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Feinstein, McCarthy Unveil Strengthened Assault Weapons Ban

There are 529 comments on the Roll Call story from Jan 24, 2013, titled Feinstein, McCarthy Unveil Strengthened Assault Weapons Ban. In it, Roll Call reports that:

Democrats in both chambers unveiled legislation they are introducing Thursday that would reinstate and considerably strengthen the expired federal ban on assault weapons and large ammunition magazines.

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“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#419 Jan 29, 2013
Tray wrote:
<quoted text> Yet again you lie. NO GOVERNMENT entity that has AR15's in their possession or use lists them as assault weapons, that includes those seven states. NO COMPANY that produces and sells guns lists an assault weapon in their catalog or inventory or production list. It is only a term used by anti self defense nuts like you.
If it's a semi-automatic rifle with a pistol grip then the AR15 meets the NY state definition of an assault weapon and their sale is banned.

“Antisocialistic”

Since: May 12

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#420 Jan 29, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
<quoted text>Nope, still don't see where the constitution says you can own an AR-15.

The SCOTUS has only ruled you have a right to own a handgun in your own home for self defense. That's why the bans on assault weapons in 7 states still stand.
That's just it. The 2nd doesn't categorize, it simply refers to Arms. That is all inclusive. The People had the same firepower as the military when the 2nd was written. That is who we would face if the need to thwart tyranny arose. That's the mindset with which the founding fathers wrote the 2nd.
Tray

Shannon, MS

#421 Jan 29, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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If the 2nd amendment was "self evident" then there wouldn't have been 4 justices voting to uphold D.C. & Chicago's ban on handguns.
You mean like all the politicians and judges that upheld slavery? Just because it was an opinion does not negate a right. Do your research, SCOTUS has time and time again said they need not rule on gun rights as it is self evident. They have also ruled they can not hear a case or render an opinion on issues outside their jurisdiction.
Tray

Shannon, MS

#422 Jan 29, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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If it's a semi-automatic rifle with a pistol grip then the AR15 meets the NY state definition of an assault weapon and their sale is banned.
Yet NY state has and maintains AR15's yet does not list any assault weapons in their inventory. Why does their definition only apply to citizens and not to government entities? When the NY police department was asked "Do you have assault weapons" they answered "No but we do have AR15's". Care to explain that?
Tray

Shannon, MS

#423 Jan 29, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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Then go to New York (or any of the 7 states which ban them) and exercise your supposed right to buy an assault rifle.......
Even those seven states don't have the same definition of "assault weapon". According to the ATF the full auto M16 is NOT an assault weapon and the ban does not apply to them because "assault weapon" is a semi auto and the M16 is full auto making the ban useless against REAL assault rifles. Care to explain how a pistol grip makes one gun more dangerous than another or is it just an excuse?
Tray

Shannon, MS

#424 Jan 29, 2013
The development of the rifle known today as the AR-15 started in 1956. The strategy to ban it was unveiled in 1988.

At that time, Josh Sugarmann, former communications director of the National Coalition to Ban Handguns, pointed out in a strategy paper that the media had grown tired of the handgun issue, but “assault weapons” would be novel to them.

Further, he added in the memo,“The semi-automatic weapons’ menacing looks, coupled with the public’s confusion over fully automatic machine guns versus semi-automatic assault weapons—anything that looks like a machine gun is assumed to be a machine gun—can only increase the chance of public support for restrictions on these weapons”

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#425 Jan 29, 2013
Prep-for-Dep wrote:
<quoted text>
That's just it. The 2nd doesn't categorize, it simply refers to Arms. That is all inclusive. The People had the same firepower as the military when the 2nd was written. That is who we would face if the need to thwart tyranny arose. That's the mindset with which the founding fathers wrote the 2nd.
If that were the case then the people would be able to own nukes and machine guns and rpgs and fully armed tanks etc without regulation.

If they can restrict one type of arms, then they can restrict others.

That's why the federal circuit appeals court for DC upheld their ban on assault weapons and high capacity magazines in 2011.

Since: Aug 11

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#426 Jan 29, 2013
au contraire wrote:
<quoted text>Moron, a single shot will kill you just as dead as a 1000 round belt. Dead is dead.
I can think of 3 cases locally here over the years where a single barrel shotgun was used to stop either assaults or armed burglars. BOOM! Done....

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#427 Jan 29, 2013
Tray wrote:
<quoted text> Even those seven states don't have the same definition of "assault weapon". According to the ATF the full auto M16 is NOT an assault weapon and the ban does not apply to them because "assault weapon" is a semi auto and the M16 is full auto making the ban useless against REAL assault rifles. Care to explain how a pistol grip makes one gun more dangerous than another or is it just an excuse?
Explain why a pistol grip is necessary?

It plays into the psycho survivalist wannabe military video-gamer mentality; a very dangerous combination as we've seen recently.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#428 Jan 29, 2013
Tray wrote:
<quoted text> Yet NY state has and maintains AR15's yet does not list any assault weapons in their inventory. Why does their definition only apply to citizens and not to government entities? When the NY police department was asked "Do you have assault weapons" they answered "No but we do have AR15's". Care to explain that?
Because law enforcement officers are treated differently than regular civilians; just as the military and national guard are.

Since: Aug 11

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#429 Jan 29, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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And their opinion is the final word.
How often do you pull your head out of your colon to breathe? Or do you have air piped in?

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#430 Jan 29, 2013
Tray wrote:
<quoted text> You mean like all the politicians and judges that upheld slavery? Just because it was an opinion does not negate a right. Do your research, SCOTUS has time and time again said they need not rule on gun rights as it is self evident. They have also ruled they can not hear a case or render an opinion on issues outside their jurisdiction.
Hmmmmm, and yet the SCOTUS has indeed ruled on run rights issues; most recently in the Heller & McDonald cases. Those rulings just happened to go 5-4 in favor of gun rights; they could have just as easily gone 5-4 against.

Obviously they CAN rule on the 2nd amendment.

Since: Aug 11

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#431 Jan 29, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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Explain why a pistol grip is necessary?
It plays into the psycho survivalist wannabe military video-gamer mentality; a very dangerous combination as we've seen recently.
Do you have an opinion on SPORKS?

Since: Aug 11

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#432 Jan 29, 2013
Tray wrote:
<quoted text> Yet NY state has and maintains AR15's yet does not list any assault weapons in their inventory. Why does their definition only apply to citizens and not to government entities? When the NY police department was asked "Do you have assault weapons" they answered "No but we do have AR15's". Care to explain that?
I know for a fact that the New York State Department Of Corrections has AR-15 rifles for tower officers. They had Remington 870P 12 gauge shotguns as well and the issue handgun was a Smith & Wesson Model 10 4" heavy barrel .38.
alan

Portland, ND

#433 Jan 29, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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You might want to remember how Ruby Ridge turned out before making such a statement.
what in hell does that mean?you mean when the feds shot a dog and kids to get to randy weaver all alone on ruby ridge for having a sawed off shotgun?when the feds shot his wife holding a baby?when the feds paid weaver money for their screw up but couldnt bring back to life his wife and baby?the feds are gungho shit heads that couldnt deal with one man on a ridge!now they want our guns?the atf stands for all turds fornicating,and the fbi is the fat,bald and ignorant!they love to push citizens around with their might?weaver was also a special forces man but didnt mean squat to the gungho feds!today we kiss islamist asses like fort hood killer hasan whom still hasnt been brought to trail?weaver should have been an islamist instead of a green beret!his family would still be alive?

“JESUS WOULD IMPEACH THE GOP!!!”

Since: May 09

Lake Success, N.Y.

#434 Jan 29, 2013
Armed Veteran wrote:
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You have never been broken into yet you have an alarm system??? What are you, paranoid????
It's quite simple - if a burglar sees an alarm sign, statistics show there is an 80% reduced chance of being burglarized.

Anyone can put "I have a weapon" on their door - what good does that do you in your neighborhood obviously?

And for your information, "satellite based" alarm means just that - no wires hooking into a cable system. All sensors, including the sweep sensor, are wirelessly connected to my security panel, which in turn, is linked to a satellite that monitors my home, and the fire alarm also works the same as well. Need more enlightenment?

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Tray

Shannon, MS

#435 Jan 29, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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Explain why a pistol grip is necessary?
It plays into the psycho survivalist wannabe military video-gamer mentality; a very dangerous combination as we've seen recently.
The problem with your lie is pistol grips were around long before video games. Another is "lately" humans have been killing each other for thousands of years.
Tray

Shannon, MS

#436 Jan 29, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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Because law enforcement officers are treated differently than regular civilians; just as the military and national guard are.
Yet ALL other items police have is named the same for every place and owner of that item. A police car is still a car. A police handgun is still a handgun. A police semi auto rifle is an assault weapon in the hands on a citizen. Even your seven states have different designations of assault weapon. Yet another anti rights lie.

“JESUS WOULD IMPEACH THE GOP!!!”

Since: May 09

Lake Success, N.Y.

#437 Jan 29, 2013
Richard_ wrote:
<quoted text>Actually, I have a right to own AR15's or wouldn't have three of them in my gun vault, ya liar. We also have a right to possess machine guns, silencers, grenade launchers and sawed of shotguns, the right might be taxed through an ATF application process, but it is a right none the less. Fortunately, the 200.00 tax and paperwork keeps the urban hoodlums and hinky people like yourself.
You're so full of shit!
Sickeningly so I may add.
Tray

Shannon, MS

#438 Jan 29, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
<quoted text>
Hmmmmm, and yet the SCOTUS has indeed ruled on run rights issues; most recently in the Heller & McDonald cases. Those rulings just happened to go 5-4 in favor of gun rights; they could have just as easily gone 5-4 against.
Obviously they CAN rule on the 2nd amendment.
No they ruled on states infringing on that right they affirmed the right itself but not the states ability to infringe on that right.

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