Grade School Graduation Canceled Afte...

Grade School Graduation Canceled After Anonymous Complaint About...

There are 101 comments on the TheBlaze.com story from May 9, 2013, titled Grade School Graduation Canceled After Anonymous Complaint About.... In it, TheBlaze.com reports that:

The Riverside School District in Lake City, Arkansas, has canceled its 6th-grade graduation ceremony after a parent protested over the inclusion of Christian prayer in the festivities.

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Parent

Jonesboro, AR

#1 May 9, 2013
Everyone knows who it is, Rhonda New.
zeddy

United States

#2 May 9, 2013
There are 3 other topics on this news, and they all have discussion going already.
Parent

Jonesboro, AR

#3 May 9, 2013
zeddy wrote:
There are 3 other topics on this news, and they all have discussion going already.
Rhonda I guess you are loving all the attention you are getting even though its negative attention. Do you not care enough about your own child to consider what you are doing to her?
zuppp
#4 May 9, 2013
i bet her child, and herself are very liked right now..
Parent

Jonesboro, AR

#5 May 9, 2013
DON'T blame the child!
Strel

Tallahassee, FL

#6 May 9, 2013
Parent wrote:
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Rhonda I guess you are loving all the attention you are getting even though its negative attention. Do you not care enough about your own child to consider what you are doing to her?
Do you think Arkansas schools are subject to the provisions of the First Amendment, and the authority of the courts to enforce it?

Because that is what this is really about, not trying to stalk and villify the whistleblower.

"Rhonda" happens to be correct. School SPONSORED prayer is unconstitutional.

Prayer, per se, is not. No matter how many times this important distinction is explained to fundamentalist yahoos, they pretend it does not exist.
thank bout it

Dallas, TX

#7 May 9, 2013
I'm a parent and yes it makes me mad. We have took pray out of everything and that is what is wrong with the world
. But in the bible it speaks of this. If the school allow it to go on and we pray than someone might want to pray to their god be it Satan which is no means a god or what ever other god they had. I don't know bout u but I don't want my child doing that. She or anyone else can not stop us praying to yourself if it was a moment of quite. She has not won cause we will not let her stop us.
Strel

Tallahassee, FL

#8 May 9, 2013
thank bout it wrote:
I'm a parent and yes it makes me mad. We have took pray out of everything and that is what is wrong with the world
. But in the bible it speaks of this. If the school allow it to go on and we pray than someone might want to pray to their god be it Satan which is no means a god or what ever other god they had. I don't know bout u but I don't want my child doing that. She or anyone else can not stop us praying to yourself if it was a moment of quite. She has not won cause we will not let her stop us.
I am also a parent, and you are dead wrong.

Prayer has not be driven from the public sphere, far from it. The same ACLU that is villified in ignorant articles and threads like these conducts dozens and dozens of cases protecting the rights of Christians and other religious groups to the free and public exercise of their religion.

But that is not what this situation is about. This is about school SPONSORED prayer. That is the distinction. That is what makes it unconstitutional.

Do you people not understand this, or do you just not want to understand it?

And yes, she will win this case, if the facts in the article are correct. It is truly a shame that you do not understand why, or why such things are important.
Strel

Tallahassee, FL

#9 May 9, 2013
"While parents understand that the district made the best decision it could at the time, she also decried the notion that rights would be taken away from Christian parents and afforded to non-believers."

Um, sorry, but while you of course have the right to pray, you do not have the right to have your prayers sponsored by a governmental entity.

So, what right has been taken from you, and who took it?

The school, not the ACLU, not a court, not a cop decided, on its own, to cancel the ENTIRE graduation rather than just cut out the part that violated the Constitution of the United States of America.

There is one bad guy in this story, and it is the school for cancelling graduation rather than to comply with the law of the land.

I hope they all get fired.
Guest

United States

#10 May 9, 2013
Strel wrote:
"While parents understand that the district made the best decision it could at the time, she also decried the notion that rights would be taken away from Christian parents and afforded to non-believers."
Um, sorry, but while you of course have the right to pray, you do not have the right to have your prayers sponsored by a governmental entity.
So, what right has been taken from you, and who took it?
The school, not the ACLU, not a court, not a cop decided, on its own, to cancel the ENTIRE graduation rather than just cut out the part that violated the Constitution of the United States of America.
There is one bad guy in this story, and it is the school for cancelling graduation rather than to comply with the law of the land.
I hope they all get fired.
I bet your therapist loves you!! "YAWN"
Strel

Tallahassee, FL

#11 May 9, 2013
Guest wrote:
<quoted text>I bet your therapist loves you!! "YAWN"
I wouldn't know, but thank you for your concern.

But since you are interested, do you have any actual comment on the topic of the thread?

Or can I take your post as a concession of the issue?
Donald

Blytheville, AR

#12 May 9, 2013
Parent wrote:
DON'T blame the child!
I don't think anyone is blaming the child, but I personally do worry about a child that is being raised by this woman. Can you just imagine what that child is going through right now, even if she appears to be fine and supports her Mom, what effect is this going to have on her in later years? Some people should not be allowed to have childern and in my opinion this woman is one of those people. I also can't understand how some people who call themselves christians, these people actually go to my Mom's church, can stand by this woman and call her their friend and let their childern go to her house. Doon't they realize what effect this woman and her beliefs can have on her kids? I would keep my kids as far away from her as possible, not to punish her child in any way but to protect my kids. I will pray for her and her family as well as for her "friends" who are supporting her. May God bless
Raktak

United States

#13 May 9, 2013
Donald wrote:
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I don't think anyone is blaming the child, but I personally do worry about a child that is being raised by this woman. Can you just imagine what that child is going through right now, even if she appears to be fine and supports her Mom, what effect is this going to have on her in later years? Some people should not be allowed to have childern and in my opinion this woman is one of those people. I also can't understand how some people who call themselves christians, these people actually go to my Mom's church, can stand by this woman and call her their friend and let their childern go to her house. Doon't they realize what effect this woman and her beliefs can have on her kids? I would keep my kids as far away from her as possible, not to punish her child in any way but to protect my kids. I will pray for her and her family as well as for her "friends" who are supporting her. May God bless
Religion does not dictate morality. Its not like people were killing each other until Jesus was born then suddenly stopped. Also, look at all the mass killers who were/are christains and that did not stop them from doing horrible things. If that is the only thing stopping you from going on a killing spree i hope you never have a faltering of faith.
pist off parent

United States

#14 May 9, 2013
That woman is wrong for complaining. How dare she. For years and years and years we had prayer at graduation. Its like a tradition. Its for God to be with us as we go threw school making sure we pass and dealing with the principals threw the schools some are so evil. Now my little brother is heart broken BC he doesn't get to graduate from 6 grade. Way to go ahole!!!! Hope you love the attention bitch!
Donald

Blytheville, AR

#15 May 9, 2013
Raktak....what in tarnation are you talking about I never said anything about killing anyone, guess you are not the brightest bulb in the box, huh? I was talking about the graduation and prayer and the people who are against it, way off topc there dude.
Donald

Blytheville, AR

#16 May 9, 2013
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schoolchoice

Carmel, IN

#17 May 9, 2013
Strel wrote:
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Do you think Arkansas schools are subject to the provisions of the First Amendment, and the authority of the courts to enforce it?
Because that is what this is really about, not trying to stalk and villify the whistleblower.
"Rhonda" happens to be correct. School SPONSORED prayer is unconstitutional.
Prayer, per se, is not. No matter how many times this important distinction is explained to fundamentalist yahoos, they pretend it does not exist.
The best way to deal with this nonsense is to quit subsidizing education and let the parents pay. A govt. education should be only for those who can't afford to pay. Transportation costs should also be funded by parents. That way, parents are free to educate their children the way they seem fit. The govt. really has no business dictating how their education is to be delivered. Put it in the hands of the parents, not the govt.

The school should absolutely include prayer because parents, teachers, students and administrators should have the freedom to do so as per the Constitution. This expression of faith is every person's right no matter if it is in a govt. place or not. Maybe they should have a prayer service first and begin the ceremony afterwards so the offended don't have to listen.

The whistleblower sets the example of intolerance. I feel so sorry for her child to have such a disgusting mother.
schoolchoice

Carmel, IN

#18 May 9, 2013
Raktak wrote:
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Religion does not dictate morality. Its not like people were killing each other until Jesus was born then suddenly stopped. Also, look at all the mass killers who were/are christains and that did not stop them from doing horrible things. If that is the only thing stopping you from going on a killing spree i hope you never have a faltering of faith.
Wow, some rant but we are talking about the right to say a short prayer before sixth graders graduate. Learn a little respect and tolerance.
Strel

Tallahassee, FL

#19 May 9, 2013
schoolchoice wrote:
<quoted text>The best way to deal with this nonsense is to quit subsidizing education and let the parents pay. A govt. education should be only for those who can't afford to pay. Transportation costs should also be funded by parents. That way, parents are free to educate their children the way they seem fit. The govt. really has no business dictating how their education is to be delivered. Put it in the hands of the parents, not the govt.
The school should absolutely include prayer because parents, teachers, students and administrators should have the freedom to do so as per the Constitution. This expression of faith is every person's right no matter if it is in a govt. place or not. Maybe they should have a prayer service first and begin the ceremony afterwards so the offended don't have to listen.
The whistleblower sets the example of intolerance. I feel so sorry for her child to have such a disgusting mother.
I understand your argument, but have you ever been to a PTA meeting?

Scary. Almost as scary as some school board meetings.

As for the faith issue, you are missing the point.

School sponsorship is the point. That is what makes it unconstitutional. It would be the same if the school tried to do it with a Muslim prayer, and boy howdy, how would ya'll react to that?

Because that's what you are arguing for, whether you realize it or not, and this mother you chide is helping to protect against that.

Public schools cannot SPONSOR prayers. I'm serious - why do you people just not get this?
Strel

Tallahassee, FL

#20 May 9, 2013
schoolchoice wrote:
<quoted text>Wow, some rant but we are talking about the right to say a short prayer before sixth graders graduate. Learn a little respect and tolerance.
Then do it without school sponsorship, on your own, and there's no problem.

Instead you want to expose the entire audience to proselytization, whether they like it or not.

Well someone didn't like it, and the law agrees with her.

Pray till your eyes bleed if you like, just don't have the school SPONSOR IT.

/facepalm

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