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Obama taking "fiscal cliff" fight to the public

There are 2428 comments on the CBS News story from Nov 30, 2012, titled Obama taking "fiscal cliff" fight to the public. In it, CBS News reports that:

President Barack Obama delivers remarks about extending tax cuts for middle class people during an event in the Eisenhower Executive Office Building November 28, 2012 in Washington, DC.

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Since: Feb 08

Hypoluxo Fl

#1268 Dec 13, 2012
serfs up wrote:
<quoted text> Actually from reading books, literature and even religious scripture that tells you what happens when men become bigger then their britches. Stop with the faux news crap. They are moderate neo cons compared to real conservative needs or libertarian views. They do employ a small percentage who are those. An elitist controlled network like everything else you see and hear on national and most television and radio. You must have alzheimers as your answers do not deviate much or just a retarded person from the real voting patterns of progressive dems.
More 'factual' gibberish.
serfs up

Kissimmee, FL

#1269 Dec 13, 2012
Mykro wrote:
<quoted text>More 'factual' gibberish.
Are you a government agent mykro? Making sure that people who write facts are ridiculed! Lets get this straight. You will never, ever convince me otherwise from my life experience! Practically every military, police, firefighter and others in harms way may be Dems or Repubs but if they were worth their salt in their jobs, moved to a conservative vein at work and if taught right, administer their tasks with compassion. If you were a Nam vet, how could you think otherwise unless you were behind the lines a couple of hundred miles making the best of a bad war situation. Your president promotes hate and vengeance as a community organizer is all about. There is no way that people who follow the rules of humanity and the laws of god or at least try to will ever do that in return. But they can get even. And by doing that, it will bring Amerika down. And the elitists will love it one way or the other.

Since: Oct 08

Location hidden

#1270 Dec 13, 2012
Mykro wrote:
<quoted text>OK genius. Define 'factual gibberish'.
Factual gibberish is an oxymoron, You should know it, because you post it daily, gibberish that is..
booligan

Granger, IN

#1271 Dec 13, 2012
Terry Buckeye wrote:
<quoted text>
Your hatred of the country is so obviously based in the fact that your choice for President did not win the election. Therefore, you think that if you blame all of the country's woes on the President, it might validate your unAmerican attitude. It doesn't. It just makes you seem like a spoiled child who didn't get his way and is throwing a tantrum until someone gives him a pacifier.
There is nothing more UN-American than a president who is forcing a free people into socialism.
booligan

Granger, IN

#1272 Dec 13, 2012
Mykro wrote:
<quoted text>Factual gibberish? This must be something you heard on Faux News.
You've got the rest of the networks and print media to promote your lib propaganda. Why are you so incensed that one little station brings both sides to the people? I understand.

How about the coverage in Michigan this week? The union thugs attacked women and tried to smother them by tearing down their tent. Talk about libs and their war against women! I find it very interesting the MSM didn't even cover it. Not one showed the violence and thuggery of these union mobsters. I grew up in the Chicago area and saw how violent the teamsters were. These aswipes are nothing more than gangsters and our lib media never seems to reveal them for what they are. You people are such fools to think it's ok to be managed by the propaganda machine.

Since: Feb 08

Hypoluxo Fl

#1273 Dec 13, 2012
serfs up wrote:
<quoted text> Are you a government agent mykro? Making sure that people who write facts are ridiculed! Lets get this straight. You will never, ever convince me otherwise from my life experience! Practically every military, police, firefighter and others in harms way may be Dems or Repubs but if they were worth their salt in their jobs, moved to a conservative vein at work and if taught right, administer their tasks with compassion. If you were a Nam vet, how could you think otherwise unless you were behind the lines a couple of hundred miles making the best of a bad war situation. Your president promotes hate and vengeance as a community organizer is all about. There is no way that people who follow the rules of humanity and the laws of god or at least try to will ever do that in return. But they can get even. And by doing that, it will bring Amerika down. And the elitists will love it one way or the other.
Even More 'factual' gibberish.

Since: Feb 08

Hypoluxo Fl

#1274 Dec 13, 2012
Chicagoan by Birth wrote:
<quoted text>Factual gibberish is an oxymoron, You should know it, because you post it daily, gibberish that is..
Even More 'factual' gibberish, moron.

Since: Dec 11

Fort Worth, TX

#1275 Dec 13, 2012
booligan wrote:
<quoted text> There is nothing more UN-American than a president who is forcing a free people into socialism.
Nobody is being forced into socialism. The will of the people put this man in office. That's the way the system works. Might I suggest, for the next election, that you get out and try to get people who think as you do to vote for the candidate you follow? THAT is American. Everybody gets a vote. If you used yours and didn't get your way, suck it up. You get another chance to do more in four years.
Mannix

Ashburn, VA

#1276 Dec 13, 2012
serfs up wrote:
<quoted text> Are you a government agent mykro? Making sure that people who write facts are ridiculed! Lets get this straight. You will never, ever convince me otherwise from my life experience! Practically every military, police, firefighter and others in harms way may be Dems or Repubs but if they were worth their salt in their jobs, moved to a conservative vein at work and if taught right, administer their tasks with compassion. If you were a Nam vet, how could you think otherwise unless you were behind the lines a couple of hundred miles making the best of a bad war situation. Your president promotes hate and vengeance as a community organizer is all about. There is no way that people who follow the rules of humanity and the laws of god or at least try to will ever do that in return. But they can get even. And by doing that, it will bring Amerika down. And the elitists will love it one way or the other.
Another brilliant reply from the "Oxy State".

Ya ever noticed how the trashiest of the white trash move to Fla?

Since: Oct 12

Location hidden

#1277 Dec 13, 2012
Mannix wrote:
<quoted text>
Another brilliant reply from the "Oxy State".
Ya ever noticed how the trashiest of the white trash move to Fla?
Careful now....many moving here from California....
Pamela

Citrus Heights, CA

#1278 Dec 13, 2012
I saw on the news yesterday that European countries do not give their rich people social programs but that the U.S. does. Wow. Medicare and Social Security in the U.S. goes to EVERYONE, billionaires, millionaires, rich retirees, middle class retirees and it's all welfare after they have been on those programs for about two years. That is the socialism we have and the reason all both parties talk about is cutting them is because that is were all of the debt really is. SS and Medicare have $121 trillion in unfunded liabilities, that's why the politicians are trying to begin to cut those programs before they go bankrupt soon. So here in the U.S. we give rich people socialism and they don't do that in Europe. Although I guess the rich in Europe get government health care. But as far as you don't want socialism, well the big spending items and big socialism the U.S. has is Social Security and government Medicare. So if you don't want socialism, cancel out SS and Medicare now before they go bankrupt. That's what the Cato Institute says, that SS and Medicare is welfare for the middle class and for the rich cause after two years it's welfare to everyone and they get it no matter how rich they are. This is the problem that we have.
Billy Ringo

United States

#1279 Dec 13, 2012
sugarfoot7 wrote:
<quoted text>
who's going to come up with the rest of Obama's trillion dollar deficits? Maybe $80 billion if the rates go back to 39%, that still leaves over a trillion.
Who?
The soon-to-be ex Speaker of the House said we would "grow" our way out.

Since: Jan 11

Mount Holly, NJ

#1280 Dec 13, 2012
Terry Buckeye wrote:
<quoted text>
Nobody is being forced into socialism. The will of the people put this man in office. That's the way the system works. Might I suggest, for the next election, that you get out and try to get people who think as you do to vote for the candidate you follow? THAT is American. Everybody gets a vote. If you used yours and didn't get your way, suck it up. You get another chance to do more in four years.
Nobody elects a supreme court judge.
Eric Gustafson

Newport News, VA

#1281 Dec 13, 2012
Kahoki wrote:
We jumped off of the fiscal cliff in May 2012.
That is when our Debt to GDP ratio hit 101.5%.
Game over boys and girls.
Why did you look beyond Oct 2008 when GDP hit -9% amid Bank failures and escalating home foreclosures and Stock Market Collapse?
Eric Gustafson

Newport News, VA

#1282 Dec 13, 2012
It's the Middle Class who are debited for Social Security and Medicare payment from their wages, when the wealthy aren't and yet receive the benefits at age 65.

With wages in America being depressed over the last 33 years, Wage workers in the Middle Class aren't willing to forgo Social Security, with a median income of less than $26K a year in America, the typical American can't afford to participate in a 401K program offered on their jobs. With out pensions more than half of the Americans in the work force are screwed at retirement.

Social Security is all they have once they are ill or to old to maintain productivity on a job.
Pamela wrote:
I saw on the news yesterday that European countries do not give their rich people social programs but that the U.S. does. Wow. Medicare and Social Security in the U.S. goes to EVERYONE, billionaires, millionaires, rich retirees, middle class retirees and it's all welfare after they have been on those programs for about two years. That is the socialism we have and the reason all both parties talk about is cutting them is because that is were all of the debt really is. SS and Medicare have $121 trillion in unfunded liabilities, that's why the politicians are trying to begin to cut those programs before they go bankrupt soon. So here in the U.S. we give rich people socialism and they don't do that in Europe. Although I guess the rich in Europe get government health care. But as far as you don't want socialism, well the big spending items and big socialism the U.S. has is Social Security and government Medicare. So if you don't want socialism, cancel out SS and Medicare now before they go bankrupt. That's what the Cato Institute says, that SS and Medicare is welfare for the middle class and for the rich cause after two years it's welfare to everyone and they get it no matter how rich they are. This is the problem that we have.
Eric Gustafson

Newport News, VA

#1283 Dec 13, 2012
The Noble Peace Prize committee disagrees with your assessment on Obama.

He's the only American President who's ever won a Nobel Peace Prize while in office.
serfs up wrote:
<quoted text> Are you a government agent mykro? Making sure that people who write facts are ridiculed! Lets get this straight. You will never, ever convince me otherwise from my life experience! Practically every military, police, firefighter and others in harms way may be Dems or Repubs but if they were worth their salt in their jobs, moved to a conservative vein at work and if taught right, administer their tasks with compassion. If you were a Nam vet, how could you think otherwise unless you were behind the lines a couple of hundred miles making the best of a bad war situation. Your president promotes hate and vengeance as a community organizer is all about. There is no way that people who follow the rules of humanity and the laws of god or at least try to will ever do that in return. But they can get even. And by doing that, it will bring Amerika down. And the elitists will love it one way or the other.
Eric Gustafson

Newport News, VA

#1284 Dec 13, 2012
sugarfoot7 wrote:
<quoted text>
Hogwash, the democrat authored mortgage meltdown is the cause of our present situation and like a typical lib you pretend 9/11 never happened.
maybe you personally never blamed Bush for TARP, but your fellow travelers have numerous times.
Bush had a masters in Business from Harvard, I believe, what's your academic record? Bush had the deficit down to $163 billion the year before the dems took control of congress, pretty good considering 9/11 and it's aftermath.
Ha,,,,, The GOP held the Majority in the House for 12 year prior to 2007, yet it's the Democrats fault that the policies of deregulation resulted in the complete collapse of the American Financial System and an Economy that was producing full employment under Bill Clinton.

So you're selling the theory that 10 plus years after the CRA policy that governs Banks application for Branches, that Mortgage Companies not subject to the CRA made bad loans and sold them to investment banks under the Republican Majority in Congress is the democrats fault?

Is that the story you're trying to sell here?

Stop for a minute and think how bizarre your senario sounds
Eric Gustafson

Newport News, VA

#1285 Dec 13, 2012
sugarfoot7 wrote:
<quoted text>
Hogwash, the democrat authored mortgage meltdown is the cause of our present situation and like a typical lib you pretend 9/11 never happened.
maybe you personally never blamed Bush for TARP, but your fellow travelers have numerous times.
Bush had a masters in Business from Harvard, I believe, what's your academic record? Bush had the deficit down to $163 billion the year before the dems took control of congress, pretty good considering 9/11 and it's aftermath.
You seem to totally over look that Before Bush there was no deficit to bring down...... basically reducing Bush's overspending is nothing to celebrate given he ran deficits his entire time in Office.

Bringing down a deficit gets Bush no reward considering he squandered the Budget Surpluses totaling $284 Billion he was left by Bill Clinton.......
Eric Gustafson

Newport News, VA

#1286 Dec 13, 2012
sugarfoot7 wrote:
<quoted text>
Will you hold your breath?
The names of republicans who ran deficits over a trillion dollars..........
none
George Bush was the First to Amass a Trillion Plus Deficit, the problem is that you and most Conservative Supportes refuse to acknowledge that the 2009 Budge, which began in Oct 2008 is the Bush Last Fiscal Spending Budget, That 10.6 Trillion was the Debt after 7 years of Bush Spending, he was a two term president with 8 Fiscal years, not 7, the 2009 Fiscal Year was Bush's 8th and last year that deficit was $1.4 Trillion.

You being here discussing Budgets should be aware of when the Federal Fiscal year begins.

Bush Budgets compared to Bill Clinton's Budgets

1993 -255,051< George H. W Bush Last Year

Bill Clinton
1994 -203,186< Bill Clinton First Budget Deficit
1995 -163,952,--- Bill Clinton Budget Deficit
1996 -107,431<--- Bill Clinton Budget Deficit
1997 -21,884<-- Billion Clinton Budget Deficit
1998 69,270<--- Bill Clinton Budget Surplus
1999 125,610<--- Bill Clinton Budget Surplus
2000 236,241<--- Bill Clinton Budget Surplus
2001 128,236<--- Bill Clinton Last Budget a Surplus

George W. Bush Budget Deficits
2002 -157,758<--- Deficit
2003 -377,585<--- Deficit
2004 -412,727<--- Deficit
2005 -318,346<--- Deficit
2006 -248,181<--- Deficit
2007 -162,002<--- Deficit
2008 -455,000<--- Deficit
2009 -1.4 Trillion<--- Deficit

Clinton reduced and eventually eliminated George H. W. Bush's Deficit before turning over to Bush Jr Budget Surpluses accumulated over 4 years.
reality

Germantown, OH

#1287 Dec 13, 2012
Pamela wrote:
I saw on the news yesterday that European countries do not give their rich people social programs but that the U.S. does. Wow. Medicare and Social Security in the U.S. goes to EVERYONE, billionaires, millionaires, rich retirees, middle class retirees and it's all welfare after they have been on those programs for about two years. That is the socialism we have and the reason all both parties talk about is cutting them is because that is were all of the debt really is. SS and Medicare have $121 trillion in unfunded liabilities, that's why the politicians are trying to begin to cut those programs before they go bankrupt soon. So here in the U.S. we give rich people socialism and they don't do that in Europe. Although I guess the rich in Europe get government health care. But as far as you don't want socialism, well the big spending items and big socialism the U.S. has is Social Security and government Medicare. So if you don't want socialism, cancel out SS and Medicare now before they go bankrupt. That's what the Cato Institute says, that SS and Medicare is welfare for the middle class and for the rich cause after two years it's welfare to everyone and they get it no matter how rich they are. This is the problem that we have.
Hey Pamela the Left Coast Hypocrite! What's keeping that medicare psych of yours from figuring out how to stabilize those meds? Of course you know sooner or later you're going to have to pull your asz off that couch and get a JOB!

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