Food stamp cuts kick in as Congress debates more

Oct 31, 2013 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: FOX Carolina

More than 47 million Americans who receive food stamps will see their benefits go down starting Friday, just as Congress begins negotiations on further cuts to the program.

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Could you explain the correlation with the below information and Bobby Kennedy
Source: U.S. Department of Agriculture
STATES WITH HIGHEST SNAP PARTICIPATION
Mississippi -- 22 percent
New Mexico -- 21 percent
Oregon -- 21 percent
Kentucky -- 20 percent
Louisiana -- 20 percent
Tennessee -- 20 percent
Alabama -- 19 percent
Georgia -- 19 percent
STATE BY STATE
In the tri-state area, here are how many people are expected to receive SNAP benefits next year, the percent of the population and the average benefit per month:
* Tennessee: More than 1.3 million, about 20 percent of the population, average monthly benefit:$272
* Georgia: More than 1.9 million, 19 percent of the population,$296
* Alabama: About 910,000, 19 percent,$281
Remember the War On Poverty?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/saul-friedman/r...

What Inspired Robert F. Kennedy’s Fight Against Hunger

http://billmoyers.com/content/what-inspired-r...

Now look here at the difference between the Democrats thinking in the 1930's and todays Democrats which is the big difference.

How food stamps morphed from temporary relief to permanent entitlement

Issue: "Food stamps surge," Nov. 19, 2011
Posted Nov. 7, 2011, Marvin Olasky

FDR was right too when he said and acknowledged the danger of welfare programs becoming "a habit with the country."

In November 1933, FDR said, "When any man or woman goes on a dole something happens to them mentally and the quicker they are taken off the dole the better it is for them the rest of their lives."

Early in 1935 Roosevelt argued, "We must preserve not only the bodies of the unemployed from destitution but also their self-respect, their self-reliance and courage and determination."

http://www.worldmag.com/2011/11/changing_atti...
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"Food stamp" benefits, serving 47 million people, were cut by $5 billion last Friday and Congress is debating billions of dollars in further cuts.

Yet 50 billionaires received $20.3 million in farm subsidies this year.

Those billionaires receiving farm subsidies do not farm professionally, nor do they need the government assistance they receive. To add insult to injury, these billionaires also receive large annual crop insurance payments subsidized by taxpayers. Over the last 17 years,$44 billion in federal insurance subsidies were paid out to those Billionaires – are we stupid or what?
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From 1964 to 1972 all Southern Democrats with the exception of 2 Senators, one in Tennessee, and another in West Virginia converted to Republican and today are the base of the Social Conservative Republican Party in the South.

The signing of the Civil and Voting Rights Act by LBJ was the lynch pin (no pun intended) in Southern Democrats leaving the Democratic Party.

Up through 1970, the Southern Democrats were still active in subjugating the constitutional protections of minorities in the south and at various points the President had to enforce constitutional protections by calling in Armed Forces to protect American citizens residing in the region.
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<quoted text>Confederate states were the Democrats.
Southern Democrats are members of the U.S. Democratic Party who reside in the American South.
In the 19th century, Southern Democrats comprised whites in the South who believed in Jacksonian democracy. In the 1850s they held that slavery was a good thing and promoted its expansion into the West. After Reconstruction ended in the late 1870s they controlled all the Southern states and disfranchised the blacks (who were Republicans). The "Solid South" gave nearly all its electoral votes to Democrats in presidential elections. Republicans seldom were elected to office outside some mountain districts.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_Democra...
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Food Stamp aid in Virginia and Pennsylvania is temporary relief. There is a limit on how long recipients can receive the aid and the aid is means tested.

Here in Virginia military families are the biggest demographic using Food Stamps. The starting salary of individuals in the military is equivalent to minimum wage, An E3 earns approx $16,000 and with a Kid and a wife, he may earn $18,000 and receive housing assistance.

By no means can someone other than a Senior Citizen and someone disabled receive a continued draw in food stamps in those two states, but in those two states because of the higher median incomes, typical able bodied citizens don't depend on Federal Aid to survive.

Now in the basins of poverty through out the South and particularly in Republican leaning Red States well those income levels are much lower and more of their citizens surviving below the poverty level depend on Federal Programs to exist. So the dependency your post warns against speaks directly to those Republican States and Districts especially in those Republican States where 1 in 5 Citizens depend on Food Stamps to Eat.

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<quoted text>Remember the War On Poverty?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/saul-friedman/r...
What Inspired Robert F. Kennedy’s Fight Against Hunger
http://billmoyers.com/content/what-inspired-r...
Now look here at the difference between the Democrats thinking in the 1930's and todays Democrats which is the big difference.
How food stamps morphed from temporary relief to permanent entitlement
Issue: "Food stamps surge," Nov. 19, 2011
Posted Nov. 7, 2011, Marvin Olasky
FDR was right too when he said and acknowledged the danger of welfare programs becoming "a habit with the country."
In November 1933, FDR said, "When any man or woman goes on a dole something happens to them mentally and the quicker they are taken off the dole the better it is for them the rest of their lives."
Early in 1935 Roosevelt argued, "We must preserve not only the bodies of the unemployed from destitution but also their self-respect, their self-reliance and courage and determination."
http://www.worldmag.com/2011/11/changing_atti...
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"part of the reason was the hostility of the Republicans and segregationist Southern Democrats to the array of Johnson's civil rights and anti-poverty campaign."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/saul-friedman/r...

Did you bother to read the attached article?

"In 1964, 19 percent of Americans lived below the poverty line; the numbers of poor Americans was estimated at a shameful 50 million. That declined to 12.8 percent in 1968, and 11.1 percent as late as 1973. But after that brief decline in the poverty rates, since Reagan's speech in 1988 and his emphasis on the "truly needy," poverty in the United States has made a slow climb upwards to the 2008 rate of 13.2 percent, nearly one percent higher than in 2007, the most significant increase since 1994. And that doesn't count the near-poor who live desperately just above the poverty line."

You may try and cite this as a democrat problem but it's been the Republicans over the decades since 1964 who have delved into those programs by cutting the measures designed to help the poorer populations in America, most of whom residing in their States and Districts through out the country, be them in the South, the Appalachian Region or in the Plain States across America.

For decades before the internet and access to information contained in Federal Reports, Politicians could use old stereotypes to case Dispersion of the truth and fact. That is not a strategy that works any more. The poorer and more dependent Americans aren't in the cities of Chicago, Detroit or New York, but littered in the swatches of States across America predominately in the Southern Region and through out the Appalachian Mountain Region of America. The very places designated economic wastelands with no commercial activity and or tax base.
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<quoted text>Remember the War On Poverty?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/saul-friedman/r...
What Inspired Robert F. Kennedy’s Fight Against Hunger
http://billmoyers.com/content/what-inspired-r...
Now look here at the difference between the Democrats thinking in the 1930's and todays Democrats which is the big difference.
How food stamps morphed from temporary relief to permanent entitlement
Issue: "Food stamps surge," Nov. 19, 2011
Posted Nov. 7, 2011, Marvin Olasky
FDR was right too when he said and acknowledged the danger of welfare programs becoming "a habit with the country."
In November 1933, FDR said, "When any man or woman goes on a dole something happens to them mentally and the quicker they are taken off the dole the better it is for them the rest of their lives."
Early in 1935 Roosevelt argued, "We must preserve not only the bodies of the unemployed from destitution but also their self-respect, their self-reliance and courage and determination."
http://www.worldmag.com/2011/11/changing_atti...

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Eric Gustafson wrote:
"part of the reason was the hostility of the Republicans and segregationist Southern Democrats to the array of Johnson's civil rights and anti-poverty campaign."
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/saul-friedman/r...
Did you bother to read the attached article?
"In 1964, 19 percent of Americans lived below the poverty line; the numbers of poor Americans was estimated at a shameful 50 million. That declined to 12.8 percent in 1968, and 11.1 percent as late as 1973. But after that brief decline in the poverty rates, since Reagan's speech in 1988 and his emphasis on the "truly needy," poverty in the United States has made a slow climb upwards to the 2008 rate of 13.2 percent, nearly one percent higher than in 2007, the most significant increase since 1994. And that doesn't count the near-poor who live desperately just above the poverty line."
You may try and cite this as a democrat problem but it's been the Republicans over the decades since 1964 who have delved into those programs by cutting the measures designed to help the poorer populations in America, most of whom residing in their States and Districts through out the country, be them in the South, the Appalachian Region or in the Plain States across America.
For decades before the internet and access to information contained in Federal Reports, Politicians could use old stereotypes to case Dispersion of the truth and fact. That is not a strategy that works any more. The poorer and more dependent Americans aren't in the cities of Chicago, Detroit or New York, but littered in the swatches of States across America predominately in the Southern Region and through out the Appalachian Mountain Region of America. The very places designated economic wastelands with no commercial activity and or tax base.
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yeah I read the left wing article but point is nothing has change and those have no desire to change and all it was for was a photo op for the Democrats to promote the liberal cause that they knew was never going to produce nothing except more people on the entitlement system which they have proven FDR right.

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Why should military wives and children get food stamps? After all, their husbands rake in a big 18 thou every year! Next thing you know they'll ask for running water and clothing!
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<quoted text>yeah I read the left wing article but point is nothing has change and those have no desire to change and all it was for was a photo op for the Democrats to promote the liberal cause that they knew was never going to produce nothing except more people on the entitlement system which they have proven FDR right.
Well that argument doesn't hold water being there was a decline in poverty in America from the 19% and 47 Million in 1964, down to @ 13% of the population in 1978 but began to elevate under the administration of Reagan and again Bush in 2007 to what it is today at 50 Million.

Policies implemented by a majority party have a direct impact on poverty in America and it's people. We all know the fever for cuts to programs designated to help lift the poor out of poverty and provide training and education opportunities, that the Republicans love to butcher to provide tax cuts.

That same formula is evident today in the cuts Republicans support in those same programs.

It certainly seems to be more than a photo op given the numbers are at 50 million today after 34 years of cuts inspired by Republicans.
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Well that argument doesn't hold water being there was a decline in poverty in America from the 19% and 47 Million in 1964, down to @ 13% of the population in 1978 but began to elevate under the administration of Reagan and again Bush in 2007 to what it is today at 50 Million.
Policies implemented by a majority party have a direct impact on poverty in America and it's people. We all know the fever for cuts to programs designated to help lift the poor out of poverty and provide training and education opportunities, that the Republicans love to butcher to provide tax cuts.
That same formula is evident today in the cuts Republicans support in those same programs.
It certainly seems to be more than a photo op given the numbers are at 50 million today after 34 years of cuts inspired by Republicans.
Does hold water is the point and FDR proved it besides when people find out that they can get some for nothing and do not have to work for it their whole social and economical thinking changes which FDR was right there too which Detroit, MI has proven. The 1960's is when all this Liberal BS started and it has just gotten worse over the years and why poverty has increased because poverty has paid better than working just look at Detroit which I have had them tell me to my face that they choose poverty over working because they can get everything for nothing and don't have to work for it and the article below confirms it and what I am saying and what FDR was saying too which you can tell that you support this New Normal where Welfare is an occupation and advocate for it.

The New Normal: Welfare is Now America's Most Popular Occupation

http://www.ijreview.com/2013/11/91589-new-nor...
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So where's is the commercial activity in the Appalachian Region, or on the Plains to keep the citizens residing in those regions employed?

The South like those regions are economic sewers in America with no commercial activity to support the residents in those regions, thus contributing to the need for Federal Financial interventions.

There is nothing to work at in either area that provides hope of lifting themselves out of poverty. You can't tell poverty paid better than working by the look of life in those States that are economic waste lands..... that doesn't hold water. Some of those States have yet to celebrate 50 years of indoor plumbing. If you're to poor to have indoor toilets, that's can not be mischaracterized as paying more than workings by any standard.

But you give rise to the single issue of not having gainful employment in those states and regions that are the poorest in America. Some of the problem is basic access.
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<quoted text>Does hold water is the point and FDR proved it besides when people find out that they can get some for nothing and do not have to work for it their whole social and economical thinking changes which FDR was right there too which Detroit, MI has proven. The 1960's is when all this Liberal BS started and it has just gotten worse over the years and why poverty has increased because poverty has paid better than working just look at Detroit which I have had them tell me to my face that they choose poverty over working because they can get everything for nothing and don't have to work for it and the article below confirms it and what I am saying and what FDR was saying too which you can tell that you support this New Normal where Welfare is an occupation and advocate for it.
The New Normal: Welfare is Now America's Most Popular Occupation
http://www.ijreview.com/2013/11/91589-new-nor...

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So where's is the commercial activity in the Appalachian Region, or on the Plains to keep the citizens residing in those regions employed?
The South like those regions are economic sewers in America with no commercial activity to support the residents in those regions, thus contributing to the need for Federal Financial interventions.
There is nothing to work at in either area that provides hope of lifting themselves out of poverty. You can't tell poverty paid better than working by the look of life in those States that are economic waste lands..... that doesn't hold water. Some of those States have yet to celebrate 50 years of indoor plumbing. If you're to poor to have indoor toilets, that's can not be mischaracterized as paying more than workings by any standard.
But you give rise to the single issue of not having gainful employment in those states and regions that are the poorest in America. Some of the problem is basic access.
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If you were around during the Great Depression and needed a job people didn't set around they would be packed up and moved to where the work was not like today where the modern liberals got people believing you set a home and Collect Welfare instead which is what your advocating and you see nothing wrong with that and what are liberals going to when the money runs out just like they have always done which is go out and tax more to keep the wealth redistribution SCAM going.
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Only problem is those aren't liberals in those Republican Leaning regions and States basking in poverty, collecting welfare and riding the dole of the public they are republican voting and supporting constituents. So your analysis is more than a little off base.

All I'm advocating is truth, and that's the predominate slackers in America live and support republican ideology and depend on the financial contributions into the US Treasury from liberals in Northern Blue States to survive. That's not philosophical but a concrete fact supported by the evidence and has been a custom for better than 3 decades consecutively.

During the great Bush Recession from 2006 to now, those poor people in those States and Congressional District in the South and along the Appalachian Region haven't relocated to find economic prosperity or work, they're wallowing in the basins of poverty waiting on a monthly distribution from their Liberal provides in the North. And the recent census reports bare those facts to be the reality.
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<quoted text>If you were around during the Great Depression and needed a job people didn't set around they would be packed up and moved to where the work was not like today where the modern liberals got people believing you set a home and Collect Welfare instead which is what your advocating and you see nothing wrong with that and what are liberals going to when the money runs out just like they have always done which is go out and tax more to keep the wealth redistribution SCAM going.

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Only problem is those aren't liberals in those Republican Leaning regions and States basking in poverty, collecting welfare and riding the dole of the public they are republican voting and supporting constituents. So your analysis is more than a little off base.
All I'm advocating is truth, and that's the predominate slackers in America live and support republican ideology and depend on the financial contributions into the US Treasury from liberals in Northern Blue States to survive. That's not philosophical but a concrete fact supported by the evidence and has been a custom for better than 3 decades consecutively.
During the great Bush Recession from 2006 to now, those poor people in those States and Congressional District in the South and along the Appalachian Region haven't relocated to find economic prosperity or work, they're wallowing in the basins of poverty waiting on a monthly distribution from their Liberal provides in the North. And the recent census reports bare those facts to be the reality.
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Liberals sure are and this is all a product of the Liberal's Great Society and I have been down around those people in the South and along the Appalachian Region when I was down there working and those people that are now on the Welfare System and have been for years are not going to change or move to look for work like they did years ago because now they get a welfare check and I remember watching a PBS Documentary film that said the same thing about the people in the Appalachian Region that they prefer welfare instead of looking for work or working which is another example and reason why we need to eliminate these Welfare programs altogether because Roosevelt himself acknowledged the danger of welfare programs becoming "a habit with the country." In November 1933, he said, "When any man or woman goes on a dole something happens to them mentally and the quicker they are taken off the dole the better it is for them the rest of their lives." Early in 1935 Roosevelt argued, "We must preserve not only the bodies of the unemployed from destitution but also their self-respect, their self-reliance and courage and determination."

http://www.worldmag.com/2011/11/changing_atti...
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So they're Conservatives at the base of the Republican party who are dependent on Federal Spending....... that's what I've been saying.

Those are districts and States that overwhelmingly support and vote for the Republican Candidate by more than 70% and those people are damn proud of their ideology and the Republicans in Congress who represent them and send home the bacon.
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<quoted text>Liberals sure are and this is all a product of the Liberal's Great Society and I have been down around those people in the South and along the Appalachian Region when I was down there working and those people that are now on the Welfare System and have been for years are not going to change or move to look for work like they did years ago because now they get a welfare check and I remember watching a PBS Documentary film that said the same thing about the people in the Appalachian Region that they prefer welfare instead of looking for work or working which is another example and reason why we need to eliminate these Welfare programs altogether because Roosevelt himself acknowledged the danger of welfare programs becoming "a habit with the country." In November 1933, he said, "When any man or woman goes on a dole something happens to them mentally and the quicker they are taken off the dole the better it is for them the rest of their lives." Early in 1935 Roosevelt argued, "We must preserve not only the bodies of the unemployed from destitution but also their self-respect, their self-reliance and courage and determination."
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So they're Conservatives at the base of the Republican party who are dependent on Federal Spending....... that's what I've been saying.
Those are districts and States that overwhelmingly support and vote for the Republican Candidate by more than 70% and those people are damn proud of their ideology and the Republicans in Congress who represent them and send home the bacon.
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I am not denying that there is Modern Liberals within the Republican Party which there is which I have said that all along which GW Bush is a prime example of that but its the the welfare recipents who side with the Liberal Democrats in the general elections and Modern Liberal Democrats know it which welfare is a means to buy votes and the Modern Democrat Liberals are proud of this Ideology of theirs that Uncle Sam will give people something for nothing and Ben Franklin is right when he said "When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic" just exactly what the Modern Liberals Democrats are doing with their Ideaology and that is their agenda to herald the end of the United States as we know it.

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Where are those Lincoln letters to Marx you told us about, AnalOriface?

You pathetic lying momma's boy!

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Where are those Lincoln letters to Marx you told us about, AnalOriface?
You pathetic lying momma's boy!
your a prime example of a Liberal that is in denial that continues to deny the facts when they were presented and we know your momma failed terribly trying to abort you herself and now we the taxpayers are paying for it.

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<quoted text>your a prime example of a Liberal that is in denial that continues to deny the facts .
Of course you're noted for your knobbers, AnalOriface, that, and you inability to prove anything you say.

How lucky for you you can prove me wrong by showing everyone a link to those letters!

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Of course you're noted for your knobbers, AnalOriface, that, and you inability to prove anything you say.
How lucky for you you can prove me wrong by showing everyone a link to those letters!
We now what you are noted for which is pure stupidity and Idiocity which you have proven and can't proven anyone wrong.

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