Gay marriage

Gay marriage

There are 60849 comments on the Los Angeles Times story from Mar 28, 2013, titled Gay marriage. In it, Los Angeles Times reports that:

The U.S. Supreme Court is considering two controversial cases involving whether same-sex couples have a constitutional right to marry: Proposition 8, California's 2008 ban on gay marriage, and the Defense of Marriage Act, which since 1996 has defined marriage for federal purposes as a union between a man and a woman.

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Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#40285 Apr 2, 2014
NorCal Native wrote:
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Again jackazz.......
Oh alright, once more but are you sure you're a lesbian? You're looking like a damn rabbit.
Legs pinned back behind your ears looking like Bugs Bunny!

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Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#40286 Apr 2, 2014
YUK!YUK!YUK! Ah good times. All kidding aside, consenting adult polygamy should be allowed. Don't like it? Don't do it.

Marriage. There is no one right way. That's my message don't hate me for it. Aw hell go ahead. Hate me. It just proves my point. You ain't better then them.

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Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#40287 Apr 2, 2014
Reverend Alan wrote:
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What about the harm and chaos caused to the baker? That doesn't matter because he believes in some of his religion?
Doesn't matter because he's straight and the couple is gay. Let's cut through the bullsh!t. Stop walking on eggs. Smash! Now it's a smashed egg.

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“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#40288 Apr 2, 2014
Reverend Alan wrote:
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Why do you have such contempt for those of us who love freedom Sheepie?
"A man's admiration for absolute government is proportionate to the contempt he feels for those around him." Alexis de Tocqueville
I don't. I have contempt for those of you who love anarchy & discriminating against your fellow citizens.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#40289 Apr 2, 2014
Reverend Alan wrote:
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What about the harm and chaos caused to the baker? That doesn't matter because he believes in some of his religion?
Was the baker harmed when told he has to bake a cake or go to jail and pay a $10,000 fine? Yes or no. Don't change the subject and say he had a choice. Slaves had the choice to stop being slaves by killing themselves. That does not answer the question it side-steps it.
I am saying that more harm is caused by a baker being forced to bake a cake then the gay couple doing what you and I both would have done, and most normal people would do which is: walk down the street to the gay bakery.
Do you admit you discriminate against men when it comes to getting married?
The only harm to the baker was self-inflicted when he chose to break the law.

Just as the harm to a robber was self-inflicted when he chose to break the law.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#40290 Apr 2, 2014
Richie T wrote:
<quoted text>When you meet Him, you will be shocked and dismayed. You will be overcome with regret that you will never be able to take back.
Ditto when you meet Frosty & the Grinch....

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#40291 Apr 2, 2014
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
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Because they think polygamy is just a trick against same sex marriage. Very self centered and paranoid, eh? Imagine if polygamists were against gay marriage because they felt it a threat to polygamy? All hell would break loose. Law suits. Hate speak. Insults, threats.
Pssst, since the overwhelming majority of polygamists are fundamentalist religious nutjobs, it's a pretty safe bet that they oppose "gay marriage".

“equality for ALL means ALL”

Since: Jan 07

Fort Lauderdale FL

#40292 Apr 2, 2014
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
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I love LGBT weddings. Even the old guard lets down their guard when they see two happy people. It's contagious. Weddings are joyous occasions no matter if the are homosexual or heterosexual, monogamous or polygamous.(Therein lies the rub. It makes me a "homophobe" to support polygamy it seems).
You and the Rev always have to throw polygamy in there when I am in no way talking about it or even arguing with you over it. lol.

Since: Apr 07

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#40293 Apr 2, 2014
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WeTheSheeple wrote:
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I don't know what kind of porn you've been watching, but I can assure you I've NEVER assumed the sexual role of a woman; neither has my husband.
Since we're both men, the only role we can assume- sexually or otherwise- is that of a man.
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So, one can conclude that you and your partner have never engaged in sodomy.

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WeTheSheeple wrote:
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So you assume a 80 y/o couple is going to procreate then they get married?
I think you're going to be disappointed.
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You are making an apples-to-oranges comparison, comparing a particular case to the general case, a sub-category to the general category. This is bad logic. The assumptions of marriage concern adults of child-bearing years. That is why there is the age requirement. The lines of classification are slightly over-inclusive, but this does not affect the purposes for which marriage had been conceived, which is to manage the consequences of the male/female sexual relationship.

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WeTheSheeple wrote:
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Nothing you posted required a rebuttal.
Which is why you anti-gays keep losing in court after court and state after state.
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What you mean is that there was no rebuttal that you could think of. And there you go again with that circular logic.

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WeTheSheeple wrote:
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Hmmmm, your racist friend said exactly the same thing about inter-racial marriages.
Still waiting for the "massive backlash".....
I guess they're too busy drinking beer and having sex with their sister.
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Your comparison of homosexuality with race is fallacious, because the former concerns behavior, which implies morality, while the latter concerns a state of being, which does not. Remember to not compare apples to oranges.

I donít recall any friend saying anything about inter-racial marriage. Can you document this?

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WeTheSheeple wrote:
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Actually we are quite normal, we have kids & grandkids, & big happy families.
If you anti-gays would simply stop trying to discriminate against us, we wouldn't have anything to worry about anymore than any other family.
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This is just more of the twisted logic that perversion is normal for perverts. I guess so. But, should government and society condone perversion?

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“equality for ALL means ALL”

Since: Jan 07

Fort Lauderdale FL

#40294 Apr 2, 2014
Charlie Feather wrote:
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QUOTE Sheeple:

I don't know what kind of porn you've been watching, but I can assure you I've NEVER assumed the sexual role of a woman; neither has my husband.
Since we're both men, the only role we can assume- sexually or otherwise- is that of a man.

Charlie:

So, one can conclude that you and your partner have never engaged in sodomy.
Only if one is extremely stupid or severely dain bramaged.
Xavier Breath

Brooklyn, NY

#40295 Apr 2, 2014
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
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Gay poly MARRIAGE I suppose is allowed on this GAY MARRIAGE thread? Why are you against it?
Censorship sucks. You suck.
Hmmmm what's the first sentence, again?
The U.S. Supreme Court is considering two controversial cases involving whether same-sex couples have a constitutional right to marry:

Same sex couples.......... NOT polygamy. But then you wouldn't have anything to write about, would you?
Xavier Breath

Brooklyn, NY

#40296 Apr 2, 2014
Charlie Feather wrote:
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So, one can conclude that you and your partner have never engaged in sodomy.
#39804
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You are making an apples-to-oranges comparison, comparing a particular case to the general case, a sub-category to the general category. This is bad logic. The assumptions of marriage concern adults of child-bearing years. That is why there is the age requirement. The lines of classification are slightly over-inclusive, but this does not affect the purposes for which marriage had been conceived, which is to manage the consequences of the male/female sexual relationship.
#39805
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What you mean is that there was no rebuttal that you could think of. And there you go again with that circular logic.
#39808
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Your comparison of homosexuality with race is fallacious, because the former concerns behavior, which implies morality, while the latter concerns a state of being, which does not. Remember to not compare apples to oranges.
I donít recall any friend saying anything about inter-racial marriage. Can you document this?
#39809
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This is just more of the twisted logic that perversion is normal for perverts. I guess so. But, should government and society condone perversion?
Charlie....... marriage was "conceived" to facilitate the transfer of property and wealth. Women were considered property.

“equality for ALL means ALL”

Since: Jan 07

Fort Lauderdale FL

#40297 Apr 2, 2014
Charlie Feather wrote:
Your comparison of homosexuality with race is fallacious, because the former concerns behavior, which implies morality, while the latter concerns a state of being, which does not. Remember to not compare apples to oranges.
That's completely incorrect.

No behavior need take place to classify a person as heterosexual or homosexual.

If a teenage virgin dies in a car crash, do you call her asexual because she never had sex?

Stupid.

When you realize in your head what you are, then that's what you are, whether or not you ever act on it.

If a teenage virgin boy gets paralyzed from the waist down playing football, and has no use of his sexual organs...does that make him not heterosexual?

Stupid.

I am a gay man. I was a gay man when I was an 18 year old virgin. I was a gay man when I was a 19 year old who had sex with a girl. But if I died in a car accident at age 20, you would have classified me as "heterosexual" because I had only had sex with a girl up to that point.

Stupid.

You're wrong. There is no arguing that fact. It is not behavior, and therefore by your own "logic," no morality is involved.

If you never had sex as long as you lived, you'd still be (presumably) heterosexual.

You had no choice in that. It is no reflection of your morals - just dumb luck that you never had to face what we faced as kids. You had the easy way.

I believe God only gives us what He knows we can handle.

Get your act together.
Greg

Mount Eliza, Australia

#40298 Apr 2, 2014
I think that gays should be hung and rest in peace cause their sick lads. don't deserve a spot on dis earth ay. let em rest

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“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#40299 Apr 2, 2014
Charlie Feather wrote:
#39799
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So, one can conclude that you and your partner have never engaged in sodomy.
#39804
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You are making an apples-to-oranges comparison, comparing a particular case to the general case, a sub-category to the general category. This is bad logic. The assumptions of marriage concern adults of child-bearing years. That is why there is the age requirement. The lines of classification are slightly over-inclusive, but this does not affect the purposes for which marriage had been conceived, which is to manage the consequences of the male/female sexual relationship.
#39805
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What you mean is that there was no rebuttal that you could think of. And there you go again with that circular logic.
#39808
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Your comparison of homosexuality with race is fallacious, because the former concerns behavior, which implies morality, while the latter concerns a state of being, which does not. Remember to not compare apples to oranges.
I donít recall any friend saying anything about inter-racial marriage. Can you document this?
#39809
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This is just more of the twisted logic that perversion is normal for perverts. I guess so. But, should government and society condone perversion?
You can assume whatever you want.

Many thought blacks were immoral just by being black.

Perversion is in the eye of the pervert.
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#40300 Apr 2, 2014
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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The only harm to the baker was self-inflicted when he chose to break the law.
Just as the harm to a robber was self-inflicted when he chose to break the law.
That's what the NVA goons said to our prisoners when they captured them and tortured them. You asked for it! You wanted this! Here it is.

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“equality for ALL means ALL”

Since: Jan 07

Fort Lauderdale FL

#40301 Apr 2, 2014
Greg wrote:
I think that gays should be hung and rest in peace cause their sick lads. don't deserve a spot on dis earth ay. let em rest
Well that won't happen, and you don't matter.

Next.

“I Luv Carbon Dioxide”

Since: Dec 08

Home, sweet home.

#40302 Apr 2, 2014
Preserve the affirmative action, diversity and integration of one man and one woman marriage. Same sex marriage is for sex segregationists and has no part in main stream American culture.

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Pill Jones

Mount Eliza, Australia

#40303 Apr 2, 2014
Gays should be tortured and sent to guantanamo bay to be slaughtered

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Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#40304 Apr 2, 2014
Xavier Breath wrote:
<quoted text> Hmmmm what's the first sentence, again?
The U.S. Supreme Court is considering two controversial cases involving whether same-sex couples have a constitutional right to marry:
Same sex couples.......... NOT polygamy. But then you wouldn't have anything to write about, would you?
And you wouldn't have the red herring of complaining about it would you? You want me to argue a straw man argument about it being off topic, simply because you cannot counter my argument about why it should be allowed. I won't bite. Gay marriage is not off topic in a forum called gay marriage and you don't have the power to censor it away.Either get an argument or stop making a fool of yourself.

You are trying to tell us gay poly marriage is not allowed to be discussed in a gay marriage forum. Why?

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