Gay marriage

Gay marriage

There are 61395 comments on the Los Angeles Times story from Mar 28, 2013, titled Gay marriage. In it, Los Angeles Times reports that:

The U.S. Supreme Court is considering two controversial cases involving whether same-sex couples have a constitutional right to marry: Proposition 8, California's 2008 ban on gay marriage, and the Defense of Marriage Act, which since 1996 has defined marriage for federal purposes as a union between a man and a woman.

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The Troll Stopper

Blacksburg, VA

#28872 Feb 18, 2014
garylloyd wrote:
Incidentally -- ten years after same-sex marriage in Massachusetts and the HIV rate has gone up -- dramatically!-- among gay males in the state.
Let's see your spin on that factoid.
Provide a link that proves your claim, boy, or admit you just made that up.
Frankie Rizzo

Hayward, CA

#28873 Feb 18, 2014
Poof wrote:
<quoted text>Putz FUVM!
Troll.

garylloyd

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#28874 Feb 18, 2014
Just Think wrote:
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You've read every single book on the subject of gay men and anal sex?
LOL
Oh gary...you just don't see how tragic you are...
If I'm "tragic" what do your 400,000 pals dead of AIDS?

garylloyd

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#28875 Feb 18, 2014
The Troll Stopper wrote:
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Provide a link that proves your claim, boy, or admit you just made that up.
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http://www.massresistance.org/docs/marriage/e...

"Since homosexual marriage became “legal” the rates of HIV / AIDS have gone up considerably in Massachusetts. This year public funding to deal with HIV/AIDS has risen by $500,000. As the homosexual lobby group MassEquality wrote to their supporters after successfully persuading the Legislature to spend that money: "With the rate of HIV infections rising dramatically in Massachusetts, it's clear the fight against AIDS is far from over."
The Troll Stopper

Blacksburg, VA

#28876 Feb 18, 2014
garylloyd wrote:
Mass Resistance? FAIL. Sorry, but anti-gay hate groups have no credibility. Read 'em and weep:

http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/intelli...

Anti-Gay Groups and Their Propaganda

snip: "MassResistance,“the leading pro-family grassroots activist group in Massachusetts,” began life in 1995 as the Parents’ Rights Coalition, became the Article 8 Alliance in 2003, and took on its current name in 2006. Its leader, Brian Camenker, is a programmer who was an official of the Article 8 Alliance and also headed the Newton, Mass., chapter of the National Taxpayers’ Association.

As president of yet another group, the Interfaith Coalition of Massachusetts, Camenker spearheaded the drafting of a bill that passed in 1996 and required that parents be notified of any sex education in their children’s schools. That same year, Camenker claimed that suicide prevention programs aimed at gay youth actually were “put together by homosexual activists to normalize homosexuality.” Later, MassResistance charged that groups like the Gay, Lesbian and Straight Education Network (GLSEN), which support school anti-bullying programs, actually want to lure children into homosexuality and, very possibly, sadomasochism.

At a 2006 religious right gathering in Washington, D.C., Camenker insisted that gays were trying to get legislation passed to allow sex with animals. "One bill in Massachusetts takes away all the penalties for bestiality," he claimed. "This is where this [homosexual] agenda is going." A little later, he added, "They [gays and lesbians] are pushing perversion on our kids."

In 2006-2007, Mass-Resistance pushed for an amendment of the 1996 statute that would have required that parents be notified of any discussion of gay or lesbian issues in the schools. The group proposed language that lumped sexual orientation (which includes heterosexuality, homosexuality and bisexuality) in with criminal behaviors like bestiality and polygamy. During legislative testimony supporting the amendment, Camenker falsely claimed that no homosexuals died in the Holocaust and that the pink triangle the Nazis forced imprisoned gays to wear actually signified Catholic priests. The amendment did not pass.

Camenker, who has long focused on the purported “homosexual agenda” in the schools and frequently claimed gays are dangerous to kids, has repeatedly cited discredited claims from organizations like the National Association for Research and Therapy of Homosexuality that link homosexuality and pedophilia.

In 2008, Camenker made another accusation for which there was no supporting evidence at all — the claim that the state of Massachusetts had had to spend more money every year since same-sex marriage became legal in that state. That, he said, was because of “skyrocketing homosexual domestic violence” and because of the “extreme dysfunctional nature of homosexual relationships.”

This year, MassResistance called Boston Gay Pride events a “depraved” display that featured “a great deal of obviously disturbed, dysfunctional, and extremely self-centered people whose aim was to push their agenda.”

Try a more reliable source next time.
The Troll Stopper

Blacksburg, VA

#28877 Feb 18, 2014
garylloyd wrote:
Mass Resistance? FAIL. Sorry, bigot boy, but anti-gay hate groups have NO credibility. Read 'em and weep:

http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/intelli...

18 Anti-Gay Groups and Their Propaganda

snip: "MassResistance,“the leading pro-family grassroots activist group in Massachusetts,” began life in 1995 as the Parents’ Rights Coalition, became the Article 8 Alliance in 2003, and took on its current name in 2006. Its leader, Brian Camenker, is a programmer who was an official of the Article 8 Alliance and also headed the Newton, Mass., chapter of the National Taxpayers’ Association.

As president of yet another group, the Interfaith Coalition of Massachusetts, Camenker spearheaded the drafting of a bill that passed in 1996 and required that parents be notified of any sex education in their children’s schools. That same year, Camenker claimed that suicide prevention programs aimed at gay youth actually were “put together by homosexual activists to normalize homosexuality.” Later, MassResistance charged that groups like the Gay, Lesbian and Straight Education Network (GLSEN), which support school anti-bullying programs, actually want to lure children into homosexuality and, very possibly, sadomasochism.

At a 2006 religious right gathering in Washington, D.C., Camenker insisted that gays were trying to get legislation passed to allow sex with animals. "One bill in Massachusetts takes away all the penalties for bestiality," he claimed. "This is where this [homosexual] agenda is going." A little later, he added, "They [gays and lesbians] are pushing perversion on our kids."

In 2006-2007, Mass-Resistance pushed for an amendment of the 1996 statute that would have required that parents be notified of any discussion of gay or lesbian issues in the schools. The group proposed language that lumped sexual orientation (which includes heterosexuality, homosexuality and bisexuality) in with criminal behaviors like bestiality and polygamy. During legislative testimony supporting the amendment, Camenker falsely claimed that no homosexuals died in the Holocaust and that the pink triangle the Nazis forced imprisoned gays to wear actually signified Catholic priests. The amendment did not pass."

Try again with a more reliable source, dude.
Poof

Madison, WI

#28878 Feb 18, 2014
garylloyd wrote:
Incidentally -- ten years after same-sex marriage in Massachusetts and the HIV rate has gone up -- dramatically!-- among gay males in the state.
Let's see your spin on that factoid.
Use a condom. Bet your mother wished your father would have.

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#28879 Feb 18, 2014
garylloyd wrote:
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If I'm "tragic" what do your 400,000 pals dead of AIDS?
They are a small portion of the monumentally horrifying total of over 36 million who have died of AIDS.

If you weren't such a tragic human being you'd actually feel something about all of their deaths...
Frankie Rizzo

Hayward, CA

#28880 Feb 18, 2014
Poof wrote:
<quoted text>Use a condom. Bet your mother wished your father would have.
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garylloyd

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#28881 Feb 18, 2014
The Troll Stopper wrote:
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Mass Resistance? FAIL. Sorry, but anti-gay hate groups have no credibility. Read 'em and weep:
http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/intelli...
Anti-Gay Groups and Their Propaganda
snip: "MassResistance,“the leading pro-family grassroots activist group in Massachusetts,” began life in 1995 as the Parents’ Rights Coalition, became the Article 8 Alliance in 2003, and took on its current name in 2006. Its leader, Brian Camenker, is a programmer who was an official of the Article 8 Alliance and also headed the Newton, Mass., chapter of the National Taxpayers’ Association.
Of course the problem with The Southern Poverty Law Center is that it lists every organization that's against same-sex marriage as a "Hate Group." Part of the reason for doing this is clearly to take advantage of the popularity of homosexuality. Civil Rights money has dried up. LGBT money is being handed out by the bucket full. And please note: SPLC has been around for more than 30 years but only recently adopted its LGBT agenda. Like the man said, "Go where the money is."

Add to this, SPLC has had more than a few scandals about its fundraising. It's founder is a crook.

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#28882 Feb 18, 2014
Just Think wrote:
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They are a small portion of the monumentally horrifying total of over 36 million who have died of AIDS.
If you weren't such a tragic human being you'd actually feel something about all of their deaths...
I do feel something for these people -- that's why I'm spreading the word that homosexual sex is morbidly unhealthy.

You, on the other hand, are telling people its safe.

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Poof

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#28883 Feb 18, 2014
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
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I am so very happy that you have finally admitted it. Good for YOU.

garylloyd

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#28884 Feb 18, 2014
Poof wrote:
<quoted text>Use a condom. Bet your mother wished your father would have.
Ok, then riddle me this: you fellows have been using condoms for the past 30 years, yet your HIV rate continues to rise.

Why's that?

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“equality for ALL means ALL”

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#28885 Feb 18, 2014
garylloyd wrote:
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I do feel something for these people -- that's why I'm spreading the word that homosexual sex is morbidly unhealthy.
You, on the other hand, are telling people its safe.
You are so full of crap. If you "feel something for these people" then you support gay marriage, which naturally promotes fidelity and reduces all STD's.

Hypocrite.

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#28886 Feb 18, 2014
Funny thread.

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Poof

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#28887 Feb 18, 2014
garylloyd wrote:
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Ok, then riddle me this: you fellows have been using condoms for the past 30 years, yet your HIV rate continues to rise.
Why's that?
Its true the use among gay men has risen in the US. Yet in Africa protected sex is a rare occurrence. I can only surmise lack of education on the part of governments. That can be the only reason for Africa in general for the hot bed for HIV/AIDS. Those heterosexuals just cannot have a monogamous relationship. Why is that Gary, are you black people incapable of keeping your penis in your pants? Cant you stay true to one woman? Must you breed any female who bends over in front of you? Is that it Gary, Black people lack the ability to restrain themselves?
Poof

Madison, WI

#28888 Feb 18, 2014
garylloyd wrote:
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I do feel something for these people -- that's why I'm spreading the word that homosexual sex is morbidly unhealthy.
You, on the other hand, are telling people its safe.
Are you speaking from experience? Let me guess your lover insisted on being the top and he never gave you the common courtesy of a reach around. Gary not all Gay men are like that, don't be so gosh darn judgmental based on one or two bad lovers.

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#28889 Feb 18, 2014
Reverend Alan wrote:
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Oh yes, and just like once there was slavery and now there isn't, and once like women could not vote, and now they can, and just like alcohol was legal, then it wasn't and now it is again, gay rights are cast in concrete and gay people will never have to worry about another Hitler springing up and changing everything back. It could never happen.
Hey did you see The Handmaids Tale?
The Handmaid's Tale is a dystopian novel, a work of science fiction or speculative fiction, written by Canadian author Margaret Atwood and first published by McClelland and Stewart in 1985. Set in the near future, in a totalitarian Christian theocracy which has overthrown the United States government, The Handmaid's Tale explores themes of women in subjugation and the various means by which they gain agency.
Have you watched this? Tell me it can't happen here.
Here's a very entertaining discussion of how America really did a number on itself:

http://www.npr.org/2011/06/10/137077599/prohi...

and just how FEW it takes to move the herd to do so.

garylloyd

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#28890 Feb 18, 2014
Tony C wrote:
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You are so full of crap. If you "feel something for these people" then you support gay marriage, which naturally promotes fidelity and reduces all STD's.
Hypocrite.
We're not seeing "fidelity and the reduction of STDs in Massachusett where you've had SSM for 10 years.

Why's that?

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garylloyd

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#28891 Feb 18, 2014
Poof wrote:
<quoted text>Its true the use among gay men has risen in the US. Yet in Africa protected sex is a rare occurrence. I can only surmise lack of education on the part of governments. That can be the only reason for Africa in general for the hot bed for HIV/AIDS. Those heterosexuals just cannot have a monogamous relationship. Why is that Gary, are you black people incapable of keeping your penis in your pants? Cant you stay true to one woman? Must you breed any female who bends over in front of you? Is that it Gary, Black people lack the ability to restrain themselves?
My comments are restricted to what I know about -- homosexuals here in the USA.

Sorry.

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