Gay marriage

Gay marriage

There are 61362 comments on the Los Angeles Times story from Mar 28, 2013, titled Gay marriage. In it, Los Angeles Times reports that:

The U.S. Supreme Court is considering two controversial cases involving whether same-sex couples have a constitutional right to marry: Proposition 8, California's 2008 ban on gay marriage, and the Defense of Marriage Act, which since 1996 has defined marriage for federal purposes as a union between a man and a woman.

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BROTHER BUBBA

Columbus, OH

#59812 Aug 24, 2014
Without confirmation----the media latched on to this story and exaggerated his findings to say there had been found a positive gay gene.
Hamer’s study was quickly proved misleading---and not even scientific in how it was handled. Within a year it had been proven that no such gene existed. Since that time Dr. Hamer has admitted it was not true---when asked about this he and others in the movement have said,“It doesn’t matter now, people already believe it and it’s made life easier for homosexuals.”
People are not born homosexual---it’s a myth.

Myth #2
Jesus did not speak against homosexuality.
It is true. Jesus never said a word against homosexuality. But he also never said a word against rape, incest, spouse abuse, or child abuse---but our intelligence understands these are wrong. And other places in scripture enforce that understanding.

Myth #3- It’s not about religion---it’s about Freedom.
This is the cry of the homosexual movement now. To separate this from morality and make it a civil rights issue. They desire to be classified as a minority---as a group that has been victimized. The language continues to change. From “Sexual preference” which indicates a choice to alternative lifestyle which gave way to sexual orientation----which has given way now to sexual identity. The goal in this is to complelty remove any responsibility or indication of choice by the person for this lifestyle. The goal is moral legitimization.
Whozits

Los Angeles, CA

#59813 Aug 24, 2014
Oh well. Roll on, Deacon.
BROTHER BUBBA

Columbus, OH

#59814 Aug 24, 2014
We must be aware of the lies-----and stand for the truth.

#1. The Bible speaks clearly about homosexuality.
In the old testament it is called Sodomy. In the New Testament, in 1 Corinthians 6:9-10 it is clear.
“Do you not know the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers, nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom f God.”

IT is clear-----God would not condemn people for something they could not help. Homosexuality----like all the other sins listed-----is a sin.

Truth #2- We are in a war----and losing.
This past week a parent walked down the halls of Cape Coral High School and saw 2 girls passionately kissing. Nothing was being done---in her mind---it seemed for fear of retaliation of accusations of intolrence for this lifestyle.
A few months ago The Episcopal Church was in the news when Gene Robinson, an unapologetic practicing homosexual was made Bishop of New Hampshire.

We have buried our heads in the sand for to long----and the battle has overtaken us and the war is on.
20 years ago Psychiatrists recognized and categorized homosexuality as a form of mental illness. In the last two years, that has changed completely and now they say that homosexuality is normal and those who oppose it are mentally ill and they define homophobia as an “irrational fear and hatred of homosexuals” and in our culture, anyone who verbalizes anything negative about homosexuality is homophobic or mentally ill.

Truth #3-----God LOVES Homosexuals.
Not their homosexuality----but we have to remember that every person caught up in homosexuality is a face, a name, a son, a daughter, a family member, a friend.
Just as we have friends caught up in other sin------just as God wants everyone to repent and be his children. God loves those are in the homosexual lifestyle----and wants to free them from it.
BROTHER BUBBA

Columbus, OH

#59815 Aug 24, 2014
And too often our response as the church has been a refusal to reach out and love these people. We have set this sin in a different category as other sins------and God does not do that.

So---what is our response as God’s People to be?
1. Hold on to the truth.
a. The current homosexual agenda is to force acceptance without repentance. Even though in scripture, this is listed as sin----they would not see repentance as a part of the process. Just down the street we have a church where you can be a remain homosexual and call yourself a Christ Follower. There is no such thing. If we follow that line of reasoning then we would have churches for every sin. Adulterors go here, liars go here, greedy go here----. The reality should be that every church if for homosexuals---and liars, and greedy, and all the sins that all of us wrestle with in our lives. But the sin must be acknowledged and repented of.
b. The church must never waver on the truth. We must not be swayed by our culture of false tolerance to okay behavior that God says is not okay. Isa 5:20 says “woe to those who call evil good and good evil.”
c. The truth is that God loves imperfect people and wants to meet the needs they are trying to fill in this lifestyle. He wants to give them peace, and joy, and love and meaning. But they cannot be Christ followers and continue in that sin.

#2. We must see people through God’s Eyes.
Many of us in this room have had the problem of homosexuality hit our families. The picture changes when we know someone wrestling with this choice. WE begin to soften---or at least we should. Because as much pain as it causes us---it causes God more. He sees each and every person in the homosexual community as one of his children that needs to be brought home. One who is looking for the right answers in the wrong places. Usually one who has been hurt in some great
BROTHER BUBBA

Columbus, OH

#59816 Aug 24, 2014
way. Dr. Joseph Nicolosi in a parents guide to preventing homosexuality, wrote,“In 15 years of speaking with hundreds of homosexual men, I have never met one who said he had a loving, respectful relationship with his father”.
I have talked to homosexuals who had a desire to walk away from this sin, only to find themselves outcast and bashed by the church. With no place to go they would invariably find themselves back in the gay community who would at least show them some compassion.

Which leads us to Response #3
We have to provide a place for people to experience God’s love.
God never ask us to change, and then come to him. He doesn’t say that those who run a perfect race get the prize.
He says if we will follow Him-----he will transform us. His spirit in us will make the difference. If we will run the race and finish---we get the prize.
But the church has not done a good job wrapping our arms around those who are coming, seeking relief from this empty lifestyle that has promise so much and delivered so little.
It means looking at our attitudes-----adjusting our language. Seeing their sin as God sees us.
Extending grace as God has extended it to us.
For too long we have thrown stones----instead of invited people to join us on the journey of walking with Jesus.
We have said “change your ways—and we will accept you. While Jesus says, follow me, and you cannot help but change. Transformation is an unavoidable by product of walking with Jesus.
BROTHER BUBBA

Columbus, OH

#59817 Aug 24, 2014
One of the great culture cancers---of every society that has risen and fallen has been homosexuality. This lifestyle has been a strong determining factor in every culture that has disappeared in time----and the only answer---is God. The church. God’s people showing a love that is not found any where else. God’s love.

C.S.Lewis said,“We’re all either helping people toward God or away from him”

In the queer eye for the straight Guy show-----homosexuals take a poor lost straight guy and save him from his ways.

God has an eye for the homosexual----and he wants to take poor, lost, searching, people and save them. And it might be homosexuality, or hatred, or gossip, or greed, or pride, or lying, or stealing---name your struggle. It’s all sin-----and God has an eye for us all.


AMEN~
Sergeant at Arms

Columbus, OH

#59818 Aug 24, 2014
ANOTHER ROUND FOR THE HOUSE
700 Club

Columbus, OH

#59819 Aug 24, 2014
The 700 Club with Pat Robertson Show will be aired at 5:00 PM ect
TimTim

Toledo, OH

#59820 Aug 24, 2014
Oh hey. Me again. Yup. I thought I would add a few things to my little list from before. Also, I just noticed that 18 or so states are supporting Gay Marriage, which is awesome. Give it a few years and it will be aloud over all of the U.S. Just got to be patient. Thanks court systems!

Remember when I said Divorce was a large problem in the US as well as a sin? I forgot to mention that obesity, which would count under one of the Seven Deadly Sins known as Gluttony, is one of the leading problems of not only the US, but many other country's as well. This means that everywhere you walk, you have someone that has wrongfully sinned walking by you nearly 80% or so of the time. Do I hear lots of endless hate towards the people with obesity problems? Nope.

I recently watched a video that actually displayed overly-religious police men threatening to start firing at a peaceful protest for gay marriage rights. All they were doing is sitting on a street side chanting some stuff like any protest, and suddenly a girl gets grabbed for hardly any appropriate reason and is beaten at the side. What image do you think that places not only for the heavily religious side of this battle, as well as the police as well? Makes you look like a violate monster.

Love - TimTim~

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#59821 Aug 24, 2014
Man, that's a lot of useless spam to scroll through.

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WOW it WORKS

Los Angeles, CA

#59822 Aug 24, 2014
Just Think wrote:
Man, that's a lot of useless spam to scroll through.
Thank goodness for the magic scroll wheel...
Gotta goof Off a little to see what will happen.

Cali Girl 2014

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#59823 Aug 24, 2014
Just Think wrote:
Man, that's a lot of useless spam to scroll through.

Thank goodness for the magic scroll wheel...
It's like a Fundamentalist vomited!

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#59824 Aug 24, 2014
anonymous wrote:
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Methinks,[alleged "thinking" snipped]
No intelligent person believes you think. That is the biggest lie you tell in Topix.
The Daylight

Los Angeles, CA

#59825 Aug 24, 2014
Reverend Alan wrote:
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No intelligent person believes you think. That is the biggest lie you tell in Topix.
His post has been buried in the sands of spam.
Those spam storms sometimes go on for three pages or more.
anonymous

Saint Louis, MO

#59826 Aug 24, 2014
BROTHER BUBBA wrote:
That agenda---over a 15 year period has put the homosexual community in the drivers seat. Which is concern #2---
The progressive POWER of the homosexual movement.
Who would have thought that political and corporate America would cater and bow to be in the good graces of this segment of our society. And this election the gay community will play a major role in our political process.
I don’t mix politics and sermons. I don’t tell you how to vote---and I vote people, and character---not parties. But I have to tell you it concerns me when last week on April 8, the NSD which is the political arm of the homosexual movement came out and announced their endorsement of a presidential candidate. And it concerns me when Dave Noble, the executive director of NSD says,“Even before his first year in the Senate almost 20 years ago, Senator Kerry has been a friend to gay and lesbian families”.
It concerns me when I can go to a political party web store and buy shirts and coffee mugs that say I support the gay agenda.
It concerns me that in Broward County, the school board has voted to permit a homosexual tolerance group to train teachers in what it calls “fighting harassment”. The board is endorsing an agreement with the Gay Lesbian Straight Education Network to provide the training. The executive director, Kevin Jennings, of that organization says his mission is promoting homosexuality. He said,“We can make it happen”. When ask about his attitude toward Christianity, Jennings said,“I don’t care what they think. Drop dead”
It concerns me that this past Thursday six same sex couples asked our state court in Key West to overturn Florida’s Defense of Marriage Act which bans gay marriage.
The homosexual agenda is gaining power and is a force to be reckoned with.
Bubba, you have one clear failing in your logic. Why do you assume that the gay movement is in the driver's seat?

Follow the money. Gays don't have money. Their leaders are the sons and daughters of the rich, but not the first born, destined to control the dynasty. What you should be contemplating is factions who stay out of the public eye, used to manipulating the public, and who manifest an extreme moral disconnect in regard to the larger community.

That could include many groups. The Mafia? The Jewish aristocracy? Female inheritors of great wealth? Who else might be on that list? Generally, what I see is all those things but allied together through the Democratic Party. That's important. I don't think the Democrats were rogue until recently. The FDR generation didn't treat the public as beasts of burden. There had to be a very large environmental reason or a very subtle change in the rules that was a game changer.

Perhaps there was a new technology that the government invented and kept to themselves and the secret society with that tech went wildly out of control. Perhaps this is nothing more than the realization of the American uncontested hyper-power that the rest of the world is not yet ready to confront. Maybe we are dealing with the multi-national corporations who are outside the control of any government. All I know is that the gay rights movement is not the product of normal cultural progress. Someone is pulling the strings.

With that in mind, I don't like anyone acting as if the gay community were in charge. That muddies the water. It would be better to stick to politics as usual. Pretend that your identity is public knowledge and you won't find your position compromised any more than it would be anyway. Stick to the facts and if there is no conspiracy things can return to normal far quicker once this lunacy is found to be what it is.

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#59827 Aug 24, 2014
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The filth of homosexuals affects our civilization very negatively in hundreds of ways. So called gay marriage is the final straw in the cultural war. We have given gayness a pass but like any group of takers they want more and more free stuff.
Unfortunately many otherwise intelligent people drink the Gay Koolaid.
Thank you for pointing it out.
You KKKristians said the same kind of things about blacks 100 years ago.

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#59828 Aug 24, 2014
DANDY DEACON wrote:
Now God is love,
Ex. 15:3 ("The Lord is a man of war....") and
Psalm 144:1 ("Blessed by the Lord my strength, which teacheth my hands to war....")

Can you feel the love?

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#59829 Aug 24, 2014
Just Think wrote:
Man, that's a lot of useless spam to scroll through.
Thank goodness for the magic scroll wheel...
Something sure has upset the KKKristians. I wonder who rattled their cage? Could it have anything to do with the Bible quotes I posted? I sure hope so.

1 Cor. 7:23 ("...do not become slaves of men")

versus

Eph. 6:5 ("Servants, be obedient to them that are your masters....") and
1 Peter 2:18-21, " 18 Slaves, in reverent fear of God submit yourselves to your masters, not only to those who are good and considerate, but also to those who are harsh. 19 For it is commendable if someone bears up under the pain of unjust suffering because they are conscious of God. 20 But how is it to your credit if you receive a beating for doing wrong and endure it? But if you suffer for doing good and you endure it, this is commendable before God. 21 To this you were called, because Christ suffered for you, leaving you an example, that you should follow in his steps.
anonymous

Saint Louis, MO

#59830 Aug 24, 2014
Reverend Alan wrote:
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No intelligent person believes you think. That is the biggest lie you tell in Topix.
No intelligent person allows you to pretend to be their mouthpiece. That's why you always find yourself with enemies on both sides. That's a whole different animal than my game.

No. You're not invited into my game. I can tell you a lie or the complete truth and you cannot respond to or learn from that experience. Do you think I even slightly care how you judge the truthfulness of my posts? You can't debate with facts anymore. You can't debate with morals. You can only try to raise the rabble. They don't like being played and you don't give them anything that they want. Your helplessness is the inevitable conclusion of keeping a secret agenda.

Were you born gay yet? I just crack me up with these temporal paradoxes, you know! It's my preferred form of narcissism! Sort of like "Ah, good times", quoting books one doesn't believe in and all that jazz. It keeps that metaphorical knife you want to wield pointed at yourself and cutting into your own hand.

I think that hidden agenda is a criminal history that your daddy's money can't solve. It's a lot less important to me than it is to you, but you can't heal until you stop hurting yourself.

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#59831 Aug 24, 2014
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It's like a Fundamentalist vomited!
Exactly, that is what KKKristians do. Should anyone post objective proof that their KKKristianity is the greatest hoax ever sold they go bonkers and don't know what to do. I am pleased to be someone who puts nails into the coffin of KKKrist-insanity. Their insane response is to the Bible quotes I post is my proof that they hate being exposed as the con-artists that they are.

Ecclesiastes 3:2-3 ("a time to be born , and a time to die...a time to kill, and a time to heal...")
versus
Ex. 20:13 ("Thou shalt not kill")

We are not supposed to kill, but there is a time to kill, KKKristians and their Bible is stupid, stupid, stupid.

I remember the day when KKKristians were running things and if I posted things like I just posted they would all be removed because KKkristians were so viscious, malicious, mean, nasty and filled with revenge. They still are, but they are no longer in power to do anything about it. Ha ha, Laughing at the pew warmers.

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