Two conservative Republicans booted f...

Two conservative Republicans booted from US House budget panel

There are 254 comments on the Reuters story from Dec 4, 2012, titled Two conservative Republicans booted from US House budget panel. In it, Reuters reports that:

Two of the most conservative Republicans in the House of Representatives have been kicked off the House Budget Committee, a rare move that could make it easier for the panel to advance a deal with Democrats to cut fiscal deficits.

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Cat74

United States

#44 Dec 4, 2012
The Republicans would be cutting their own throats by joining Obama in his Jobs killing tax increases. Conservatives should start a 3rd party, run a Conservative in 2016, and run one of the two major parties out of town.
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Chicopee

United States

#46 Dec 4, 2012
ToManyLaws wrote:
<quoted text>
Sounds like the majority of GOP people will work to try and save this nation..Some wont help and want the nation to crumble so they got kicked out.
Taxing the rich isn't going to "save this nation". The total revenue from those taxes won't fund our government for nine days. We have a major spending problem in this country and even if we could figure out how to confiscate all the wealth in this nation, it wouldn't even come close to paying down the debt.
The "rich" in this country pay a higher percentage of federal tax revenue than any other country anywhere. The lower 47% don't pay any federal income taxes...some in the lower 30% bracket actually make a profit and are paid from the Treasury (income taxes minus deductions equals a paycheck from the government).
Most "socialized" countries have more balanced tax brackets and a VAT (Value Added Tax), which is nothing more than a federal sales tax, so all citizens pay into the federal coffers. Canada's, for example, is 8%. European nations range anywhere from 2% to 8%.
"Tax the rich" has made a surprisingly good campaign slogan and has introduced this country to a whole new level of class envy and warfare.
We've seen this type of warfare before...it doesn't lead to anything but trouble. Even more troubling, it doesn't actually accomplish any good. It isn't going to lower the debt, slow spending or borrowing and won't do a damned thing to turn the economy around.
But it appeases the masses.
Based on history, that's a frightening thought.

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#47 Dec 4, 2012
People in this nation need to realize that people to the far, radical right are not more 'conservative'....by the definition of that word, the radical right cannnot be conservative.

call them what they are, extreme whackjobs!

“Make America Great Again”

Since: Jun 07

Bring Obama Back!

#48 Dec 4, 2012
Pure Euphoria!!!!!!!!!!

I haven’t stopped laughing at these right-wing idiots since the election as they continue to completely lose it in such a grandly spectacular fashion, LOL!
The tea-baggers are politically dying a slow and painful death as they stick their heads up to take a look at the aftermath of the election - the GOP establishment leadership is chopping their heads clean off, LOL. This is a direct result of President Obama’s mandate; Boehner is paving the way for Obama to get whatever he wants… HE GOT THE MESSAGE.
Lance Winslow

San Jose, CA

#49 Dec 4, 2012
Packin' off the teabungers is a lot like cleqning the toilet bowl, distasteful, but necessary from time to time to make room for more GOP crap.
Wall Street Government

Sebastian, FL

#50 Dec 5, 2012
Chicopee wrote:
<quoted text>
Taxing the rich isn't going to "save this nation". The total revenue from those taxes won't fund our government for nine days. We have a major spending problem in this country and even if we could figure out how to confiscate all the wealth in this nation, it wouldn't even come close to paying down the debt.
The "rich" in this country pay a higher percentage of federal tax revenue than any other country anywhere. The lower 47% don't pay any federal income taxes...some in the lower 30% bracket actually make a profit and are paid from the Treasury (income taxes minus deductions equals a paycheck from the government).
Most "socialized" countries have more balanced tax brackets and a VAT (Value Added Tax), which is nothing more than a federal sales tax, so all citizens pay into the federal coffers. Canada's, for example, is 8%. European nations range anywhere from 2% to 8%.
"Tax the rich" has made a surprisingly good campaign slogan and has introduced this country to a whole new level of class envy and warfare.
We've seen this type of warfare before...it doesn't lead to anything but trouble. Even more troubling, it doesn't actually accomplish any good. It isn't going to lower the debt, slow spending or borrowing and won't do a damned thing to turn the economy around.
But it appeases the masses.
Based on history, that's a frightening thought.
Taxing more of the working middle class and poor won't "save" this nation either.

Republicans have tried that for over 30 years.

But it appeases the teabagger masses.
Wall Street Government

Sebastian, FL

#51 Dec 5, 2012
We've seen this type of warfare before...

In its report,“The Artful Dodgers,” Public Campaign juxtaposes the limited tax liability of dozen major corporations with the companies’ campaign contributions and lobbying expenditures:

EXXON MOBIL: The oil giant that was the world’s most profitable corporation in 2008 has spent $5.7 million in campaign contributions over the last ten years and $138 million in lobbying expenditures. Its federal corporate income tax liabilities for 2009? Absolutely nothing. Iit also received a tax rebate the same year of $156 million.

CHEVRON: Chevron spent $4.4 million in campaign contributions and $91 million in lobbying expenditures over the last decade. It received a tax refund of $19 million in 2009 while making $10 billion in profits and $324 million in government contracts.

CONOCOPHILLIPS: Spent $2.5 million in campaign contributions and $63 million in lobbying expenditures over the last decade. It received “$451 million through the oil and gas manufacturing deduction,” a special tax break, between 2007 and 2009, despite $16 billion in profits over the same period of time.

VALERO ENERGY: Valero spent $4.1 million in campaign contributions and $4.8 million in lobbying expenditures from 2001 to 2010. It received a $157 million tax rebate in 2009 despite $68 billion in sales during the same year. It received “$134 million through the oil and gas manufacturing deduction” over the last three years.

BANK OF AMERICA:$11 million to federal political campaigns from 2001 to 2010 and spent $24 million lobbying over the same period of time. It made $4.4 billion in profits in 2010 while receiving a tax refund of $1.9 billion.

CITIGROUP:$15 million to federal political campaigns from 2001 to 2010 and spent $62 million lobbying over the same period of time. It made $4 billion in profits in 2010 while paying absolutely nothing in federal corporate income taxes. It also received a $1.9 billion tax refund.
GOLDMAN SACHS: The mega-bank Goldman Sachs, which is often called “Government Sachs” in insider circles because of its clout over Washington, spent $22 million in campaign contributions and $21 million in lobbying over the last decade. It paid an ultra-low tax rate of 1.1 percent in 2008, while also receiving $800 billion in governmentloans to help weather the financial crisis.

BOEING: The aviation and defense contractor giant gave $10 million in contributions and $115 million in lobbying expenditures over the last decade. It paid a grand total of nothing in federal corporate income taxes in 2010 and received a $124 million tax refund.

FEDEX: FedEx spent $8.7 million in campaign contributions and $71 million in lobbying expenditures from 2001 to 2010. It paid a .0005 percent effective tax rate recently, actually spending 42 times as much on lobbying Congress as it did paying taxes. To do this it utilizes 21 tax havens.

CARNIVAL:$1.7 million in campaign contributions and $1.6 million in lobbying over the past ten years. Despite the relatively low amount of money it spent influencing Washington. Over the past five years, its federal corporate income tax rate has been an effective 1.1 percent.

VERIZON: Verizon spent $12 million in campaign contributions and $131 million in lobbying expenditures over the past decade. It paid absolutely nothing in federal corporate income taxes over the past two years and $488 million in government contracts in 2008; in 2010, it made $12 billion in profits.

GENERAL ELECTRIC: General Electric spent $13 million in campaign contributions and $205 million in lobbying expenditures over the last decade while netting a tax refund of $4.1 billion over the past five years. It made $26 billion in profits.

It doesn't lead to anything but trouble. Even more troubling, it doesn't actually accomplish any good. It isn't going to lower the debt, slow spending or borrowing and won't do a damned thing to turn the economy around.

au contraire

“Forever Is Promised To No One”

Since: Nov 12

Location hidden

#52 Dec 5, 2012
Gary wrote:
Booting isn't enough.
How about horse whipping the bastards?
Oh my, don't forget your leathers sweetie.

au contraire

“Forever Is Promised To No One”

Since: Nov 12

Location hidden

#53 Dec 5, 2012
Wall Street Government wrote:
<quoted text>
Taxing more of the working middle class and poor won't "save" this nation either.
Republicans have tried that for over 30 years.
But it appeases the teabagger masses.
You really need to work on your distortions and lies. You are getting as boring as Mykro.

au contraire

“Forever Is Promised To No One”

Since: Nov 12

Location hidden

#54 Dec 5, 2012
Marine Corp Pat wrote:
Pure Euphoria!!!!!!!!!!
I haven’t stopped laughing at these right-wing idiots since the election as they continue to completely lose it in such a grandly spectacular fashion, LOL!
The tea-baggers are politically dying a slow and painful death as they stick their heads up to take a look at the aftermath of the election - the GOP establishment leadership is chopping their heads clean off, LOL. This is a direct result of President Obama’s mandate; Boehner is paving the way for Obama to get whatever he wants… HE GOT THE MESSAGE.
DETROIT: WE VOTED FOR YOU, NOW BAIL US OUT , mo candy, mo candy…..
Anonymous

Ashland, KY

#55 Dec 5, 2012
Lawrence Wolf wrote:
<quoted text>Stealing elections didn't work this time, and it won't work the next.
That's right :):)
Yeah

Honolulu, HI

#56 Dec 5, 2012
au contraire wrote:
<quoted text>Since Obama is dead set to drive off the cliff so he can then blame Republicans for the mess he caused is a simple ploy of the old swithcheroo gambit. Only children and morons will believe what is being pumped up there rectum. All Obama has to do is say it's candy, what some more.
lol! And here the cons were cheering the cliff they created last year.

Now it's Obama's baby because they screwed up?

Talk about a lack of honesty.... a lack of integrity....

wow.
Wall Street Government

Sebastian, FL

#57 Dec 5, 2012
au contraire wrote:
<quoted text>You really need to work on your distortions and lies. You are getting as boring as Mykro.
Yes I do.

When I get around to telling some, I'll contact you to get some expert advice, although Le Dimbulb said he needed the business, so you'll be number 2 on the list.

au contraire

“Forever Is Promised To No One”

Since: Nov 12

Location hidden

#58 Dec 5, 2012
Yeah wrote:
<quoted text>lol! And here the cons were cheering the cliff they created last year.
Now it's Obama's baby because they screwed up?
Talk about a lack of honesty.... a lack of integrity....
wow.
Obama In 2011: We Can Get $1.2 Trillion In Revenue Without Raising Rates

Since: Feb 08

Hypoluxo Fl

#59 Dec 5, 2012
au contraire wrote:
<quoted text>You really need to work on your distortions and lies. You are getting as boring as Mykro.
Bore yourself. Four more years of teabag tears.
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Since: Feb 11

Location hidden

#61 Dec 5, 2012
Cat74 wrote:
Lovely. Now we can expect to be hosed by the Deocrats, and the liberal Republicans
HAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAH!

LyingCnt74 is always lying and always a gas.

Let's make sure we blame the Democrats... for Republican John Boehner's decision to remove other Republicans from these committees.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!

au contraire

“Forever Is Promised To No One”

Since: Nov 12

Location hidden

#62 Dec 5, 2012
Cat74 wrote:
The Republicans would be cutting their own throats by joining Obama in his Jobs killing tax increases. Conservatives should start a 3rd party, run a Conservative in 2016, and run one of the two major parties out of town.
Real Clear Politics Video
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O: NO DEAL WITHOUT HIGHER TAX RATES...

OBAMA: FLASHBACK: We Can Get $1.2 Trillion In Revenue Without Raising Rates...

On July 22, 2011 President Obama offered raising the debt ceiling last summer by closing loopholes and not raising taxes.

OBAMA: What we said was give us $1.2 trillion in additional revenues, which could be accomplished without hiking tax rates. It could simply be accomplished by eliminating loopholes, eliminating some deductions and engaging in a tax reform process that could lower rates generally while broadening the base.
Again the Republicans have given Obama exactly what he ask for a year ago, but today of course it’s not good enough. Obama’s claim that nothing new is offered is a lie.

Since: Feb 11

Location hidden

#63 Dec 5, 2012
au contraire wrote:
<quoted text>Real Clear Politics
Off topic, cross posted spam.

Pick one alias and stick to it, eh?

au contraire

“Forever Is Promised To No One”

Since: Nov 12

Location hidden

#64 Dec 5, 2012
barefoot2626 wrote:
<quoted text>
Off topic, cross posted spam.
Pick one alias and stick to it, eh?
Poor baba lot is having trouble with Obama's lying it appears. Poor doodle squat can't hide the lying mo fo's life of lying and distruction.

Since: Feb 11

Location hidden

#65 Dec 5, 2012
au contraire wrote:
<quoted text>Poor baba lot is having trouble
Heck, who can blame you for trying to move away from the topic of this thread, eh?

Not a good day for tea baggers.

Rove also..."resigning" it seems...

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