Anti-tax conservatives say no to tax-increase deal

Dec 23, 2012 Full story: The Kansas City Star 20

In the city where a protest over tax policy sparked a revolution, modern day tea party activists are cheering the recent Republican revolt in Washington that embarrassed House Speaker John Boehner and pushed the country closer to a "fiscal cliff" that forces tax increases and massive spending cuts on virtually every American."I want conservatives ... (more)

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Robert

Douglasville, GA

#1 Dec 23, 2012
Good we are finally going to cut spending, fewer of my dollars for Obama to give away so the extra taxes will go more towards debt.

“i hope we can change this!”

Since: Aug 08

usa

#2 Dec 23, 2012
and, fiscally irresponsible liberals say no to spending cuts....

hmmm, THAT doesn't seem to be getting too much play in the media.

wonder why?
thinkaboutit

Llano, TX

#3 Dec 23, 2012
"Anti-tax conservatives say no to tax-increase deal" but by killing 'the deal' it looks likely they have voted to raise taxes (by letting the Bush II tax cuts expire 1.1.13). Of course they will get spending cuts, maybe that is what they are thinking. Maybe it is not about raising taxes at all, but who, what class, will get a tax increase. Not to worry, Congressmen will get their paycheck, acrue retirement and still have health insurance. Will you?
3OHA

Anonymous Proxy

#4 Dec 23, 2012
The only "deal" offered was offered by the Republican Congress. Obama shows his disdain for any "deal" by first rejecting it, then going body surfing. Obama has played a good hand, not caring one iota about tax increases on everyone and increased debt on everyone. Only through increasing burdens on everyone and binding them with redundant administrative laws of no value can a Marxist establish control. Those supporting the President's position aren't harmed because they are already on the government dole and don't pay taxes, although they delusionally believe paying sales tax on something bought with free money is paying taxes. Such foolish children!
Calling Your Bluff

Dallas, GA

#5 Dec 23, 2012
thinkaboutit wrote:
"Anti-tax conservatives say no to tax-increase deal" but by killing 'the deal' it looks likely they have voted to raise taxes (by letting the Bush II tax cuts expire 1.1.13). Of course they will get spending cuts, maybe that is what they are thinking. Maybe it is not about raising taxes at all, but who, what class, will get a tax increase. Not to worry, Congressmen will get their paycheck, acrue retirement and still have health insurance. Will you?
Negative, the "conservatives" are saying; this government put a law into place, they need to live with the consequences. To do otherwise only proves they F'd up the last go around.
thinkaboutit

Llano, TX

#6 Dec 23, 2012
Calling Your Bluff wrote:
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Negative, the "conservatives" are saying; this government put a law into place, they need to live with the consequences. To do otherwise only proves they F'd up the last go around.
That law, the one this government put in place, will increase taxes, and they Congress and the White House have f'd up taxes, spending, the deficit and the debt for many years under both Republicans and Democrats. Keep in mind they are you and me.

"No government is any better than the people you elect to run it." I.H. Kempner

We may reap what we have sowed.
Calling Your Bluff

Dallas, GA

#7 Dec 23, 2012
thinkaboutit wrote:
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That law, the one this government put in place, will increase taxes, and they Congress and the White House have f'd up taxes, spending, the deficit and the debt for many years under both Republicans and Democrats. Keep in mind they are you and me.
"No government is any better than the people you elect to run it." I.H. Kempner
We may reap what we have sowed.
I think we should reap what we have sowed. Bring on the cliff.
3OHA

United States

#8 Dec 23, 2012
Bush showed his understanding of a workable government by willingly compromising with a Democrat Congress to place a sundown on tax breaks. Democrats wanting a sundown showed they are the taxing Party. Now, Democrats show they are the taxing Party by refusing to extend the tax breaks, or eliminate the sundown. Obama doesn't care about taxes going up on everyone and he certainly doesn't want a balanced budget, nor a reduction in spending. His own budget projections place the country in Six Trillion dollars more debt in addition to the huge (totalling 22 Trillion), unrecoverable debt he's already imposed all by himself. Reductions in spending would impact the Democrat Socialist economy, thus they play this game of saying they care about the middle class, when in fact they're cynicism was shown under Bush and in their current refusal to compromise like Bush.
Milw TaXpayer

Waukesha, WI

#9 Dec 23, 2012
Finally the conservatives( tea party if you like) have told Obmamo to go pound sand. He doesn't want a deal, never did, which is why he won't bargain. He WANTS taxes to go up so he can "hand out" more $$$ to his supporters (entitlement crowd)
They elected this bozo so let things fly where they may.
Higher taxes, less jobs, slow/weak economy, no small business growth, work hrs cut, full time cut to part time, higher insurance costs for health care.
You wanted it, you voted for it...to bad we all have to live with it.
Glad I moved/stashed my "stuff" before all this sh*t hits the fan.

Since: Aug 07

Location hidden

#10 Dec 23, 2012
Are you serious? If we go over the cliff Obama will get even more taxes than he was asking for. You're right about one thing, "fewer of your dollars will go to Obama". Right. He'll get even more. You conservatives don't think about consequences. Taxes will go up for $163 million workers and Obama will come out just fine. All he'll do is realize he now has the money to keep his train rolling down the track. Duh!
Robert wrote:
Good we are finally going to cut spending, fewer of my dollars for Obama to give away so the extra taxes will go more towards debt.
thinkaboutit

Llano, TX

#11 Dec 23, 2012
Calling Your Bluff wrote:
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I think we should reap what we have sowed. Bring on the cliff.
I will reduce the deficit. I take it you are ready to pay more for less.
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3OHA

Anonymous Proxy

#15 Dec 23, 2012
The taxes don't even matter. That issue is a baiting technique used by Democrats to cause class warfare. Taxes increased on the wealthy as Obama demands would fund the government for EIGHT DAYS. Spending is the problem and it has phenomenally increased under Obama, the FIRST and only President to run Trillion Dollar Deficits in every year. 16+ Trillion in debt now; 22+ Trillion in debt with Obama's second term. Both unsustainable.
drinK the hivE

Anonymous Proxy

#16 Dec 23, 2012
It's Called Parallel Universe Son...

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“Happiness comes through giving”

Since: Feb 08

Location hidden

#19 Dec 23, 2012
carey529 wrote:
and, fiscally irresponsible liberals say no to spending cuts....
hmmm, THAT doesn't seem to be getting too much play in the media.
wonder why?
Horseshit, Cash n Carey. Obama has proposed deep sending cuts as part of a compromise. If only your knowledge kept up with your ranting.
xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#20 Dec 23, 2012
jenny623 wrote:
Are you serious? If we go over the cliff Obama will get even more taxes than he was asking for. You're right about one thing, "fewer of your dollars will go to Obama". Right. He'll get even more. You conservatives don't think about consequences. Taxes will go up for $163 million workers and Obama will come out just fine. All he'll do is realize he now has the money to keep his train rolling down the track. Duh!
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When has the Congress been blamed for anything? It doesn't happen. The only person held responsible (good or bad) is the President.

During the Clinton years when Republicans balanced the budget and even had a projected surplus, did Gingrich get credit? No, they hailed Clinton. When historical debts were ran up during the Reagan administration, did anybody blame the Democrat Congress? No. They all blamed Reagan. Most of the debt incurred during DumBama's first term took place in the first couple of years. Will anybody remember that it was a Democrat led Congress? No, they site DumBama. Same holds true of the Democrat Congress under Bush. Bush got the blame.

Okay, so this is DumBama's last term, but people will remember the party he represents. When he lost Congressional mid-term elections to the Republicans, it's not because people were pssed at the Democrat Congress, they were pssed at DumBama. The exact same thing happened under Clinton when he lost the Congress to the Republicans. They were upset with Hillary Care, so they took their anger out on the Congress.
xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#21 Dec 23, 2012
3OHA wrote:
For a clearly stated perspective on the issue of a Democrat Senate leadership saying he would not even consider Republican compromises and a Democrat President saying that if such compromise reached his desk he'd veto it, read the troubling account in this link...
http://frontpagemag.com/2012/arnold-ahlert/fi...
I've suspected that no matter what the Republicans offer, DumBama is hell bent on going over the cliff. But why?

Commie Care is a known jobs killer. In fact, that's why DumBama wrote over 1,000 temporary waivers. Businesses predicted it would be a jobs killer, the CBO predicted it would be a jobs killer, everybody knows it will be a jobs killer.

Now that DumBama is facing the tragedy of his own making in 2013, what's he supposed to do? He certainly can't rescind Obama Care. That would make him look foolish. On the other hand, if everything goes as planned and Commie Care kills jobs, he doesn't want that on his record either.

The answer is simple. Let the country go over the cliff. This way, nobody will suspect Commie Care as the culprit. DumBama can place the entire blame on the Republican Congress even though the fiscal cliff will only part of the job killing machine. People will be so obsessed with the fiscal cliff that they won't consider the damage of Commie Care. So if DumBama actually negotiates with the Republicans on the fiscal cliff, he would only amplify the damage of Commie Care.
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Calling Your Bluff

Dallas, GA

#23 Dec 24, 2012
jenny623 wrote:
Are you serious? If we go over the cliff Obama will get even more taxes than he was asking for. You're right about one thing, "fewer of your dollars will go to Obama". Right. He'll get even more. You conservatives don't think about consequences. Taxes will go up for $163 million workers and Obama will come out just fine. All he'll do is realize he now has the money to keep his train rolling down the track. Duh!
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Bring on the cliff, then vote out a few hundred career politicians, then fairtax.org .
Calling Your Bluff

Dallas, GA

#24 Dec 24, 2012
Lawrence Wolf wrote:
<quoted text>Horseshit, Cash n Carey. Obama has proposed deep sending cuts as part of a compromise. If only your knowledge kept up with your ranting.
Another guy who doesn't get the difference between a cut, and a reduction of an outrageously high budget proposal, or a slow down in the rate of spending increases.

“Happiness comes through giving”

Since: Feb 08

Location hidden

#25 Dec 24, 2012
Calling Your Bluff wrote:
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Another guy who doesn't get the difference between a cut, and a reduction of an outrageously high budget proposal, or a slow down in the rate of spending increases.
Your "evenhanded" blabbering is what is outrageous.
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Calling Your Bluff

Dallas, GA

#27 Dec 24, 2012
Lawrence Wolf wrote:
<quoted text>Your "evenhanded" blabbering is what is outrageous.
As predicted, an attack response, meaning I scored a direct hit.

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