a home right? Gays can open a night club right?
Yes, so can straights. What the f*ck is your point supposed to be?
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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It's their fault & THEIR CHOICE to be gay. They have to live with it (at least for now).
This doesn't even make any sense. You must have skipped some pages in your NOM manual.

“ reality, what a concept”

Since: Nov 07

this one

#149691 Jul 9, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
Other than proving you know how to use your computer's cut and paste feature to rip off "your" thoughts from others, did you actually have a point?

The question of whether the individual's right to marry extends to someone of their same sex isn't likely to be before the Supremes for another 3-5 years, depending on the speed of cases that have yet to be heard in Minnesota and New Jersey. You should be more worried about this coming November, if you lose the votes in the four states where this question will be on the ballot, you can pretty much see what the answer to that question will probably be when it finally gets there. In the interim, we get to find that California's amendment is going to be sacrificed to political expediency, likely without so much as a hearing by the SCOTUS and that DOMA Section 3, the so-called federal definition of marriage is just as incredibly unconstitutional as we've been saying all along. The individual's right to marry will include those of their same sex, regardless of where we live in this country. The state amendments denying that right are completely indefensible, no matter how many people voted for them. This will be a reality well before the end of this decade, you'd better start getting used too it now.

“Crusading Fundies r hilarious!”

Since: Feb 11

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#149692 Jul 9, 2012
KiMare wrote:
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Here is my post;
KiMare wrote:
Especially the child who sees mom and dad.
Your response to my post;
Jonah0 wrote:
Children aren't bigots until people like you teach them to be. Whether children see differences in a couple is completely irrelevant.
Who is the liar???
You. I was refering to other couples, you know the "gay" ones you referred to, not their parents stupid. Are you under the impression that children see all other straight couples as their parents?

Liars for Jesus unite!!

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