Paul: Ferguson shooting criticism jus...

Paul: Ferguson shooting criticism justified

There are 22 comments on the The Hill story from Aug 24, 2014, titled Paul: Ferguson shooting criticism justified. In it, The Hill reports that:

Sen. Rand Paul said Sunday that critics of the shooting of an unarmed black teenager in Ferguson, Mo.

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Cat74

Wilmington, IL

#1 Aug 24, 2014
Justified? Every incident regarding a black is obviously racist. Has Paul not read anything about the shooting. It is everywhere, and it pretty much proves the decorated police officer shot the charging, giant person, that had already assaulted him once, in self defense. This Senator is trying to pick up a couple black votes. I have news for him no black person will vote for him unless he holds the rope Al Sharpton uses to hang the police officer. This is disgusting, and it just disqualified Rand Paul from any serious elected office.

“JESUS WOULD IMPEACH THE GOP!!!”

Since: May 09

Lake Success, N.Y.

#2 Aug 24, 2014
Cat74 wrote:
Justified? Every incident regarding a black is obviously racist. Has Paul not read anything about the shooting. It is everywhere, and it pretty much proves the decorated police officer shot the charging, giant person, that had already assaulted him once, in self defense. This Senator is trying to pick up a couple black votes. I have news for him no black person will vote for him unless he holds the rope Al Sharpton uses to hang the police officer. This is disgusting, and it just disqualified Rand Paul from any serious elected office.
First off Cnutnip74, the cop has been on the force for 6 years - no one ever cited decorations except you. Nothing on the media to verify this BS, so stop ya whining.
Next, the incident report released was BLANK! Totally trying to hide something. You nor anyone else has all the facts yet moron.
Everything Faux News said regarding the cops supposed injuries - such as a broken eye socket - were already debunked as complete fabrication. You don't know anything yet, because the police refuse to give any information.
Finally, three separate eyewitness accounts stated the cop was at least 20 ft. away from MB you imbecile. And the cop GOT OUT OF HIS CAR TO PERSUE MB! All shots including the two head wounds came AFTER he got out of his car.
Dead Eye

Cookeville, TN

#3 Aug 24, 2014
Reprimand this officer.
He shot maybe five or six times.
It appears he needs a remedial coarse in fire-arms.
Cat74

Wilmington, IL

#4 Aug 24, 2014
The officer was allowed to pursue the criminal after he was attacked to prevent the hopped up giant man from attacking anyone else. He had to prevent the criminal escaping. Missouri law allows deadly force if the police officer, or the community was in danger.
Cat74

Wilmington, IL

#5 Aug 24, 2014
The witnesses for Michael Brown are all young criminals. The one was an accomplice in a robbery with MB. I will take my sources over yours any day Tony. I come from a family of Chicago police officers. They have access to all sorts of information even the newspapers don't have yet.
Responsibility

Petaluma, CA

#6 Aug 24, 2014
Cat74 wrote:
I will take my sources over yours any day Tony..
The National Enquirer, Fux and the strange ignorant websites are not legitimate "sources".

Wasn't you and yours who told us the cop was black. Seems that "source" was wrong. Seems the cop's so-called injuries are wrong. Btw. was the cop standing over the body, the same cop who shot the teenager? Looked pretty fine to me? What do you think? You boys question whether he was going to college, despite his mothers comments. It must be too bad that we have photos of the young man graduating from high school otherwise you would lie about that too.

Btw, the incidence reports were a joke and even the most whitest of white folks must have some questions about their reliability and credibility. Perhaps in the future we will know the truth - from reliable sources?
Gary

Bellingham, WA

#7 Aug 24, 2014
Cat74 wrote:
The witnesses for Michael Brown are all young criminals. The one was an accomplice in a robbery with MB. I will take my sources over yours any day Tony. I come from a family of Chicago police officers. They have access to all sorts of information even the newspapers don't have yet.
Oh, Bullsh*t!
Cat74

Wilmington, IL

#8 Aug 24, 2014
How about you wait, I am convinced my information is correct. When the rest of the story comes out you will see I was right. I was even right about Michaels juvie records.
Cordwainer Trout

Elizabethtown, KY

#9 Aug 24, 2014
TonyT1961 wrote:
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First off Cnutnip74, the cop has been on the force for 6 years - no one ever cited decorations except you. Nothing on the media to verify this BS, so stop ya whining.
Next, the incident report released was BLANK! Totally trying to hide something. You nor anyone else has all the facts yet moron.
Everything Faux News said regarding the cops supposed injuries - such as a broken eye socket - were already debunked as complete fabrication. You don't know anything yet, because the police refuse to give any information.
Finally, three separate eyewitness accounts stated the cop was at least 20 ft. away from MB you imbecile. And the cop GOT OUT OF HIS CAR TO PERSUE MB! All shots including the two head wounds came AFTER he got out of his car.
You say "debunked as a complete fabrication." The only source claiming that is a CNN source, who uses an unidentified "source close to the investigation", that even Salon admits is a bogus claim. CNN has already been identified as putting the officer's life, his family, his home and his community in danger. CNN is guilty of inciting civil breakdowns. No news source identifying the officer's injuries otherwise is guilty of inciting riots and looting... only CNN and Washington Post. Any sane society would arrest your source of worthless information.

Otherwise, your childish dopiness asserts that police officers attacked and injured to some degree should let the felons escape. Maybe your solution would be to hold a rock concert and share a bunch of dope.
Cat74

Wilmington, IL

#10 Aug 24, 2014
The information isn't debunked in credible sources. The story of what Mr Brown was, is much like Trayvon. The Community tried to make them appear normal, but they were both under the influence of narcotics at the time of their attacks.
Responsibility

Petaluma, CA

#11 Aug 24, 2014
Cordwainer Trout wrote:
<quoted text>an unidentified "source close to the investigation",
.
Those pesky anonymous sources are as reliable as the enquirer, fux and those websites who fantasize, lie and make assumptions. Perhaps the shooting incidence report(s) will be more forthcoming! Loll
smarty pants

Charleston, WV

#12 Aug 24, 2014
TonyT1961 wrote:
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First off Cnutnip74, the cop has been on the force for 6 years - no one ever cited decorations except you. Nothing on the media to verify this BS, so stop ya whining.
Next, the incident report released was BLANK! Totally trying to hide something. You nor anyone else has all the facts yet moron.
Everything Faux News said regarding the cops supposed injuries - such as a broken eye socket - were already debunked as complete fabrication. You don't know anything yet, because the police refuse to give any information.
Finally, three separate eyewitness accounts stated the cop was at least 20 ft. away from MB you imbecile. And the cop GOT OUT OF HIS CAR TO PERSUE MB! All shots including the two head wounds came AFTER he got out of his car.
Ok, now comes Tony the Tiger, criticizing someone for not being factual. Yet, Tony the Tiger states the reported fractured orbital has been "debunked as complete fabrication", with no proof of such "debunking". Link, anything? I heard CNN and FOX news reporting this orbital story, one saying yes, one saying no, but BOTH claiming anonymous sources for their information. You got anything more than that, Tony the Tiger, with PROOF? One story must be correct, but with anonymous people, we really can't say which is true, can we? Further, I believe the cop was in need of arresting MB, for a couple things: suspected robbery (yep. Cop saw those damn cigars.) and it appears he was going to arrest him for assault of a police officer...HIMSELF. Minimally, those are a couple of reasons the cop needed to get out of his car. Or, maybe Tony the Tiger is of the mindset, brilliant as he is, that cop should just remain inside his car and let MB go, or even better, yell and ask MB to "come here little boy. I'd like to have a talk with you if you have the time." You did manage to get one thing right...the 2 head woulds came after the cop exited his patrol car. But, I kinda think MB had something wrong with his head long before the day he died. Now, go plaster yourself back onto the front of your cereal box. That's a GR-R-REAT place for you to be!
Prides Crossing

Beverly, MA

#13 Aug 24, 2014
If Mike was white, there would be a different kind of outrage by the Tea Party. The "don't tread on me" freaks would be citing all kinds of tyrannical slogans and making sure that folks would feel like the government is out to get them.

But let there be a question about a black person being shot, choked, beaten, and well, that is somehow ok and any question or outrage is seen as agitation.

Where was all this concern for abiding the law when Clive Bundy was acting the fool? He and his supporters are armed. Yet none of them ever once got tear gassed, pepper sprayed, or shot with rubber bullets.

Imagine this many blacks protesting and armed? This kind of heavy handed law enforcement will bring about the very thing that white tea party folks fear the most.

So if the white tea party folks want the government out of their business, they might want to start by supporting the protestors in these incidents. The two groups might have more in common than they realized.

Last time I checked, neither are keen on armored tanks rolling down the street, right?
Cat74

Wilmington, IL

#14 Aug 24, 2014
When was the last time a white person charged a police officer right after he robbed a bunch of Cigars? When was the last time a white guy reached into a police car, and pummeled an officer, hitting him so hard he broke his eye socket? Don't you think when the police officer experienced such an attack he might be in a hurry to get the crazy giant off the streets, and away from ordinary people? Michael was a known felon. The officer had every right to use deadly force to protect himself, and the community from such a creature.
Cordwainer Trout

Elizabethtown, KY

#15 Aug 24, 2014
Paul's comments repeatedly said there was every indication the Black reaction in Ferguson had nothing to do with race.

“There’s a very good chance that this had nothing to do with race, but because of the arrests and the way people are arrested, everybody perceives as, my goodness, the police are out to get us,” Paul continued.“That’s why you have to change the whole war on drugs.”

Agreed we should change the war on drugs. We should start executing every person found dealing drugs, summarily in the streets, and leaving their body to rot, hanging from a lamppost.
haw wa yun

Kapaa, HI

#16 Aug 24, 2014
Dead Eye wrote:
Reprimand this officer.
He shot maybe five or six times.
It appears he needs a remedial coarse in fire-arms.
You need a remedial course in ballistics. Some of those shots were in the hand or arm, which won't slow down anybody, much less someone like Michael Brown, who was built like an NFL linebacker. He also was probably using a 9mm, not a pocket-bazooka along the lines of a 44 Magnum. After being beaten severely about the face, he probably could not see very well and was stunned (if not also beginning to lose consciousness), so firing wildly was all he could do.

When you attack someone with a firearm, don't be surprised if they shoot you. The police are not required to engage you with equal force.
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“JESUS WOULD IMPEACH THE GOP!!!”

Since: May 09

Lake Success, N.Y.

#18 Aug 25, 2014
Cat74 wrote:
The witnesses for Michael Brown are all young criminals. The one was an accomplice in a robbery with MB. I will take my sources over yours any day Tony. I come from a family of Chicago police officers. They have access to all sorts of information even the newspapers don't have yet.
Scandal plagued Shitcago cops?

You think anyone believes your bullshit Cnutip74?

“JESUS WOULD IMPEACH THE GOP!!!”

Since: May 09

Lake Success, N.Y.

#19 Aug 25, 2014
Cat74 wrote:
When was the last time a white person charged a police officer right after he robbed a bunch of Cigars? When was the last time a white guy reached into a police car, and pummeled an officer, hitting him so hard he broke his eye socket? Don't you think when the police officer experienced such an attack he might be in a hurry to get the crazy giant off the streets, and away from ordinary people? Michael was a known felon. The officer had every right to use deadly force to protect himself, and the community from such a creature.
Again with the broken eye socket? All bullshit debunked you moron;



"Q - Why was no mention made of this injury until ten days after the shooting? We know that the FPD and SLC prosecutor were throwing everything out there they could find in their efforts to demonize Michael Brown and defend officer Wilson. If his injuries were as bad as they claim, there is no doubt in my mind that they would have been parading photos of his battered face all over the TV machine.

Q - In the autopsy report, the doctor claimed that there were no indications on Michael Brown's body of a physical struggle. Unless the doctor is quite incompetent, one would expect that this analysis included an examination of Michael's hands. If he had hit the cop so hard as to break his eye orbital, one would expect to see trauma to his hand and knuckles. No such trauma was reported.

Q - According to a timeline of the incident, there was an ambulance there within a few minutes as it was responding to another call in the area. While it was reported that they stopped to assess Michael Brown, there is no mention of them providing any sort of medical assistance to Wilson.

Q - Far from being attended to and taken to the hospital for care - things one would reasonable expect in such circumstances - officer Wilson DRIVES away in his cruiser. For a man who was moments ago almost knocked unconscious, this seems unreasonable as well. Why would the other officers allow him to drive if he had just undergone such a traumatic experience?

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/08/21/1323...
smarty pants

Charleston, WV

#20 Aug 25, 2014
TonyT1961 wrote:
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Again with the broken eye socket? All bullshit debunked you moron;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =_LzJVo4GIKYXX
"Q - Why was no mention made of this injury until ten days after the shooting? We know that the FPD and SLC prosecutor were throwing everything out there they could find in their efforts to demonize Michael Brown and defend officer Wilson. If his injuries were as bad as they claim, there is no doubt in my mind that they would have been parading photos of his battered face all over the TV machine.
Q - In the autopsy report, the doctor claimed that there were no indications on Michael Brown's body of a physical struggle. Unless the doctor is quite incompetent, one would expect that this analysis included an examination of Michael's hands. If he had hit the cop so hard as to break his eye orbital, one would expect to see trauma to his hand and knuckles. No such trauma was reported.
Q - According to a timeline of the incident, there was an ambulance there within a few minutes as it was responding to another call in the area. While it was reported that they stopped to assess Michael Brown, there is no mention of them providing any sort of medical assistance to Wilson.
Q - Far from being attended to and taken to the hospital for care - things one would reasonable expect in such circumstances - officer Wilson DRIVES away in his cruiser. For a man who was moments ago almost knocked unconscious, this seems unreasonable as well. Why would the other officers allow him to drive if he had just undergone such a traumatic experience?
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/08/21/1323...
Debunked? Now, where have I heard that word before? LMAO
smarty pants

Charleston, WV

#21 Aug 25, 2014
Cat74 wrote:
When was the last time a white person charged a police officer right after he robbed a bunch of Cigars? When was the last time a white guy reached into a police car, and pummeled an officer, hitting him so hard he broke his eye socket? Don't you think when the police officer experienced such an attack he might be in a hurry to get the crazy giant off the streets, and away from ordinary people? Michael was a known felon. The officer had every right to use deadly force to protect himself, and the community from such a creature.
Tony the Tiger is really pissed at you! I mean, look how hard he's working to try and put you in "your place"? He's using search engines and all that... Probably the most work he's done in a month or 2. All for a thieving gang member.

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