Obama presses case on "fiscal cliff" with Dimon, Buffett

Nov 19, 2012 Full story: Reuters 70

US President Barack Obama speaks during a joint media conference with Thai Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra at Government House in Bangkok November 18, 2012.

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responder

Columbus, OH

#23 Nov 19, 2012
Cat74 wrote:
The new Democrats are not just stupid enough to commit vote faud, they aren't even smart enough to hide it. 59 voting districts in one state, and not one Republican vote? Please. Only another Democrat would be stupid enough to believe that, and it happened time, and time again. That is fine, but don't then come and ask for respect for the President who stole his reelection. He did not earn our respect. Thankfully he cannot run for a third term.
When you can prove it, evil hag, go right ahead. You stole the election in 2000 and probably in 2004 as well, but have whined loudly ever since Mr. Obama was first elected despite NO evidence of Dem "voter fraud."

Just admit that you want to deny Dems the vote, and STFU.
responder

Columbus, OH

#24 Nov 19, 2012
Bob Lewis wrote:
<quoted text>
Me neither. But, millions of self loathing Whites either voted to assure the Orwellian Nightmare for their families or didn't even bother to Vote to stop it so it is what it is. We will adapt to being pitiful. North Koreans and Cubans did.
You and Inbred should keep it up, by all means see if you can impress the voters with your blatant racism, hatred, and craziness. THAT'LL keep the House for you in 2014, fer shure!!

LOL
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Since: Feb 07

Location hidden

#26 Nov 19, 2012
The FiscalCliff packaged as voters remorse always happens during the family holiday season.
I propose an 'Oath of Service Waiver',
those elected will agree to do their job in the time allotted or take a 1 year leave of absence, the district responsible for sending them loses representation for that time period and they can run on an emergency election in the next voting cycle.
Hollywood should not pick Presidents or Santa Claus

Since: Oct 08

Alpharetta, GA

#27 Nov 19, 2012
responder wrote:
<quoted text>
You and Inbred should keep it up, by all means see if you can impress the voters with your blatant racism, hatred, and craziness. THAT'LL keep the House for you in 2014, fer shure!!
LOL
thanks Harv, I always appreciate your appreciation. I'm not worried about a future in politics anyway, so I can tell the truth, I don't have to pander to the people who are ruining the former USA.

“Open your eyes”

Since: Sep 09

Central Florida

#28 Nov 19, 2012
responder wrote:
Embarrassing that Obama's begging a Wall St. thug like Dimon, one of the bastards who trashed our economy, for help. Dimon should be warming a jail cell, not offering the President help or advice.
This is correct. Are you starting to see the truth?
responder wrote:
But Obama's always compromised too much with these people, that's one reason the recovery's gone so slow. He wants to be one of them, but will never be invited into the 'rich white guys only' country club...
And then you write something like this. Which shows you are not starting to see it for what it truly is.

Top campaign contributors for both the D and R: Goldman Sach's, JP Morgan, Bank of America, CITI.....

It is what gamblers refer to as hedging their bets. No matter who wins, they win.

Both the Republicans and Democrats are bought and paid for. It has been this way for a long time. And for those that do not see it, they are blind.

It is Fascism, the merger of corporations and government.

Here is the symbol of Fascism: http://drkatesview.files.wordpress.com/2009/1...

Here is a picture from our House of Representatives: http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_O_L1W8HmE8E/TKE7MoN...

And what is that on each side of the American flag? Why none other than the symbols of Fascism.

George Carlin said it best, "They own you".
responder

Columbus, OH

#29 Nov 19, 2012
RayOne wrote:
The FiscalCliff packaged as voters remorse always happens during the family holiday season.
I propose an 'Oath of Service Waiver',
those elected will agree to do their job in the time allotted or take a 1 year leave of absence, the district responsible for sending them loses representation for that time period and they can run on an emergency election in the next voting cycle.
Hollywood should not pick Presidents or Santa Claus
You clearly signed a 'Waiver of Rational Thinking' some years ago...:)

Since: Mar 09

The Left Coast

#30 Nov 19, 2012
Kahoki wrote:
<quoted text>
No matter how much they tax everyone, it will not help.
I find it funny that Obama is meeting with the head banker fraudster in Jamie Dimon. As CEO, JP Morgan is exposed on $70+ trillion on unfunded derivatives. More than the nations GDP.
So they could tax 100% of everyones earnings and it will not matter. We cannot cover JP Morgan's derivative bets.
And that is just 1 company. Add in Goldman Sach's, CITI, Bank of NY Mellon, HSBC, Bank of America exposures in the derivatives markets and the world as a whole cannot cover it. We are F'd!
At least for now, the 'rich' people can afford to pay much more. We might as well use it.

“Open your eyes”

Since: Sep 09

Central Florida

#31 Nov 19, 2012
RustyS wrote:
<quoted text>
At least for now, the 'rich' people can afford to pay much more. We might as well use it.
But that is the thing. "We" cannot use it.

1984 Commission. A commission set up by Reagan for the determination of where our tax money goes to.

Their conclusion was:

“With two thirds of everyone’s personal income taxes wasted or not collected, 100 percent of what is collected is absorbed solely by interest on the federal debt and by federal government contributions to transfer payments. In other words, all individual income tax revenues are gone before one nickel is spent on the services [that] taxpayers expect from their government."
Eric Gustafson

Newport News, VA

#32 Nov 19, 2012
Cat74 wrote:
The new Democrats are not just stupid enough to commit vote faud, they aren't even smart enough to hide it. 59 voting districts in one state, and not one Republican vote? Please. Only another Democrat would be stupid enough to believe that, and it happened time, and time again. That is fine, but don't then come and ask for respect for the President who stole his reelection. He did not earn our respect. Thankfully he cannot run for a third term.
No, that was 59 in the City of Philadelphia, PA, and 9 in the City of Cleveland, OH, both in States Romney loss.

Also:

Obama Wins 8 of 10 Wealthiest Counties in US

By Paul Toscano | CNBC – Wed, Nov 7, 2012 11:50 AM EST

In an election that often focused on debates about class warfare, President Barack Obama was favored over multimillionaire businessman Mitt Romney in eight of the nation's 10 wealthiest counties.
And his margin of victory in all eight counties was greater than that of the national vote,

From the richest Americans, to the poorest Americans, all over America the Republican ideas and politics were thoroughly rejected.

You are fighting a loosing battle. Nobody identifies with you.
fatbacks x

West Linn, OR

#33 Nov 19, 2012
Responsibility wrote:
<quoted text>
Never believed that President Obama could fix all the evils, problems and issues in this country in four years or eight.
After all ignorance is within the people of this country.
AMEN!
fatbacks x

West Linn, OR

#34 Nov 19, 2012
Can't wait to see what Dimons cast in stone program for amerika is. Betcha he gives himself a raise!
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Since: Mar 09

The Left Coast

#36 Nov 19, 2012
Kahoki wrote:
<quoted text>
But that is the thing. "We" cannot use it.
1984 Commission. A commission set up by Reagan for the determination of where our tax money goes to.
Their conclusion was:
“With two thirds of everyone’s personal income taxes wasted or not collected, 100 percent of what is collected is absorbed solely by interest on the federal debt and by federal government contributions to transfer payments. In other words, all individual income tax revenues are gone before one nickel is spent on the services [that] taxpayers expect from their government."
That has always beeen the case. The Republicans think the government spends too much. The Democrats think we just need more revenue (taxes). If you noticed the last election for leadership, the Democrats won.
Makes sense

Dearborn, MI

#37 Nov 19, 2012
Supposedly Anonymous corrected the math and SAVED democracy!!! LOL



http://wonkette.com/489966/anonymous-claims-i...
A Nnoyed

Tunbridge Wells, UK

#38 Nov 19, 2012
I know this whole banter, political ideology thing is fun but if fleecing the rich in taxes only raises an extra 70,000 million and you're running over a 1,000,000 million in annual deficits, isn't there a bigger problem to consider?

That's not even enough for a bad tip on a bill that big.

“Obama Shames the USA”

Since: Apr 09

Location hidden

#39 Nov 19, 2012
Bob Lewis wrote:
<quoted text>
American spoke in a clear voice and elected Obama to assure that tomorrow will never be as good as yesterday.
Whether we gave Obama the mandate to destroy all hope for a bright future for our families because we are sadists or masochists is for historians to decide.
It's true. The majotity of Americans are idiots. Obama is proof. Well, Hitler always said "The Masses are the Asses". He was right about that. They elected Hitler by a majority too. It's happening again here. Dumb, Da Dumb Dumb DUMB. America has been dumbed down. It really shows.

Since: Mar 09

The Left Coast

#40 Nov 19, 2012
A Nnoyed wrote:
I know this whole banter, political ideology thing is fun but if fleecing the rich in taxes only raises an extra 70,000 million and you're running over a 1,000,000 million in annual deficits, isn't there a bigger problem to consider?
That's not even enough for a bad tip on a bill that big.
Then we need to tax those that have money even more. That is what the country voted for in the last election. The $250K number is out of date. ANYBODY that makes more than the national average US income of $50K, will need to pay more, much more.
A Nnoyed

Tunbridge Wells, UK

#41 Nov 19, 2012
RustyS wrote:
<quoted text>
Then we need to tax those that have money even more. That is what the country voted for in the last election. The $250K number is out of date. ANYBODY that makes more than the national average US income of $50K, will need to pay more, much more.
The psychos are even more psychotic than I imagined.

People on 50k in major cities are poor. Can't afford basics poor. Can't afford a family poor.
nobama

Los Angeles, CA

#42 Nov 19, 2012
Responsibility wrote:
<quoted text>
Never believed that President Obama could fix all the evils, problems and issues in this country in four years or eight.
After all ignorance is within the people of this country.
Thats why Obama was relected.

Since: Mar 09

The Left Coast

#43 Nov 19, 2012
A Nnoyed wrote:
<quoted text>
The psychos are even more psychotic than I imagined.
People on 50k in major cities are poor. Can't afford basics poor. Can't afford a family poor.
So they need the money - right?

“life under BO”

Since: Sep 12

buena vista

#44 Nov 19, 2012
Ninthman wrote:
Obama made the "fecal" cliff. Everything he touches turns to shit.
This is what will happen if the fiscal cliff is not avoided, I say do it and let the people who voted for Obama deal with paying higher payroll taxes, higher taxes and losing exemptions:

Summary
A number of tax provisions either expired in 2011 or are scheduled to expire at the end of 2012.
These include the following:
• The Bush tax cuts, which reduced income taxes by reducing tax rates, reducing
the marriage penalty, repealing limitations on personal exemptions and itemized
deductions (PEP and Pease, respectively), expanding refundable credits, and
modifying education tax incentives. The Bush tax cuts also reduced estate tax
liabilities by increasing the amount of an estate exempt from taxation and by
lowering the tax rate.

• The alternative minimum tax (AMT) patch, which, by increasing the amount of
income that is exempt from the AMT and allowing certain personal credits
against the AMT, prevents an estimated 26 million additional taxpayers from
owing the AMT.

• The payroll tax cut, which reduced an employee’s share of Social Security taxes
by two percentage points.

• A variety of previously extended temporary tax provisions, commonly referred to
as “tax extenders,” which affect individuals, businesses, charitable giving,
energy, community development, and disaster relief.

Go for it Obama.

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