BARACK OBAMA BIRTH CERTIFICATE: Suit ...

BARACK OBAMA BIRTH CERTIFICATE: Suit contesting Obama's citizen...

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The U.S. Supreme Court will consider Friday whether to take up a lawsuit challenging President-elect Barack Obama 's U.S. citizenship, a continuation of a New Jersey case embraced by some opponents of Obama's ...

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Justice Dale

United States

#117244 Oct 14, 2012
Grand Birther wrote:
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Wow, Justice Derp, you nailed it on the head this time.
It is now totally clear that you cannot read beyond a fourth grade level.
There is no mention of parentage; no mention of jus sanguinis; no mention of the fantasy two citizen parent rule.
It simply states that those born in the US are citizen. The passage does say that one must be under the jurisdiction of the US. That has been narrowed to exclude those born to an invading force and to ambassador parents.
We know that aliens are under the jurisdiction of the US and have been for nearly 150 years per the highest court in the land.
Sorry, but you cannot add words to the Court's opinion to suit your fantasy. You're welcome to have the fantasy, but you see how far it's getting you.
Trash!
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Justice Dale

United States

#117246 Oct 14, 2012
Grand Birther wrote:
The foregoing considerations and authorities irresistibly lead us to these conclusions: HN30 The Fourteenth Amendment affirms the ancient and fundamental rule of citizenship by birth within the territory, in the allegiance and under the protection of the country, including all children here born of resident aliens, with the exceptions or qualifications (as old as the rule itself) of children of foreign sovereigns or their ministers, or born on foreign public ships, or of enemies within and during a hostile occupation of part of our territory, and with the single additional exception of children of members of the Indian tribes owing direct allegiance to their several tribes.
Damn! Are you finished?

Mr. HOWARD: I now move to take up House joint resolution No. 127.

The motion was agreed to; and the Senate, as in Committee of the Whole, resumed the consideration of the joint resolution (H.R. No. 127) proposing an amendment to the Constitution of the United States.

The first amendment is to section one, declaring that all "persons born in the United States and Subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the States wherein they reside. I do not propose to say anything on that subject except that the question of citizenship has been fully discussed in this body as not to need any further elucidation, in my opinion. This amendment which I have offered is simply declaratory of what I regard as the law of the land already, that every person born within the limits of the United States, and subject to their jurisdiction, is by virtue of natural law and national law a citizen of the United States. This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers accredited to the Government of the United States, but will include every other class of persons. It settles the great question of citizenship and removes all doubt as to what persons are or are not citizens of the United States. This has long been a great desideratum in the jurisprudence and legislation of this country.

Punk-ass Obama is an aliens!
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Jacques Ottawa

Toronto, Canada

#117249 Oct 14, 2012
Siouxweety wrote:
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All you've posted on here is insults, crap and nothing else.
None of you can even hold a conversation with anyone not on your side without resorting to insults.
You accuse Wojar of using insulting? You? For example,you asked me a lot of questions on our health care and illegal aliens. I answered both in detail and in record time, did not insult, did not name-call, did not use profanity, not even now, but you did all of those things since then - up to, for some weird and strange sexual perversion of yours, put me in bed with Johannes. Go figure, and YOU throw the "insult" thing at wojar. Does your wife know about your profane conduct?
Jacques Ottawa

Toronto, Canada

#117250 Oct 14, 2012
LRS wrote:
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Funny, I've read quite a few posts in a Canadian forum where they say the uni healthcare sux. Leave it to none other than you to differ.
Ask them if they want to get rid of it.

Oh, on Canadian forums, eh? How come you're meddling in our affairs now? Like you accused me of meddling in yours. BTW, I'm sure you go there strictly as a voyeur as you know zilch, nothing about Canada, even less than you know of your own country.
Johannes

Yucaipa, CA

#117251 Oct 14, 2012
Siouxweety wrote:
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And did you cry like the little wilted pansy that you are?
Now, now Anita,
All you've posted on here is insults, crap and nothing else.
None of you can even hold a conversation with anyone not on your side without resorting to insults.
Johannes

Yucaipa, CA

#117252 Oct 14, 2012
America Got Stupid wrote:
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Everyone on this thread knows that you have said that Obama is a NBC who was born in Hawaii.
1) Obama is not a NBC.
2) Obama has not proven he was born in this country.
3) Obama has a fraudulent birth certificate, SSN, and Selective Service card, as well as many citizenship's and aliases.
You are a pathetic LIAR!
You will not find a copy of Obama's long form birth certificate with a raised embossed State seal issued by Hawaii DOH.
This is not a fantasy SHEEPLE, this is the truth!
Yea, whatever

Since you were unable to find any comment by me that supports your wild claims, that leave YOU the LIAR.

I won't argue with an idiot like you.
Johannes

Yucaipa, CA

#117253 Oct 14, 2012
Jacques Ottawa wrote:
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You accuse Wojar of using insulting? You? For example,you asked me a lot of questions on our health care and illegal aliens. I answered both in detail and in record time, did not insult, did not name-call, did not use profanity, not even now, but you did all of those things since then - up to, for some weird and strange sexual perversion of yours, put me in bed with Johannes. Go figure, and YOU throw the "insult" thing at wojar. Does your wife know about your profane conduct?
That's the way Anita is.

She flips out rather quickly....usually with some sexual remark. She is obvioulsy not a very stable person.
Jacques Ottawa

Toronto, Canada

#117254 Oct 14, 2012
Rush wrote:
How are the Obama buttsurfers doing tonight? 23 days and a wakeup.... LOL
Oh, it's Rush. Good evening, world traveller and super computer systems trouble-shooter and fixer. Tell us, which plane, which airline are you flying tonight? Flying out of closed-on-account-of-snow Denver? Singapore - Miami non-stop in 8 hours? Quaffing a Foster beer with your outback friends in Australia in between rounds of informatics re-organisation? Or travelling to 6 states in 24 hours like you did a few months back, remember? How's that computer system you rebuilt for all of California's state govt working?

Ahhh, rush, how we miss you. In your place, we have the likes of LRS or president Starky. They're boring, nothing of substance, not like you and your exciting life that makes Indiana Jones look positively boring.

Welcome back. Got a good supply of cheetos and pork rinds to last you the night? Don't forget the grits. Oops, it's morning already, I can only imaguine your undershirt smeared with those rinds and grits and cheap beer. UGH. Make us laugh again, PLEASE.

Since: Oct 12

Cobourg, Canada

#117255 Oct 14, 2012
you talk about documents!!!!
I am into making fake document of all kinds. If you need to get your contact me [email protected] and you will be surprised at what i can do you. be it fake birth certificates, fake passports, fake ID cards, fake drivers license, fake diplomas etc
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Johannes

Yucaipa, CA

#117257 Oct 14, 2012
America Got Stupid wrote:
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It is not whatever, MORON!
It is what it is.
Everyone on this thread knows that you have said that Obama is a NBC who was born in Hawaii.
1) Obama is not a NBC.
2) Obama has not proven he was born in this country.
3) Obama has a fraudulent birth certificate, SSN, and Selective Service card, as well as many citizenship's and aliases.
You are a pathetic LIAR!
You will not find a copy of Obama's long form birth certificate with a raised embossed State seal issued by Hawaii DOH.
One does not exist.
Well, if everybody knows what I've said in supporting Obama, it shouldn't be that difficult for you to find a comment and prove your points.

I doubt that you will be able to do so and that will make you the liar......which is something we already know.

WHATEVER MORON
Johannes

Yucaipa, CA

#117258 Oct 14, 2012
Now that we have the EXACT NUMERICAL ADDRESS all birthers should crawl back into their holes.
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Since: Oct 12

Cobourg, Canada

#117263 Oct 14, 2012
America Got Stupid wrote:
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1) Obama is not a NBC.
2) Obama has not proven he was born in this country.
3) Obama has a fraudulent birth certificate, SSN, and Selective Service card, as well as many citizenship's and aliases.
You are a pathetic LIAR!
You will not find a copy of Obama's long form birth certificate with a raised embossed State seal issued by Hawaii DOH.
One does not exist.
i can get you a fake BC of Obama of any nationality. if you need to get one let me know
Frank

Spokane, WA

#117264 Oct 14, 2012
Grand Birther wrote:
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Fwank, this shows that you've never once read the Court's opinion in Ark.
That's what it's all about.
His parents were immigrants from China. He left the United States to return to China. When he wanted to return to the United States,he was stopped and told that he was a Chinese citizen. The high court was able to allow him to remain in the Untied States as a citizen. Many scholars over the years have debated that the high court was wrong,but no one can use this as precedent. Barack Obama father was not an immigrant,he was never a citizen of the United States,not even for one day. Barack Obama was the son of a foreigner.
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LRS

Shreveport, LA

#117268 Oct 14, 2012
Jacques Ottawa wrote:
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Ask them if they want to get rid of it.
Oh, on Canadian forums, eh? How come you're meddling in our affairs now? Like you accused me of meddling in yours. BTW, I'm sure you go there strictly as a voyeur as you know zilch, nothing about Canada, even less than you know of your own country.
It doesn't bother you does it? How come your opinion seems to differ from many in Canada? LMAO pigeon
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LRS

Shreveport, LA

#117270 Oct 14, 2012
Johannes wrote:
Now that we have the EXACT NUMERICAL ADDRESS all birthers should crawl back into their holes.
I live in the last house on the left. Located on Deadman's trail. Drop on by if you dare! HaHaHaHaHa hang it up Pops.
LRS

Shreveport, LA

#117271 Oct 14, 2012
Grand Birther wrote:
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Would that be a deviation from recent history?
California voted for a republican ever election between the 50s and 80s.
DUH
Barfer Girks! Waz happnin' cuz? LOL

“On Deck”

Since: Aug 08

French Polynesia

#117272 Oct 14, 2012
Jihad Watch

"Eqypt's Muslim Brotherhood is the most dangerous anti-Semetic organization in the world today"
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Johannes

Yucaipa, CA

#117275 Oct 14, 2012
LRS wrote:
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I live in the last house on the left. Located on Deadman's trail. Drop on by if you dare! HaHaHaHaHa hang it up Pops.
I see it now.

It's the pink single wide with the three wrecked pick-ups in the front.
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ehancock

Dedham, MA

#117277 Oct 14, 2012
America Got Stupid wrote:
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You mean you have found a copy of Obama's long form birth certificate with a raised embossed State seal issued by Hawaii DOH???
We know better because they are all fake birth certificates.
Obama has shown both his short form birth certificate (which is sufficient, it is the legal birth certificate of Hawaii, used by thousands of people to get their US passports every year), and his long form birth certificate. AND the officials in Hawaii of both parties in Hawaii have repeatedly confirmed that they sent it to him and that ALL the facts on it are correct, and this is further confirmed by the public Index Data file and by the birth notices sent to the newspapers of Hawaii by the DOH of Hawaii in 1961.

The fact that the raised seal does not show up on a computer scan of the document put into PDF does not disprove:(1) the short form birth certificate; (2) the long form birth certificate and the confirmation of the officials and the Index Data; (3) the birth notices sent to the newspapers by the DOH of Hawaii in 1961; (4) the fact that Hawaii is thousands of miles from any foreign country----and the notion that Obama's mother would have traveled thousands of miles (much less tens of thousands to Kenya, which has said, BTW, that Obama was not born there) ALONE, since WND has proved with FOI Act request that Obama senior stayed in Hawaii throughout 1961)----is absurd.

Once again, the fact that a scan put into PDF does not pick up the raised seal does not disprove the facts above.
LRS

Shreveport, LA

#117278 Oct 14, 2012
Johannes wrote:
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I see it now.
It's the pink single wide with the three wrecked pick-ups in the front.
Pops, you're ate up with the DA.

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