Obama taking "fiscal cliff" fight to the public

Nov 30, 2012 Full story: CBS News 2,430

President Barack Obama delivers remarks about extending tax cuts for middle class people during an event in the Eisenhower Executive Office Building November 28, 2012 in Washington, DC.

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Since: Feb 08

Hypoluxo Fl

#908 Dec 9, 2012
goose wrote:
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Survey: Four in 10 Tea Party members are Democrats or independents
www.thehill.com
googole it, you will find other sites.
Yeah, the opinion poll of 1000 people polled by the Winston Group, a Republican-leaning firm.

Tea Party members are more likely to be male, slightly older and middle income. Almost half the members of the group reported getting their news about national issues from Fox News, 10 percent of respondents said that talk radio is one of their top two sources, which is seven-points higher than the average voter.

Faux News and talk radio? That says it all.

Since: Feb 08

Hypoluxo Fl

#909 Dec 9, 2012
Teaman wrote:
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In your state, Rep. Kathy Castor (D) would be one. Her campaign was severely unfunded. I do admit democrats who run with tea party support would do much better if they changed to independent. Some blue dog democrats get some support, especially in the south, depending on who they're running against. Locally in Pennsylvania, a tea party backed candidate, Tom Smith, a life long democrat, changed his party to repub. He would have done better if he stayed a democrat. He didn't get any GOP backing.
About 10% of the tea party are democrats. Admittedly, most are registered republicans.
People can register how they want. If you're a Dem claiming to be in the Tea Party, you have zero chance of getting a nomination.

Since: Dec 11

Fort Worth, TX

#910 Dec 9, 2012
titonton divaunte pants wrote:
<quoted text>obama signed to keep the patriot act. In fact he expanded it. I did complain when bush signed it. You're the hypocrite who supports obama when he expands it and he has taken away more civil rights than any other usa president in history. http://liberalpro.blogspot.com/2012/11/what-d... especially with hr 347 taking our right to protest. http://www.inquisitr.com/206017/president-oba...
Wow! Did you go vote so uninformed? Any real buckeyes out there? Go bucks!
Instead of clicking on your link and hearing or reading about the opinion of someone else, I decided to read the “Federal Restricted Buildings and Grounds Improvement Act of 2011” or HR347. I just don't see where it has restricted any of MY rights, as I don't have any plans to disrupt any public officials. Now, I could see why a terrorist or an anarchist or a fanatic might have a complaint as it DOES restrict their access to their targets. I very seldom use links in my posts, but in the interest of fairness, I include the Government Printing Office's link to that particular resolution. Try reading it without the rhetoric and propaganda to guide you.
And no, I didn't vote in my 40 year old blues. And yes, I am a real Buckeye, born and raised in the Ohio Valley.

http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/BILLS-112hr347en...

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#911 Dec 9, 2012
Teaman wrote:
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In your state, Rep. Kathy Castor (D) would be one. Her campaign was severely unfunded. I do admit democrats who run with tea party support would do much better if they changed to independent. Some blue dog democrats get some support, especially in the south, depending on who they're running against. Locally in Pennsylvania, a tea party backed candidate, Tom Smith, a life long democrat, changed his party to repub. He would have done better if he stayed a democrat. He didn't get any GOP backing.
About 10% of the tea party are democrats. Admittedly, most are registered republicans.
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>>>About 10% of the tea party are democrats.<<<

Just about same percentage of Republicans who voted Democrat, and the percentage of Democrats who voted Republican. However what was a little different this time was about 18% of white Democrats voted Republican. That's up from the past and with more Democrats leaving for Republican party, it is definitely becoming the party of white America.

On one side is white America and on the other minorities such as blacks, latinos, asians, islanders, and others. This is all coming to a head in the very near future. In about forty-years. I won't be around but y'all who will be, have fun.

We've never learned to live in this nation with each other. In that it makes us not much different than many parts of the world.

Since: Jan 11

Mount Holly, NJ

#912 Dec 9, 2012
Mykro wrote:
<quoted text>People can register how they want. If you're a Dem claiming to be in the Tea Party, you have zero chance of getting a nomination.
Yes, that was my point with Tom Smith. He should have run as an independent.

Since: Jul 10

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#913 Dec 9, 2012
Terry Buckeye wrote:
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Instead of clicking on your link and hearing or reading about the opinion of someone else, I decided to read the “Federal Restricted Buildings and Grounds Improvement Act of 2011” or HR347. I just don't see where it has restricted any of MY rights, as I don't have any plans to disrupt any public officials. Now, I could see why a terrorist or an anarchist or a fanatic might have a complaint as it DOES restrict their access to their targets. I very seldom use links in my posts, but in the interest of fairness, I include the Government Printing Office's link to that particular resolution. Try reading it without the rhetoric and propaganda to guide you.
And no, I didn't vote in my 40 year old blues. And yes, I am a real Buckeye, born and raised in the Ohio Valley.
http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/BILLS-112hr347en...
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Absolutely. If some of these folks would consult the official documents they'd find they are so far off base it is totally absurd. But they are not really concerned about learning the truth and just like to spread lies and misrepresentations.

Since: Feb 08

Hypoluxo Fl

#914 Dec 9, 2012
Teaman wrote:
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Yes, that was my point with Tom Smith. He should have run as an independent.
Candidates that run as indepedents never get elected. They only become independents after they get elected.

Since: Dec 11

Fort Worth, TX

#915 Dec 9, 2012
Mykro wrote:
<quoted text>Candidates that run as indepedents never get elected. They only become independents after they get elected.
That is true. They would never have the funds available to compete with the two major political parties in a campaign. I think it's when they get elected and realize how dogmatic their parties are that they become independents. And very few of them lean very far from their original party line.

Since: Feb 11

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#916 Dec 9, 2012
titonton divaunte pants wrote:
15 million registered republicans didn't even want to vote!
who can blame them?

Since: Feb 11

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#917 Dec 9, 2012
titonton divaunte pants wrote:
But I'm sure obama is going to reduce the debt. That's why they raised the debt limit.
If you had stayed in school and taken a macroeconomics class, maybe you would come to understand how governments climb out of a recession or a depression, and the infusion of cash would make more 'sence'.

Since: Dec 11

Fort Worth, TX

#918 Dec 9, 2012
titonton divaunte pants wrote:
<quoted text> something that's not in all the papers.. 15 million registered republicans didn't even want to vote!
Possilby because they knew that their party had not nominated a viable candidate.

“To Eff The Ineffable”

Since: Nov 12

Wailuku

#919 Dec 9, 2012
[QUOTE
As far as being king goes, part of Obama's budget proposal is for the executive branch be able to raise the debt limit. Congress holding the purse strings is part of the balance of the branches.
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This budget proposal first proposed by senate minority leader Mitch McConnell in 2011. Re-proposed (and filibustered) by McConnell a couple of days ago.

Since: Dec 11

Fort Worth, TX

#920 Dec 9, 2012
Tavita wrote:
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This budget proposal first proposed by senate minority leader Mitch McConnell in 2011. Re-proposed (and filibustered) by McConnell a couple of days ago.
Is it just me, or do others find it odd that a man would propose a thing and then work to see that it doesn't pass? And the man will probably be re-elected! Is it any wonder the country is in the shape it is?
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#922 Dec 9, 2012
goose wrote:
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Survey: Four in 10 Tea Party members are Democrats or independents
OR Independents...

HAHAHAHAAHAHHAAHAHAHHAHAAHHA!

Let's see... seventy percent of "independents" are Republicans who just don't want to say they are REpublicans.

On the outside, one tea bagger in ten is a "Democrat".

And this is reflected in the number of Democrats in Congress who are members of the tea party: ZERO.
Stoneman

Boise, ID

#923 Dec 9, 2012
The Stoneman Predicts:

The Republicans in Congress will ultimately concede to Lord Obama, hiking taxes starting in 2013 (on top of all the other taxes that are coming due to Obamacare). The most they will get is a "concession" from Lord Obama that he will "consider" cutting the RATE OF GROWTH of entitlements.

Then once Lord Obama has his tax hike, he'll develop amnesia about "considering" cutting the RATE OF GROWTH of entitlements.

Folks, we have a serious economic problem. Our debt is soaring toward 20 TRILLION DOLLARS. One in four public school kids is getting free or reduced price lunches, dinners, breakfasts and meals during the summer. Over 40 million people are getting food stamps. The only way you can calculate the unemployment rate to be less than 10% is if more people just quit looking for a job.

So will a Socialist/Democrat out there please explain to me why the ANSWER TO OUR PROBLEMS is to tax the hell out of a few rich people and spend it on more unemployment checks?

Since: Aug 10

Buffalo, NY

#924 Dec 9, 2012
Stoneman wrote:
The Stoneman Predicts:
The Republicans in Congress will ultimately concede to Lord Obama, hiking taxes starting in 2013 (on top of all the other taxes that are coming due to Obamacare). The most they will get is a "concession" from Lord Obama that he will "consider" cutting the RATE OF GROWTH of entitlements.
Then once Lord Obama has his tax hike, he'll develop amnesia about "considering" cutting the RATE OF GROWTH of entitlements.
Folks, we have a serious economic problem. Our debt is soaring toward 20 TRILLION DOLLARS. One in four public school kids is getting free or reduced price lunches, dinners, breakfasts and meals during the summer. Over 40 million people are getting food stamps. The only way you can calculate the unemployment rate to be less than 10% is if more people just quit looking for a job.
So will a Socialist/Democrat out there please explain to me why the ANSWER TO OUR PROBLEMS is to tax the hell out of a few rich people and spend it on more unemployment checks?
its really a quite simple concept.

If you take a single tax dollar and give it to a billionaire in the form of a tax cut, that money does not flow back into the economy

If you give someone that dollar as unemployment INSURANCE (which we pay into while employed), that dollar instantly flows back into the economy, thereby keeping someone employed at the grocery store, restaurant, gas station, mechanic shop, power company, bus station, taxi driver, etc etc etc

It ain't rocket science
gossamer

Warren, MI

#925 Dec 9, 2012
Mykro wrote:
<quoted text>Name one.
Keep in mind that googling teabaggers will get you teabags.

Try Tea Party.
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Since: Feb 08

Hypoluxo Fl

#927 Dec 9, 2012
gossamer wrote:
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Keep in mind that googling teabaggers will get you teabags.
Try Tea Party.
Try this, teabagger...

The first big day for this movement was Tax Day, April 15. 2009. And organizers had a gimmick. They asked people to send a tea bag to the Oval Office. One of the exhortations was “Tea Bag the Fools in D.C.” A protester was spotted with a sign saying,“Tea Bag the Liberal Dems Before They Tea Bag You.” So, conservatives started it: started with this terminology.

JAY NORDLINGER, National Review

Since: Jan 11

Mount Holly, NJ

#928 Dec 9, 2012
Mykro wrote:
<quoted text>Candidates that run as indepedents never get elected. They only become independents after they get elected.
That's probably true. One has to be a party hack to get campaign money.

Since: Jan 11

Mount Holly, NJ

#929 Dec 9, 2012
FFS- wrote:
<quoted text>its really a quite simple concept.
If you take a single tax dollar and give it to a billionaire in the form of a tax cut, that money does not flow back into the economy
If you give someone that dollar as unemployment INSURANCE (which we pay into while employed), that dollar instantly flows back into the economy, thereby keeping someone employed at the grocery store, restaurant, gas station, mechanic shop, power company, bus station, taxi driver, etc etc etc
It ain't rocket science
What does that unemployed person produce in return for that dollar? Commerce needs production. Basically, that amounts to the government becoming the customer.

This state passed a millionaires tax or luxury tax under Corzine that wiped out the state's boat building business some years back.

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