Immigration bill generating little heat in town halls

Aug 25, 2013 Read more: Times Herald 51

Republican Rep. Frank LoBiondo represents a South Jersey congressional district with a sizable Hispanic population, farmlands that employ migrant workers, an influential labor union presence and a constituency that voted twice for President Obama.

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Brenda besson

United States

#1 Aug 25, 2013
Exactly not important,moving on to obamacare thats important.keep up the good work guys.get rid of obamacare,obama,and illegals,
ronnie

Brigham City, UT

#2 Aug 25, 2013
There are probably dozens of Representatives at town hall meetings where illegal aliens getting right's is not a topic anyone want's to waste time on.... Most Americans don't want it, illegals are sponsored by big business not little Americans like us....

“Peace”

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#3 Aug 25, 2013
Most Americans want immigration reform. I will provide a link that shows what I'm saying is true.

"Fox News poll: Voters want immigration reform"

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/06/13/fo...
Brenda besson

United States

#4 Aug 25, 2013
Well all the people I know black,white,spanish,democrat,r epublican,young ,old people that voted obama dont want it.they dont want obamacare and they dont want obama.everyone wants to move on from all the bs.next,oh and they are acting like we passed amnesty,obama makes the feel that way I gusse lol,get that vote crazy man.he will be dealt with karma.may he be gone sooner than later,worst president ever.oh imean dictator hope he can read this nsa hello to snowden.
Juan

Vero Beach, FL

#5 Aug 25, 2013
Just give us amnesty and lets move on to more important issues.
Brenda besson

United States

#6 Aug 25, 2013
Oh and no he will not pass an executive order,but I wish he would do it now.it would get rid of him and the illegals much faster.
Dan Salazar

AOL

#7 Aug 25, 2013
Town Hall meetings are a good venue for Illegal Aliens screaming and yelling and demanding their RIGHTS and REWARD for breaking American Immigration Law.
It reminds every American that the millions of Illegals wouldn't BE HERE if Americans were not Cowards and Losers and Unworthy of America.
Brenda besson

Boldon, UK

#8 Aug 25, 2013
Boy I have a major crotch odor problem this time every year people.
Reality check

Jacksonville, FL

#9 Aug 25, 2013
_White American_ wrote:
Most Americans want immigration reform. I will provide a link that shows what I'm saying is true.
"Fox News poll: Voters want immigration reform"
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/06/13/fo...
Good information but there are some here who would very conveniently deny the law of gravity exist if the agenda requires that belief.
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Brenda besson

United States

#11 Aug 25, 2013
Brenda besson wrote:
Boy I have a major crotch odor problem this time every year people.
juan you are too stupid to live.
Brenda besson

United States

#12 Aug 25, 2013
Lol you people can think whatever you like,you can say whatever you like,god knows I do.we dont pay attention to fake polls,what will you do when they tell you no amnesty,oh and obama is not passing executive order.if you dont think im right why so upset.why worry about what I say.
Loco

Pasadena, TX

#13 Aug 25, 2013
Ronnie. The little american.
bob lewis

AOL

#14 Aug 26, 2013
Brenda besson wrote:
<quoted text> juan you are too stupid to live.
You are wrong. Juan is ideally suited to represent the new OBAMAcrat Party. America surrendered to them last November. Deal with it.

Since: Jan 12

Granbury, TX

#15 Aug 26, 2013
Juan wrote:
Just give us amnesty and lets move on to more important issues.
nah, lets just start deporting all the Mexicans, then we can move on! Come on Juan, do your part and self deport!
Kasey

Columbia, MO

#16 Aug 26, 2013
Juan wrote:
Just give us amnesty and lets move on to more important issues.
There's that word again "GIVE." American citizenship is one of it's most precious attributes. It must be earned legally by going through our immigration process. Nothing worth having is simply given away but rather it is EARNED. Some of the ways to start the process is to apply for citizenship, learn English, know our laws, be healthy and disease/drug free, and able to take care of yourself among other things. Mexico has immigration laws that they insist must be followed. Australia has immigration laws that make sure that you can take care of yourself, follow the rules, and if you visit there that you must exit on time. As the last remaining Super Power for now, why should America "GIVE" people with a 3rd world mentality something precious that must be earned. Please stop being beggars and start following the laws of this land.
Mayela

Atlanta, GA

#17 Aug 26, 2013
Despite the fact that the number of Mexican undocumented immigrants entering the U.S. is dropping, an anti-immigrant California group incorrectly blames immigrants for increasing carbon emissions in the U.S., leading to “environmental degradation.” Californians for Population Stabilization (CAPS), which is airing TV ads on MSNBC and other channels to promote the false link between immigration and climate change, bases its research on a flawed report by the nativist Center for Immigration Studies (CIS), which is connected to the hate group Federation for American Immigration Reform.

“Concerned about Americans’ huge carbon footprint? Then you should be concerned about immigration,” a man in the ad says in an attempt to scare viewers:

MAN: Immigrants produce four times more carbon emissions in the U.S. than their home countries.[...] Reducing immigration won’t solve global warming, but it is part of the solution.

The problem? The claim that immigrants have a carbon footprint four times larger in the U.S. comes from a CIS report, which has deeply flawed methodology. The report claims that a person’s CO2 emissions is directly related to his or her personal income — so a person making $110,000 per year will emit 10 percent more carbon than a person who earns $100,000 per year under the report’s methodology. Thus, because the report claims that each Mexican immigrant earns 53.2 percent of the average U.S. resident, it claims that these immigrants must also produce 53.2 percent of the carbon emissions.

But this is simply absurd. If such a relationship actually did exist, that would mean that Mitt Romney, who earned $21.6 million in 2010 — or more than 600 times the average annual income according to the CIS report — also must have produced 600 times the CO2 emissions. That’s enough of a carbon footprint to fuel over 2,200 vehicles or power more than 1,400 homes for an entire year. Not even John McCain owns that many houses.

There’s also robust data showing that immigrants produce less carbon emissions than their native-born citizen counterparts. Brookings found in 2008 that the 10 highest carbon-emitting cities have an average immigrant population below 5 percent, while the cities with the lowest carbon footprint have an average immigrant population of 26 percent. And as CAP Senior Fellow Andrew Light told ThinkProgress, even if we could suddenly remove the entire carbon impact created by immigrants, it would only decrease the U.S.’s carbon emissions by 7.32 percent in a good year. Clearly, immigrants are not to blame for the U.S.’s large climate footprint.

Rather than falsely blame immigrants for carbon emissions that have fed global warming, Americans should focus on practical solutions like better land use policies and landscape design to conserve resources. Los Angeles, which has a burgeoning second- and third-generation immigrant population, has seen its water usage decline to a 32-year low despite a population increase of 1 million people. It can be done, but using anti-immigrant sentiment to misplace blame to one section of the population distracts from what the U.S. should be doing to address global warming instead.

But according to the Republicans, humans don't cause global warming, if it even exists.

So now they're saying it does exist, but only because of THEM?
http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2012/04/19/4...

Young Forrest: Momma says stupid is as stupid does.
http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Forrest_Gump

“Peace”

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#18 Aug 26, 2013
Kasey wrote:
<quoted text>
There's that word again "GIVE." American citizenship is one of it's most precious attributes. It must be earned legally by going through our immigration process. Nothing worth having is simply given away but rather it is EARNED. Some of the ways to start the process is to apply for citizenship, learn English, know our laws, be healthy and disease/drug free, and able to take care of yourself among other things. Mexico has immigration laws that they insist must be followed. Australia has immigration laws that make sure that you can take care of yourself, follow the rules, and if you visit there that you must exit on time. As the last remaining Super Power for now, why should America "GIVE" people with a 3rd world mentality something precious that must be earned. Please stop being beggars and start following the laws of this land.
Citizenship isn't being given. What the Senate passed would allow those here to become legally documented. Then if they jump through all the hoops and pay all the renewals and monies for 12/13 years then they would be allowed to start the process to become a citizen.
That's not giving them citizenship as a gift.

“Peace”

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#19 Aug 26, 2013
Reality check wrote:
<quoted text>
Good information but there are some here who would very conveniently deny the law of gravity exist if the agenda requires that belief.
Oh I know that. I believe that those are the people that fear what they don't understand. That fear was created by much misinformation that's been being put out by some TV stations and talk radio as well as the web.

“Peace”

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#20 Aug 26, 2013
Brenda besson wrote:
Well all the people I know black,white,spanish,democrat,r epublican,young ,old people that voted obama dont want it.they dont want obamacare and they dont want obama.everyone wants to move on from all the bs.next,oh and they are acting like we passed amnesty,obama makes the feel that way I gusse lol,get that vote crazy man.he will be dealt with karma.may he be gone sooner than later,worst president ever.oh imean dictator hope he can read this nsa hello to snowden.
Wow all the people you know. Just how many would that be? 10 or 20 or even 100 now how does that compare to the numbers that want this immigration reform?
It's time to put a stop to the continuation of illegal entry. In doing reform that will stop those from coming in to work without documentation. Because they can't work here without proper paperwork. It will slow that number to those that would come here because of drugs, etc. That makes things easier to deal with those people.
None of that will pass unless we also include legalization of those here now. Once they are legalized it would be up to them to stay out of trouble to be allowed to continue to stay.
Much has to be put into place in order to cover all aspects to immigration. Not just border or legalization. But also control/monitoring of visitors coming and leaving.
Immigration is a very complex issue and it will take multi aspects of reform to fix it.

“Peace”

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#21 Aug 26, 2013
Mayela wrote:
Despite the fact that the number of Mexican undocumented immigrants entering the U.S. is dropping, an anti-immigrant California group incorrectly blames immigrants for increasing carbon emissions in the U.S., leading to “environmental degradation.” Californians for Population Stabilization (CAPS), which is airing TV ads on MSNBC and other channels to promote the false link between immigration and climate change, bases its research on a flawed report by the nativist Center for Immigration Studies (CIS), which is connected to the hate group Federation for American Immigration Reform.
“Concerned about Americans’ huge carbon footprint? Then you should be concerned about immigration,” a man in the ad says in an attempt to scare viewers:
MAN: Immigrants produce four times more carbon emissions in the U.S. than their home countries.[...] Reducing immigration won’t solve global warming, but it is part of the solution.
The problem? The claim that immigrants have a carbon footprint four times larger in the U.S. comes from a CIS report, which has deeply flawed methodology. The report claims that a person’s CO2 emissions is directly related to his or her personal income — so a person making $110,000 per year will emit 10 percent more carbon than a person who earns $100,000 per year under the report’s methodology. Thus, because the report claims that each Mexican immigrant earns 53.2 percent of the average U.S. resident, it claims that these immigrants must also produce 53.2 percent of the carbon emissions.
But this is simply absurd. If such a relationship actually did exist, that would mean that Mitt Romney, who earned $21.6 million in 2010 — or more than 600 times the average annual income according to the CIS report — also must have produced 600 times the CO2 emissions. That’s enough of a carbon footprint to fuel over 2,200 vehicles or power more than 1,400 homes for an entire year. Not even John McCain owns that many houses.
There’s also robust data showing that immigrants produce less carbon emissions than their native-born citizen counterparts. Brookings found in 2008 that the 10 highest carbon-emitting cities have an average immigrant population below 5 percent, while the cities with the lowest carbon footprint have an average immigrant population of 26 percent. And as CAP Senior Fellow Andrew Light told ThinkProgress, even if we could suddenly remove the entire carbon impact created by immigrants, it would only decrease the U.S.’s carbon emissions by 7.32 percent in a good year. Clearly, immigrants are not to blame for the U.S.’s large climate footprint.
Rather than falsely blame immigrants for carbon emissions that have fed global warming, Americans should focus on practical solutions like better land use policies and landscape design to conserve resources. Los Angeles, which has a burgeoning second- and third-generation immigrant population, has seen its water usage decline to a 32-year low despite a population increase of 1 million people. It can be done, but using anti-immigrant sentiment to misplace blame to one section of the population distracts from what the U.S. should be doing to address global warming instead.
But according to the Republicans, humans don't cause global warming, if it even exists.
So now they're saying it does exist, but only because of THEM?
http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2012/04/19/4...
Young Forrest: Momma says stupid is as stupid does.
http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Forrest_Gump
CIS has always used flawed research for their attempts to stop immigration.
It was a good article. Thanks for posting it.

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