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Protestant militants target Northern Ireland party

There are 239 comments on the SFGate story from Dec 6, 2012, titled Protestant militants target Northern Ireland party. In it, SFGate reports that:

Police Service of Northern Ireland officers move forward to protect Belfast City Hall as a Protestant mob approaches, in Northern Ireland, Monday, Dec.

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Since: Nov 10

Dublin

#103 Dec 8, 2012
I can read wrote:
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For one thing you decided they are all the same and that it was fine for you to lump them all together into a group you call 'the prods'.
Meanwhile in the same post I said:

''I just don't get why we're all so hated by yous up there when we don't feel the same down here...''

ICR, mistakes reconciliatory comments for bigotry.

Who's a clever boy....
I can read

Edinburgh, UK

#104 Dec 8, 2012
Dubbadub wrote:
Funny how ICR gets offended by me calling Protestant people ''Prods''
Yet says nothing when certain people call Irish Catholics ''the scum of the earth''.
What a one sided bigot....
Scotland has a problem with anti-Irish bigotry, so its not surprising.
You asked for an example of you being a bigot.

You got one.

Now you're crying because I didn't do the same for anyone else?

None of them were delusional or narcissistic enough to ask, were they?

Yup, they might be bigots just the same as you but they're a lot more honest and realistic.
I can read

Edinburgh, UK

#105 Dec 8, 2012
Dubbadub wrote:
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Meanwhile in the same post I said:
''I just don't get why we're all so hated by yous up there when we don't feel the same down here...''
ICR, mistakes reconciliatory comments for bigotry.
Who's a clever boy....
The bigot thinks that a delusional claim that all people in the north are full of hate towards the South is 'reconciliatory'.

Delusional and narcissistic.

Since: Nov 10

Dublin

#106 Dec 8, 2012
I can read wrote:
<quoted text>
You asked for an example of you being a bigot.
You got one.
Now you're crying because I didn't do the same for anyone else?
None of them were delusional or narcissistic enough to ask, were they?
Yup, they might be bigots just the same as you but they're a lot more honest and realistic.
So this comment:
Dubbadub wrote:
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What did I ever say about Prods that was ''bigotted''?
I slagged off Paisley and the shouting and roaring and all that, but thats true you know that yourself.
I just don't get why we're all so hated by yous up there when we don't feel the same down here...
Shows I'm a bigot? Strange......

''Now you're crying because I didn't do the same for anyone else?
None of them were delusional or narcissistic enough to ask, were they?''

You jumped in on my comment (which was addressed to a different person), and no one elses. Strange that isn't it? You felt the need to try and make me out a bigot for saying the word ''Prods'', yet I've never seen you scold anyone else for making clear anti Irish remarks such as ''scum of the earth''.....

Time to be honest with yourself, and recognise your own bigotry....

Since: Nov 10

Dublin

#107 Dec 8, 2012
I can read wrote:
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The bigot thinks that a delusional claim that all people in the north are full of hate towards the South is 'reconciliatory'.
Delusional and narcissistic.
There is more hatred for the ROI in NI, than for NI in the ROI.

Are you going to deny this now too?

It wouldn't be advisable....
Allymac

Glasgow, UK

#108 Dec 8, 2012
Dubbadub wrote:
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There is more hatred for the ROI in NI, than for NI in the ROI.
Are you going to deny this now too?
It wouldn't be advisable....
Why not????
I can read

Edinburgh, UK

#109 Dec 8, 2012
Dubbadub wrote:
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There is more hatred for the ROI in NI, than for NI in the ROI.
Are you going to deny this now too?
It wouldn't be advisable....
That wasn't what you claimed though, was it?
Irish bigot wrote:
I just don't get why we're all so hated by yous up there
I can read

Edinburgh, UK

#110 Dec 8, 2012
Dubbadub wrote:
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So this comment:
<quoted text>
Shows I'm a bigot? Strange......
''Now you're crying because I didn't do the same for anyone else?
None of them were delusional or narcissistic enough to ask, were they?''
You jumped in on my comment (which was addressed to a different person), and no one elses. Strange that isn't it? You felt the need to try and make me out a bigot for saying the word ''Prods'', yet I've never seen you scold anyone else for making clear anti Irish remarks such as ''scum of the earth''.....
Time to be honest with yourself, and recognise your own bigotry....
None of the people you mention were stupid enough to ask others to give an example of them being bigoted.

Time to be honest with yourself and recognise your own ego.

You support terrorists who killed civillians and claim they were really just soldiers yet cringe at the thought the British army might also treat them like soldiers and just shoot them.

Since: Nov 10

Dublin

#111 Dec 8, 2012
Allymac wrote:
<quoted text>Why not????
Because it is obvious that what I've said is true.

Easy example: Where are all the yearly bonfires in the ROI that burn union flags? None.

There are plenty of yearly bonfires in NI that burn Irish tricolours.

Thats one example of many....

Since: Nov 10

Dublin

#112 Dec 8, 2012
I can read wrote:
<quoted text>
That wasn't what you claimed though, was it?
<quoted text>
Yet you completely ignore what was meant by that comment.

Also, there is another comment on that page where I talked of the things in common between the two ''historic'' communities on the island. You managed to pass that one too. How convienient.

Since: Nov 10

Dublin

#113 Dec 8, 2012
I can read wrote:
<quoted text>
None of the people you mention were stupid enough to ask others to give an example of them being bigoted.
Time to be honest with yourself and recognise your own ego.
You support terrorists who killed civillians and claim they were really just soldiers yet cringe at the thought the British army might also treat them like soldiers and just shoot them.
You jumped in on my comment though, and no one elses.

Its strange, your so quick to condemn me for saying ''Prods'' while ignoring the other comment which talked of the things in common. Yet I have yet to see you condemn any clear anti-Irish comments on topix.

Why are you so offended by me anyway? I don't understand all of this ''ego'' business. Just because I debate things on here, I have an ''ego'' apparently.

I condemn attacks where civilians have been killed. No matter who done it.

However, and be serious here, what was the alternative for the Nationalist community in the late 1960's early 1970's? While they were under attack by a Protestant Police Militia (B-Specials) and Loyalist gangs, before the PIRA formed, what was the alternative? Keep on being attacked ? Lay down and die? Why are you content to bury your head in the sand concerning this period of NI's history? You appear to be happy to do that, remember when you laughably claimed there were no civil rights violations in NI?

Since: Mar 12

Location hidden

#114 Dec 8, 2012
Dubbadub wrote:
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Yes, don't you enjoy those demonstrations that are aimed mostly at one religious group? Usually involving a group of men going around shouting anti-Islamic slogans.
Regardless of who you support, not one far right party sit in the commons, even Sinn Fein would have more seats if they chose to take them....
i am not sure what your point is.....

are you trying to say that because no far right party holds a seat in the Commons that makes it acceptable for the IRA to murder people?
I can read

Edinburgh, UK

#115 Dec 8, 2012
Dubbadub wrote:
<quoted text>
You jumped in on my comment though, and no one elses.
Its strange, your so quick to condemn me for saying ''Prods'' while ignoring the other comment which talked of the things in common. Yet I have yet to see you condemn any clear anti-Irish comments on topix.
Why are you so offended by me anyway? I don't understand all of this ''ego'' business. Just because I debate things on here, I have an ''ego'' apparently.
I condemn attacks where civilians have been killed. No matter who done it.
However, and be serious here, what was the alternative for the Nationalist community in the late 1960's early 1970's? While they were under attack by a Protestant Police Militia (B-Specials) and Loyalist gangs, before the PIRA formed, what was the alternative? Keep on being attacked ? Lay down and die? Why are you content to bury your head in the sand concerning this period of NI's history? You appear to be happy to do that, remember when you laughably claimed there were no civil rights violations in NI?
Everyone else on this thread who is being bigoted seems to admit they are firmly entrenched on one side.

You've convinced yourself that you're neutral and deliberately ignore any proof to the contrary.

E.g you brought up civil rights again. I seem to remember you running away from such a discussion when I asked you what rights Protestants had that catholics didn't. You repeatedly claimed catholics had less rights but when pressed, couldn't name a single one.

So you repeatedly told lies which were tantamount to propoganda and when pulled up on it, you chose to ignore the facts. Like it or not, that's bigotry.

Since: Mar 12

Location hidden

#116 Dec 8, 2012
Dubbadub wrote:
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Haha I just looked up that Mitty thing there, as its before my time.
Least I don't pretend to be in the army like some on here, even so they pretend to be in the army and then slag off who they were facing, therefore discrediting themselves in the process. Smart fellas....
your posts get stranger all the time.

i don't pretend to be in the Army
i WAS in the Army
slagging off the verminous cowards of the IRA in no way discredits the British Army.
Allymac

Glasgow, UK

#117 Dec 8, 2012
Dubbadub wrote:
<quoted text>
Because it is obvious that what I've said is true.
Easy example: Where are all the yearly bonfires in the ROI that burn union flags? None.
There are plenty of yearly bonfires in NI that burn Irish tricolours.
Thats one example of many....
Burning flags is preferable to murdering people.Your nationalist community in NI burn Union flags and Ulster flags on their internment bonfires.....they also burn Israeli flags.You only seem to see what you want to see......a sign of bigotry.

Since: Nov 10

Dublin

#118 Dec 8, 2012
mikev483 wrote:
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i am not sure what your point is.....
are you trying to say that because no far right party holds a seat in the Commons that makes it acceptable for the IRA to murder people?
Mike Mike Mike your a funny bloke....

I'm just trying to show you, far right political movements have no support in the UK. Even Sinn Fein would have seats in the commons if they chose to take them.

The IRA is in the past, history now. They ended their campaign in 1997, yet your still oh so bitter about it? All the way over in little old England? I can understand Protestants in NI absolutely hating the IRA, particularly if their family or relatives were killed by them. But you choose to hate, its like a hobby.....

Since: Nov 10

Dublin

#119 Dec 8, 2012
I can read wrote:
<quoted text>
Everyone else on this thread who is being bigoted seems to admit they are firmly entrenched on one side.
You've convinced yourself that you're neutral and deliberately ignore any proof to the contrary.
E.g you brought up civil rights again. I seem to remember you running away from such a discussion when I asked you what rights Protestants had that catholics didn't. You repeatedly claimed catholics had less rights but when pressed, couldn't name a single one.
So you repeatedly told lies which were tantamount to propoganda and when pulled up on it, you chose to ignore the facts. Like it or not, that's bigotry.
No I'm not entirely neutral I of course have sympathies for the people who were looking for Civil Rights and equality. However I'm not a bigot. I don't hate Protestants because their Protestants, I'm happy with how NI is now, I'm quite happy for the people of NI to choose their future and it is only their choice not mine. I'm quite happy to see reconciliation with Unionists everywhere. I think all that is positive. I don't see how I'm a bigot?

They weren't treated equally. Are you denying this? On paper they may have had the same rights, but this clearly wasn't the case, are you denying this too?

Why was there a mass peaceful Civil Rights Movement in NI?

The lack of equality in NI that caused the peaceful Civil Rights Protests in the 1960's was ''propaganda'' and ''lies''?

Since: Nov 10

Dublin

#120 Dec 8, 2012
Allymac wrote:
<quoted text>Burning flags is preferable to murdering people.Your nationalist community in NI burn Union flags and Ulster flags on their internment bonfires.....they also burn Israeli flags.You only seem to see what you want to see......a sign of bigotry.
Your gone off the point. Remember we were talking about the hatred of the ROI in NI.

My point was that there is more hatred for the ROI in NI, than there is hatred for NI in the ROI.

Do you agree?

Many examples to back it up.....

Since: Mar 12

Location hidden

#121 Dec 8, 2012
Dubbadub wrote:
<quoted text>
Mike Mike Mike your a funny bloke....
I'm just trying to show you, far right political movements have no support in the UK. Even Sinn Fein would have seats in the commons if they chose to take them.
The IRA is in the past, history now. They ended their campaign in 1997, yet your still oh so bitter about it? All the way over in little old England? I can understand Protestants in NI absolutely hating the IRA, particularly if their family or relatives were killed by them. But you choose to hate, its like a hobby.....
you think it is wrong to hate the murderers of innocent men,women and children?

well,Walter i dont.

Since: Nov 10

Dublin

#122 Dec 8, 2012
mikev483 wrote:
<quoted text>
your posts get stranger all the time.
i don't pretend to be in the Army
i WAS in the Army
slagging off the verminous cowards of the IRA in no way discredits the British Army.
Where did you serve?

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