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“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

Bristol, CT

#172147 Sep 19, 2013
High gun ownership makes countries less safe, US study finds

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/sep/18/...

http://tinyurl.com/k3mfc88

"Regardless of exact cause and effect, the current study debunks the widely quoted hypothesis that countries with higher gun ownership are safer than those with low gun ownership."

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#172148 Sep 19, 2013
Joe OBiden wrote:
<quoted text>
As if the "middle class" has prospered under Obama? But what is even sadder is that you Libtards throw people bones and they lick your feet for it. How sad.
The middle class has not prospered under Obama, I agree. And why is that, pray tell? How about the middle class paying for GWB's laisser-faire attitude towards big business, the banks, the brokers, the mortgage lenders, the stock brokers, giving them a free ride, then rescuing them and who rescued them? The middle class. It's still rescuing bib business and banks as CEOs, pocket more bonuses which Obama tried to reduce or eliminate but who could not get the Republican-led congress, those business friends, to back him.

Yes, the middle class is not prospering. The rich are prospering, yes, and they will continue to do so, thank you Mr GWB.

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#172149 Sep 19, 2013
wojar wrote:
High gun ownership makes countries less safe, US study finds
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/sep/18/...
http://tinyurl.com/k3mfc88
"Regardless of exact cause and effect, the current study debunks the widely quoted hypothesis that countries with higher gun ownership are safer than those with low gun ownership."
Well, the UN has maintained just that for a long time. But the UN is a communist-led organization that cannot be trusted and which the US should leave.

Now it's a U.S. study. Let's see the gun nut birthers' reaction.
Pdamerica org

West Sayville, NY

#172150 Sep 19, 2013
Scrutiny wrote:
<quoted text>
Ahh... was not arguing with you. Agreed 100%
Just wanted to define "imaginary" in context.
Completely agree with you that our imaginary stock market has and will pay out 'real' wealth to those who are smart enough, lucky enough and know the proper people.
But fractional reserve banking is going to fail 100% of the time.
It is by design and is a mathematical scam of the grandest proportion.
THIS is by far my biggest gripe with the plain ole' ignorance of America.
The FED would have you believe that banking is some complex form of calculus with lots of bells and whistles. It even has it's own terminology.
The fact is it is high school stuff.
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I am going to create for you something only I can create. I am going to loan you 100 of them. But when you pay me back I need 130 of them.
Well, where are you going to get the extra 30? You can't create them and they do not exist.
The only way to possibly make good on your loan is to have more created by the very entity who gave you the loan in the first place.
They will happily create 30 more but you will need to pay back 40. Oh, and every one that they create DEVALUES them all.
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You don't need to be a math wiz to figure out what happens when this is done on the scale of 100s. And it doesn't take a math wiz to know what happens when it occurs on the scale of trillions.
We have gone through this routine so many times our money has been devalued OVER 98%.
The scam has run it's course. It is over. We are slapping band aids on at the moment to delay the inevitable. Even if we are able to pull off some kind of "economic recovery" (which is traditionally accomplished by war here in the U.S.) it is still delaying the inevitable.
None of it will be worth anything. We need to tell the world bank to kiss our collective asses and do it ourselves. Because THAT friends and neighbors... is the American way.
Thanks for the data.

Your arguments are valid and I am in agreement with you except the part ( The scam has run it's course. It is over.)

I heard Greenspan many times saying publicly that Europe does not have the ability like the United States has.

United States can print money to keep us afloat.

P.S. Fractional reserve banking is legal.

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Criticism of fractional reserve banking
http://wiki.mises.org/wiki/Criticism_of_fract...

Fractional reserve banking
http://wiki.mises.org/wiki/Fractional_reserve...
Pdamerica org

West Sayville, NY

#172151 Sep 19, 2013
Obskeptic wrote:
<quoted text>
There is no such thing as the "democratic" party Rouge. They are only the "democrat" party and really could care less about being "democratic". They would by far prefer being dictators, which is the way they get things done. Just look at the Affordable Healthcare Act, or the executive orders signed by the current dictator wannabe.
What's good for the goose (is good for the gander).

Plus Obamacare is a Republican health plan endorsed by Bob Dole, Newt Gingrich, and the Conservative Heritage foundation back in the 1990s. Same is true of Romneycare.

Liberal/Progressives wanted Single Payer Medicare For All or even a Public Option.

Republicans won on this issue even without one Republican voting for it.

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Bush's Mafia Whacks the Republic
http://tinyurl.com/ysovmx June 20, 2007
In years to come, historians may look back on U.S. press coverage of George W. Bush’s presidency and wonder why there was not a single front-page story announcing one of the most monumental events of mankind’s modern era – the death of the American Republic and the elimination of the “unalienable rights” pledged to “posterity” by the Founders.

The historians will, of course, find stories about elements of this extraordinary event – Bush’s denial of habeas corpus rights to a fair trial, his secret prisons, his tolerance of torture, his violation of Fourth Amendment protections against unreasonable searches, his “signing statements” overriding laws, the erosion of constitutional checks and balances.
http://www.consortiumnews.com/2007/062007.htm...
Pdamerica org

West Sayville, NY

#172152 Sep 19, 2013
Obskeptic wrote:
<quoted text>
There is no such thing as the "democratic" party Rouge. They are only the "democrat" party and really could care less about being "democratic". They would by far prefer being dictators, which is the way they get things done. Just look at the Affordable Healthcare Act, or the executive orders signed by the current dictator wannabe.
Bush's Illegal Use of Signing Statements is Impeachment Reason No. 1
http://tinyurl.com/yscclz May 3, 2007
In a Pulitzer Prize-winning article in the Boston Globe, Charlie Savage courageously published details of Bush's outrageous "signing statements" added to new legislation. As you can see from the examples quoted from Savage's story (Boston Globe, April 30, 2007) below, the intention of each statement is to allow an "executive loophole" whereby "the W" can essentially ignore the effect of the legislation. In other words, Bush has been assuming the powers of a dictator, ruling by decree, under our noses.
"Since taking office in 2001, President Bush has issued signing statements on more than 750 new laws, declaring that he has the power to set aside the laws when they conflict with his legal interpretation of the Constitution. The federal government is instructed to follow the statements when it enforces the laws. Here are 10 examples and the dates Bush signed them
http://www.opednews.com/articles/opedne_david...

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ALL Executive Orders
http://tinyurl.com/2mryvo
http://nodis3.gsfc.nasa.gov/eo_list.cfm
Pdamerica org

West Sayville, NY

#172153 Sep 19, 2013
Examples of the president's signing statements
Since taking office in 2001, President Bush has issued signing statements on more than 750 new laws, declaring that he has the power to set aside the laws when they conflict with his legal interpretation of the Constitution. The federal government is instructed to follow the statements when it enforces the laws. Here are 10 examples and the dates Bush signed them:

March 9: Justice Department officials must give reports to Congress by certain dates on how the FBI is using the USA Patriot Act to search homes and secretly seize papers.
Bush's signing statement: The president can order Justice Department officials to withhold any information from Congress if he decides it could impair national security or executive branch operations.

Dec. 30, 2005: US interrogators cannot torture prisoners or otherwise subject them to cruel, inhuman, and degrading treatment.
Bush's signing statement: The president, as commander in chief, can waive the torture ban if he decides that harsh interrogation techniques will assist in preventing terrorist attacks.

Dec. 30: When requested, scientific information ''prepared by government researchers and scientists shall be transmitted [to Congress] uncensored and without delay."
Bush's signing statement: The president can tell researchers to withhold any information from Congress if he decides its disclosure could impair foreign relations, national security, or the workings of the executive branch.

Aug. 8: The Department of Energy, the Nuclear Regulatory Commission and its contractors may not fire or otherwise punish an employee whistle-blower who tells Congress about possible wrongdoing.
Bush's signing statement: The president or his appointees will determine whether employees of the Department of Energy and the Nuclear Regulatory Commission can give information to Congress.

Dec. 23, 2004: Forbids US troops in Colombia from participating in any combat against rebels, except in cases of self-defense. Caps the number of US troops allowed in Colombia at 800.
Bush's signing statement: Only the president, as commander in chief, can place restrictions on the use of US armed forces, so the executive branch will construe the law ''as advisory in nature."

Dec. 17: The new national intelligence director shall recruit and train women and minorities to be spies, analysts, and translators in order to ensure diversity in the intelligence community.
Bush's signing statement: The executive branch shall construe the law in a manner consistent with a constitutional clause guaranteeing ''equal protection" for all.(In 2003, the Bush administration argued against race-conscious affirmative-action programs in a Supreme Court case. The court rejected Bush's view.)

Oct. 29: Defense Department personnel are prohibited from interfering with the ability of military lawyers to give independent legal advice to their commanders.
Bush's signing statement: All military attorneys are bound to follow legal conclusions reached by the administration's lawyers in the Justice Department and the Pentagon when giving advice to their commanders.

Aug. 5: The military cannot add to its files any illegally gathered intelligence, including information obtained about Americans in violation of the Fourth Amendment's protection against unreasonable searches.
Bush's signing statement: Only the president, as commander in chief, can tell the military whether or not it can use any specific piece of intelligence.
Pdamerica org

West Sayville, NY

#172154 Sep 19, 2013
Nov. 6, 2003: US officials in Iraq cannot prevent an inspector general for the Coalition Provisional Authority from carrying out any investigation. The inspector general must tell Congress if officials refuse to cooperate with his inquiries.
Bush's signing statement: The inspector general ''shall refrain" from investigating anything involving sensitive plans, intelligence, national security, or anything already being investigated by the Pentagon. The inspector cannot tell Congress anything if the president decides that disclosing the information would impair foreign relations, national security, or executive branch operations.

Nov. 5, 2002: Creates an Institute of Education Sciences whose director may conduct and publish research ''without the approval of the secretary [of education] or any other office of the department."
Bush's signing statement: The president has the power to control the actions of all executive branch officials, so ''the director of the Institute of Education Sciences shall [be] subject to the supervision and direction of the secretary of education."

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Executive Order: Blocking Property of Certain Persons Who Threaten Stabilization Efforts in Iraq / July 17, 2007 /
Sec. 3. For purposes of this order:
(a) the term "person" means an individual or entity;
(b) the term "entity" means a partnership, association, trust, joint venture, corporation, group, subgroup, or other organization; and
(c) the term "United States person" means any United States citizen, permanent resident alien, entity organized under the laws of the United States or any jurisdiction within the United States (including foreign branches), or any person in the United States.
Sec. 4. I hereby determine that the making of donations of the type specified in section 203(b)(2) of IEEPA (50 U.S.C. 1702(b)(2)) by, to, or for the benefit of, any person whose property and interests in property are blocked pursuant to this order would seriously impair my ability to deal with the national emergency declared in Executive Order 13303 and expanded in Executive Order 13315, and I hereby prohibit such donations as provided by section 1 of this order.
Sec. 5. For those persons whose property and interests in property are blocked pursuant to this order who might have a constitutional presence in the United States, I find that, because of the ability to transfer funds or other assets instantaneously, prior notice to such persons of measures to be taken pursuant to this order would render these measures ineffectual. I therefore determine that for these measures to be effective in addressing the national emergency declared in Executive Order 13303 and expanded in Executive Order 13315, there need be no prior notice of a listing or determination made pursuant to section 1(a) of this order.
http://www.au.af.mil/au/awc/awcgate/crs/rl342...

EXECUTIVE ORDER /
EO 13303 /
Effective Date: May 28, 2003 http://tinyurl.com/ca3se

I, GEORGE W. BUSH, President of the United States of America, find that the threat of attachment or other judicial process against the Development Fund for Iraq, Iraqi petroleum and petroleum products, and interests therein, and proceeds, obligations, or any financial instruments of any nature whatsoever arising from or related to the sale or marketing thereof, and interests therein, obstructs the orderly reconstruction of Iraq, the restoration and maintenance of peace and security in the country, and the development of political, administrative, and economic institutions in Iraq. This situation constitutes an unusual and extraordinary threat to the national security and foreign policy of the United States and I hereby declare a national emergency to deal with that threat.
http://nodis3.gsfc.nasa.gov/displayEO.cfm...
Pdamerica org

West Sayville, NY

#172155 Sep 19, 2013
Frank wrote:
<quoted text>McKinley was the greatest. His accomplishments prove the truth and he was the genuine real thing.
You must be mistaken.

Everyone knows George W. Bush and Hoover were the very best presidents.

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#172156 Sep 19, 2013
Pdamerica org wrote:
Nov. 6, 2003: US officials in Iraq cannot prevent an inspector general for the Coalition Provisional Authority from carrying out any investigation. The inspector general must tell Congress if officials refuse to cooperate with his inquiries.
Bush's signing statement: The inspector general ''shall refrain" from investigating anything involving sensitive plans, intelligence, national security, or anything already being investigated by the Pentagon. The inspector cannot tell Congress anything if the president decides that disclosing the information would impair foreign relations, national security, or executive branch operations.
Nov. 5, 2002: Creates an Institute of Education Sciences whose director may conduct and publish research ''without the approval of the secretary [of education] or any other office of the department."
Bush's signing statement: The president has the power to control the actions of all executive branch officials, so ''the director of the Institute of Education Sciences shall [be] subject to the supervision and direction of the secretary of education."
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Executive Order: Blocking Property of Certain Persons Who Threaten Stabilization Efforts in Iraq / July 17, 2007 /
Sec. 3. For purposes of this order:
(a) the term "person" means an individual or entity;
(b) the term "entity" means a partnership, association, trust, joint venture, corporation, group, subgroup, or other organization; and
(c) the term "United States person" means any United States citizen, permanent resident alien, entity organized under the laws of the United States or any jurisdiction within the United States (including foreign branches), or any person in the United States.
Sec. 4. I hereby determine that the making of donations of the type specified in section 203(b)(2) of IEEPA (50 U.S.C. 1702(b)(2)) by, to, or for the benefit of, any person whose property and interests in property are blocked pursuant to this order would seriously impair my ability to deal with the national emergency declared in Executive Order 13303 and expanded in Executive Order 13315, and I hereby prohibit such donations as provided by section 1 of this order.
Sec. 5. For those persons whose property and interests in property are blocked pursuant to this order who might have a constitutional presence in the United States, I find that, because of the ability to transfer funds or other assets instantaneously, prior notice to such persons of measures to be taken pursuant to this order would render these measures ineffectual. I therefore determine that for these measures to be effective in addressing the national emergency declared in Executive Order 13303 and expanded in Executive Order 13315, there need be no prior notice of a listing or determination made pursuant to section 1(a) of this order.
http://www.au.af.mil/au/awc/awcgate/crs/rl342...
EXECUTIVE ORDER /
EO 13303 /
Effective Date: May 28, 2003 http://tinyurl.com/ca3se
I, GEORGE W. BUSH, President of the United States of America, find that the threat of attachment or other judicial process against the Development Fund for Iraq, Iraqi petroleum and petroleum products, and interests therein, and proceeds, obligations, or any financial instruments of any nature whatsoever arising from or related to the sale or marketing thereof, and interests therein, obstructs the orderly reconstruction of Iraq, the restoration and maintenance of peace and security in the country, and the development of political, administrative, http://nodis3.gsfc.nasa.gov/displayEO.cfm...
Any time now LRS will be telling you you're not welcome in the U.S. and if you don't like it, leave it. He'll try to, or guess, your origins (if you're of Polish descent, he will call you a Pollack) and order you back there forthwith.

I don't agree with everything you post, but your research and motivation are impeccable. Sorry, had to chop off your last sentence, ran out of room.
Truth Detector

Louisville, KY

#172157 Sep 19, 2013
I'm back, from the dead, apparently.
1 post removed
Truth Detector

Louisville, KY

#172159 Sep 19, 2013
M K Ultra, Mind Control, Real?, You betcha??

“zero nuclear weapons”

Since: Sep 08

Perryville

#172160 Sep 19, 2013
WelbyMD wrote:
<quoted text>Once homosexual Barry Soetoro is no longer upright and breathing.
KENYAN-BORN OBAMA is the gremlin on the wing of our nation.
The REAL Birth Certificate, country of birth, various citizenships, assortment of fake names and bogus SSNs are irrelevant. The simple fact Obama's alleged father was never American means BHO could NEVER legally run for President much less Dogcatcher. We have been duped by this antichrist and the Masons. Jesus Christ is Lord of all forever. John 3:16 Ephesians 6:12
Get this though your unstable mind that you got. President Obama was born on August 4, 1961,[1] at Kapi&#699;olani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital (now Kapi&#699;olani Medical Center for Women and Children)

His birth was announced in The Honolulu Advertiser and the Honolulu Star-Bulletin, with his parents' address listed as 6085 Kalanianaole Highway in the Kuliouou.
Here is how he can be President.

In the United States there are two established legal principles upon which individuals are said to acquire citizenship at birth: jus sanguinus ("right of blood"), meaning citizenship conferred by being born to parents who are U.S. citizens, and jus soli ("right of soil"), meaning citizenship conferred by being born on U.S. soil. Per the Fourteenth Amendment, which states that "All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside," all individuals born on U.S. soil are considered "birthright citizens" under the law regardless of the citizenship status of their parents.
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#172161 Sep 19, 2013
Learn to Read wrote:
<quoted text>
More fables Romper? You really need a new act
Fables? I'm not kidding.
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#172162 Sep 19, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
" you most definitely need a bullet in your head. ", you wrote. Then, up there, lookee up, you write : "I knew you'd come up with another death threat!"
Well, gee whiz, I wonder where and how I came up with that one. Bring on the rubber room. Fast. FBI check !! LMAO (LRS tm reg'd). Were that true, you wouldn't have a gun, not even a pea shooter.
Hey Dip, life is full of unfortunate stories. You just happen to be one of them and you're most deserving of it! What size "projectile" do you prefer? LMAO! Congratulations Path, you are the first "certified" dumbazzbastard! Oh, I'm about to add a 10mm to go with my 9mm. It's a nasty lil thing! It's been described as a .357 on steroids. HEE HEE HEE The FBI likes me, Path. LMAO!
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#172163 Sep 19, 2013
wojar wrote:
High gun ownership makes countries less safe, US study finds
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/sep/18/...
http://tinyurl.com/k3mfc88
"Regardless of exact cause and effect, the current study debunks the widely quoted hypothesis that countries with higher gun ownership are safer than those with low gun ownership."
Shall I post one that says the opposite? LMAO!
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#172164 Sep 19, 2013
What does Obama call illegal aliens?

Undocumented Democrats!
Forum

Carlsbad, NM

#172165 Sep 19, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
<quoted text>
Immigrants (true immigrants) came to this country because they wanted a different way of life. They came "wanting" to be Americans and they were willing to do what was necessary to achieve that. That type of immigration is long gone. Today, they come to mooch and guess who pays the bill? Every real American! I'm tired of paying for your lazy azzes. Work harder? LMAO! Most couldn't tell you what "work ethic" means! Most are uneducated idiots who have no right being here in the first place. Let's see, I don't tote a gun, I do drive a pickup, I don't drink, rarely watch NFL but I do vote Republican and I'd be glad to personally show your azz to the border. You'd do much better in life if you shaved your butt and started walking on your hands! Fruitcake!
Why would you leave your own home to live here on pennies?
The government will help you but it isn't much.
They come here to hide. They have money.
The German Army at Fort Bliss say they are going home after
all the years they have been there. What are they doing there?
Voting Republican makes you educated?
When other people bother us there is something wrong.
It isn't our business. Take him to the border if he needs
a ride. The Germans scare us more than the Mexicans.
Everybody wants to rule the world.


Tm Clmns

Victoria, Canada

#172166 Sep 19, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
What does Obama call illegal aliens?
Undocumented Democrats!
They are Republican slaves... working for peanuts in the farm fields....

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#172167 Sep 19, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
What does Obama call illegal aliens?
Undocumented Democrats!
And what does LRS's family call him ?

"The one you hide" when company visits.

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