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Obama taking "fiscal cliff" fight to the public

There are 2428 comments on the CBS News story from Nov 30, 2012, titled Obama taking "fiscal cliff" fight to the public. In it, CBS News reports that:

President Barack Obama delivers remarks about extending tax cuts for middle class people during an event in the Eisenhower Executive Office Building November 28, 2012 in Washington, DC.

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Since: Aug 10

Hollis Center, ME

#933 Dec 9, 2012
Teaman wrote:
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What does that unemployed person produce in return for that dollar? Commerce needs production. Basically, that amounts to the government becoming the customer.
This state passed a millionaires tax or luxury tax under Corzine that wiped out the state's boat building business some years back.
the unemployed person doesn't need to produce anything with that dollar, as they paid into the unemployment INSURANCE program while they were working, and will do so again when they regain employment.

Also, the unemployed person produces FAR MORE with that dollar than an extremely wealthy person does. Every dollar of unemployment compensation is cycled into the economy, producing nearly 1.25 in economic activity.

Conversely, the multi millionaire rarely reintroduces that dollar back into the economy, and therefor procured absoloutely nothing. No jobs, no commerce, no benefit to anyone but himself. Also, most millionaires get their income as investment income, which means they produce nothing in return for any of their compensation.

Lastly, as a decent person, I would rather see a family receive my tax dollars to feed and house their children....than watch some billionaire walk away with it when he contributes nothing to American society
the best pilot

Dothan, AL

#934 Dec 9, 2012
hay yall i see mr obama gaining ground the economy has started to recover we see more goods things started to inprove. we trust our president mr obama.
the best people

Dothan, AL

#935 Dec 9, 2012
WMCOL wrote:
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>>>About 10% of the tea party are democrats.<<<
Just about same percentage of Republicans who voted Democrat, and the percentage of Democrats who voted Republican. However what was a little different this time was about 18% of white Democrats voted Republican. That's up from the past and with more Democrats leaving for Republican party, it is definitely becoming the party of white America.
On one side is white America and on the other minorities such as blacks, latinos, asians, islanders, and others. This is all coming to a head in the very near future. In about forty-years. I won't be around but y'all who will be, have fun.
We've never learned to live in this nation with each other. In that it makes us not much different than many parts of the world.
well call us anything but our president is number in our eyes and the world.and we support him to. mr obama we trust him.

Since: Feb 11

Location hidden

#936 Dec 9, 2012
Teaman wrote:
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I don't know if it will divide down racial lines. I don't know of too many Asians that vote democratic,
Yes, you don't know very much of anything,m to be sure.

Still waiting for those "DEMOCRATS" ELECTED who
have been identified as tea baggers.
Piggy

Sterling, VA

#937 Dec 9, 2012
I'm hoping we go over the cliff. I'm tell ya dudes when and if we go over the cliff The Republican party is dead. May they RIP.
Barbara

Prides Crossing, MA

#938 Dec 9, 2012
Teaman wrote:
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I don't know if it will divide down racial lines. I don't know of too many Asians that vote democratic, if they vote at all. Most are business owners.
Romney really screwed up the Latino vote. Most are hard working family oriented folks. A lot of them, up here, are also business owners.
You will always have a divide as long as the federal government imposes itself in on the role of the states and the ability of the people to govern themselves with state government where they have the most control. Washington St. and Colorado are the most recent examples. The federal government is going to cause problems there.
Asians voted for President Obama.
http://www.nationaljournal.com/blogs/hotlineo...
Barbara

Prides Crossing, MA

#939 Dec 9, 2012
Piggy wrote:
I'm hoping we go over the cliff. I'm tell ya dudes when and if we go over the cliff The Republican party is dead. May they RIP.
You know it, I know it ... and they know it. That's why they're distancing themselves from Grover Norquist & why Boehner took some of the remaining few off key committees.
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“To Eff The Ineffable”

Since: Nov 12

Wailuku

#941 Dec 9, 2012
Teaman wrote:
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I don't know if it will divide down racial lines. I don't know of too many Asians that vote democratic, if they vote at all. Most are business owners.
Romney really screwed up the Latino vote. Most are hard working family oriented folks. A lot of them, up here, are also business owners.
You will always have a divide as long as the federal government imposes itself in on the role of the states and the ability of the people to govern themselves with state government where they have the most control. Washington St. and Colorado are the most recent examples. The federal government is going to cause problems there.
I know quite a few Asians and,yes, many of them vote, some for one party some for another. Some just vote for the candidate regardless of party. Some own businesses, more don't but have jobs in various professions and trades. Some are disabled, others retired. Some receive welfare, food stamps or unemployment insurance payments, but few wouldn't go back to work given the opportunity. Actually, I could say the same for people of any ancestry.
Of course you can find parasites in any population but most people do try for something better.
titonton divaunte pants

United States

#942 Dec 10, 2012
Mykro wrote:
<quoted text>Paul 'Lyin' Ryan already did.
" September 18th, 2012
Last week the mainstream media hailed QE3 as the "quick fix" that the U.S. economydesperately needs,butthe truthis that the policies that the Federal Reserve is pursuingare going tobe absolutely devastating for our seniorcitizens. By keeping interest rates at exceptionally low levels, the Federal Reserve is absolutely crushing savers and is systematically destroying Social Security. Meanwhile, the inflation that QE3 will cause is going to be absolutely crippling for the millions upon millions of retired Americans that are on a fixed income. Sadly most citizens aren't aware of what the federal resereve is doing with QE3."
titonton divaunte pants

United States

#943 Dec 10, 2012
Mykro wrote:
<quoted text>Mitten couldn't pass the smell test.
"mittens". Go get some new talking points from your favorite cfr owned corporate news source.
titonton divaunte pants

United States

#944 Dec 10, 2012
Terry Buckeye wrote:
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Instead of clicking on your link and hearing or reading about the opinion of someone else, I decided to read the “Federal Restricted Buildings and Grounds Improvement Act of 2011” or HR347. I just don't see where it has restricted any of MY rights, as I don't have any plans to disrupt any public officials. Now, I could see why a terrorist or an anarchist or a fanatic might have a complaint as it DOES restrict their access to their targets. I very seldom use links in my posts, but in the interest of fairness, I include the Government Printing Office's link to that particular resolution. Try reading it without the rhetoric and propaganda to guide you.
And no, I didn't vote in my 40 year old blues. And yes, I am a real Buckeye, born and raised in the Ohio Valley.
http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/BILLS-112hr347en...
that's fine then you agree war protesters in front of a federal building should be treated like "terrorists". You have your right to that opinion. I disagree, and if you didn't like the patriot act what about obama expanding it?
Go browns. Have to say I'm intimidated by rg3 though...
titonton divaunte pants

United States

#945 Dec 10, 2012
Terry Buckeye wrote:
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Instead of clicking on your link and hearing or reading about the opinion of someone else, I decided to read the “Federal Restricted Buildings and Grounds Improvement Act of 2011” or HR347. I just don't see where it has restricted any of MY rights, as I don't have any plans to disrupt any public officials. Now, I could see why a terrorist or an anarchist or a fanatic might have a complaint as it DOES restrict their access to their targets. I very seldom use links in my posts, but in the interest of fairness, I include the Government Printing Office's link to that particular resolution. Try reading it without the rhetoric and propaganda to guide you.
And no, I didn't vote in my 40 year old blues. And yes, I am a real Buckeye, born and raised in the Ohio Valley.
http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/BILLS-112hr347en...
btw buckheye, since 9-12-01, you have more of a chance getting killed shopping on black Friday then by a terrorist. But you have the right to be afraid of the boogyman too.
titonton divaunte pants

United States

#946 Dec 10, 2012
Terry Buckeye wrote:
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Possilby because they knew that their party had not nominated a viable candidate.
after the third debate, abortion ang gay marrage were the only issues I think they had clear differences on.neither I care too much about. And who knows how much romney would have parroted obama on those had they come to light.
titonton divaunte pants

United States

#947 Dec 10, 2012
barefoot2626 wrote:
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If you had stayed in school and taken a macroeconomics class, maybe you would come to understand how governments climb out of a recession or a depression, and the infusion of cash would make more 'sence'.
it would make more sense if the cash were worth something. What are they guing to do? Back it with bad mortgages? http://www.redstate.com/2012/10/26/government...
OH NO YOU Did not

Rancho Cucamonga, CA

#948 Dec 10, 2012
barefoot2626 wrote:
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I see...
So it is a legal donation?
Like donations that Bush took for his inauguration?
Oh my...
Dear, dear Obamaton don't you realize that Obama has sold you out once again unless you are a corporation paying big bucks. It is a complete myth only Republicans get corporate dollars!

http://www.opensecrets.org/overview/topcontri...

CHECK THIS OUT! DEMS REP

14 AFL-CIO $6,854,126 $595,753 74% 26%$6,258,373
15 National Assn of Realtors $6,803,987 $3,984,211 45% 55%$2,819,776
16 American Federation of Teachers $6,670,327 $2,703,769 100% 0%$3,966,558
17 Euclidean Capital $6,094,100 $94,100 95% 5%$6,000,000
18 Renaissance Technologies $6,092,370 $553,016 60% 40%$5,539,354
19 Plumbers/Pipefitters Union $5,589,603 $2,323,003 95% 5%$3,266,600
20 TRT Holdings $5,321,600 $186,600 0% 100%$5,135,000
21 Specialty Group Inc $5,275,000 $0 0% 0%$5,275,000
22 Bain Capital $5,265,458 $2,002,958 31% 69%$3,262,500

WOW, FANCY THAT BAIN CAPITAL GAVE THE DEMOCRATS 31% OF THEIR POLITICAL DONATIONS. I GUESS THAT MEANS YOU NEED TO TAKE A BATH AS BAIN CAPITAL DIRT IS ALL OVER THE DEMOCRATS. THE DNC IS NOT TRUE LIBERALS ACCORDING TO THEIR ACCEPTANCE OF BAIN CAPITAL'S MONEY.
OH NO YOU Did not

Rancho Cucamonga, CA

#949 Dec 10, 2012
Mykro wrote:
<quoted text>Well then, show me at least one Democrat that is a teabagger.
SURE HERE YOU GO!

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/polls/905...

"Survey: Four in 10 Tea Party members are Democrats or independents
By Sean J. Miller - 04/04/10 02:29 PM ET

Four in 10 Tea Party members are either Democrats or Independents, according to a new national survey.

The findings provide one of the most detailed portraits to date of the grassroots movement that started last year.

The national breakdown of the Tea Party composition is 57 percent Republican, 28 percent Independent and 13 percent Democratic, according to three national polls by the Winston Group, a Republican-leaning firm that conducted the surveys on behalf of an education advocacy group. Two-thirds of the group call themselves conservative, 26 are moderate and 8 percent say they are liberal.

The Winston Group conducted three national telephone surveys of 1,000 registered voters between December and February. Of those polled, 17 percent – more than 500 people -- said they were “part of the Tea Party movement.”

“It’s a good sample size,” said David Winston, the polling firm’s director.“It will certainly give us an initial base to follow where these folks are.”

The group is united around two issues – the economy/jobs and reducing the deficit. They believe that cutting spending is the key to job creation and favor tax cuts as the best way to stimulate the economy. That said 61 percent of Tea Party members believe infrastructure spending creates jobs. Moreover, given the choice Tea Party members favor 63-32 reducing unemployment to 5 percent over balancing the budget.

It isn’t a “purely homogeneous” group, said Winston.

The group has a favorable view of Republicans generally but that drops from 71 to 57 percent if they’re asked about Congressional Republicans. Congressional Democrats are viewed very unfavorably by 75 percent of Tea Party members – a uniquely strong antipathy. An overwhelming 95 percent said “Democrats are taxing, spending, and borrowing too much.”

The group also vehemently dislikes President Barack Obama – even more so than those who called themselves Republicans in the survey. Over 80 percent of Tea Party members disapprove of the job he’s doing as president, whereas 77 percent of Republican respondents said they disapprove of Obama. The Tea Party members are also strongly opposed to the Democrats’ healthcare plan, with 82 percent saying they oppose it -- only 48 percent of respondents overall were opposed.

Tea Party members are more likely to be male, slightly older and middle income. Almost half the members of the group reported getting their news about national issues from Fox News, 10 percent of respondents said that talk radio is one of their top two sources, which is seven-points higher than the average voter."
ronones

Masontown, PA

#950 Dec 10, 2012
youtube.com/watch... Obama excuses for Tax increases are not supported here
OH NO YOU Did not

Rancho Cucamonga, CA

#951 Dec 10, 2012
goose wrote:
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Survey: Four in 10 Tea Party members are Democrats or independents
www.thehill.com
googole it, you will find other sites.
I provided the link and verbiage in case they are too lazy to follow the link which usually they are.
OH NO YOU Did not

Rancho Cucamonga, CA

#952 Dec 10, 2012
Stoneman wrote:
The Stoneman Predicts:
The Republicans in Congress will ultimately concede to Lord Obama, hiking taxes starting in 2013 (on top of all the other taxes that are coming due to Obamacare). The most they will get is a "concession" from Lord Obama that he will "consider" cutting the RATE OF GROWTH of entitlements.
Then once Lord Obama has his tax hike, he'll develop amnesia about "considering" cutting the RATE OF GROWTH of entitlements.
Folks, we have a serious economic problem. Our debt is soaring toward 20 TRILLION DOLLARS. One in four public school kids is getting free or reduced price lunches, dinners, breakfasts and meals during the summer. Over 40 million people are getting food stamps. The only way you can calculate the unemployment rate to be less than 10% is if more people just quit looking for a job.
So will a Socialist/Democrat out there please explain to me why the ANSWER TO OUR PROBLEMS is to tax the hell out of a few rich people and spend it on more unemployment checks?
They can't except for class warfare viewpoint and jealousy on their part as it appears they could not make anything of themselves. lol

Since: Feb 08

Hypoluxo Fl

#953 Dec 10, 2012
titonton divaunte pants wrote:
<quoted text> "mittens". Go get some new talking points from your favorite cfr owned corporate news source.
When you frightwingnut hypocrites start referring to the president by his correct name, maybe, just maybe, I won't refer to Mittens as Mittens.

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