BARACK OBAMA BIRTH CERTIFICATE: Suit contesting Obama's citizen...

There are 20 comments on the Jan 8, 2009, Chicago Tribune story titled BARACK OBAMA BIRTH CERTIFICATE: Suit contesting Obama's citizen.... In it, Chicago Tribune reports that:

The U.S. Supreme Court will consider Friday whether to take up a lawsuit challenging President-elect Barack Obama 's U.S. citizenship, a continuation of a New Jersey case embraced by some opponents of Obama's ...

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“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

Bristol, CT

#115878 Oct 9, 2012
Dale wrote:
<quoted text>You can't be subject to the jurisdiction of the Constitution, if you are not a member of the body politic (citizen).
Says the birfoon who thinks aliens are subject to the constitutions of the various states though not members of the body politic of the respective states.

UR an IDIOT.

BTW, one need not be a member of the body politic to violate the laws of a country and be punished -- under the jurisdiction thereof.

UR an IDIOT.

Was Abdulmutallab a member of the body politic?

MORON.
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
Wowee Zowee! Aliens are not citizens!(Visiting or otherwise.)
The body politic is comprised of the members of a nation!
Wowee Zowee! That's news?
But visiting aliens are under the jurisdiction of the US, and if they violate the law they will get their butts canned.
Grow up, MORON.
Dale

Wichita, KS

#115879 Oct 9, 2012
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
Wowee Zowee! Visiting aliens are not members of the body politic!
That's news?
Hey, BirfoonBoy, visiting aliens are not members of the body politic of the various states either. But BirfoonBoy thinks the states have jurisdiction over aliens nevertheless.
UR an IDIOT!
Grow up!
That's spelled i-d-i-o-t.
<quoted text>
Idiot! It doesn't have hyphens in it! Where did you go to skool?

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

Bristol, CT

#115880 Oct 9, 2012
Dale wrote:
<quoted text>They cannot run for office BECAUSE they are not under the jurisdiction of our sacred Constitution. Its prohibitions would not apply to them if they were subject to it.
Insane on its face.
American Lady

Danville, KY

#115881 Oct 9, 2012
Mainstream media is threatening our country's future

You know, when I first started in politics – and for a long time before that – everyone on both sides, Democrats and Republicans, despised the press commonly, because they were SOBs to everybody. Which is exactly what they should be. They were unrelenting. Whatever the biases were, they were essentially equal-opportunity people.
That changed in 1980.

...

But the overwhelming bias has become very real and very dangerous. We have a First Amendment for one reason. We have a First Amendment not because the Founding Fathers liked the press—they hated the press—but they believed, as [Thomas] Jefferson said, that in order to have a free country, in order to be a free people, we needed a free press. That was the job—so there was an implicit bargain in the First Amendment, the press being the only institution, at that time, which was in our process of which there was no checks and balances.

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2012/09/29/mai...

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

Bristol, CT

#115882 Oct 9, 2012
Dale wrote:
<quoted text>Maybe not to you, it is there for all to read, as to the meaning of the Citizenship Clause, and was ruled inadmissible by the Fuller Kangaroo court.
Colloquy has never been held to be controlling. BirfoonBoy seems to think that the USSC should have made a special birfoon exception.

Get real, loser.
Terri Tanna wrote:
<quoted text>
Please keep repeating Mr. Howard's colloquy until you are blue in the face. It means NOTHING at law.
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“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

Bristol, CT

#115884 Oct 9, 2012
Justice Dale wrote:
<quoted text>If you will remember, the states have not had the jurisdiction of making citizens since Apr 9 of 1866.
Wowee Zowee!

So effing what?

Does the birfoon think that aliens in the US were subject to US law while in the US before Apr 9 of 1866, but not after Apr 9 of 1866?

What's in your Kool-Aid? MORON.
Grand Birther

Oregon, OH

#115885 Oct 9, 2012
American Lady wrote:
Mainstream media is threatening our country's future
You know, when I first started in politics – and for a long time before that – everyone on both sides, Democrats and Republicans, despised the press commonly, because they were SOBs to everybody. Which is exactly what they should be. They were unrelenting. Whatever the biases were, they were essentially equal-opportunity people.
That changed in 1980.
...
But the overwhelming bias has become very real and very dangerous. We have a First Amendment for one reason. We have a First Amendment not because the Founding Fathers liked the press—they hated the press—but they believed, as [Thomas] Jefferson said, that in order to have a free country, in order to be a free people, we needed a free press. That was the job—so there was an implicit bargain in the First Amendment, the press being the only institution, at that time, which was in our process of which there was no checks and balances.
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2012/09/29/mai...
Unamerican Lunch Lady, by "mainstream media" are you perhaps referring to Fox News?

It is a widely known fact that Fox News is THE leader of all news networks in terms of viewership.

What could be more mainstream than that?
Dale

Wichita, KS

#115886 Oct 9, 2012
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
Says the birfoon who thinks aliens are subject to the constitutions of the various states though not members of the body politic of the respective states.
UR an IDIOT.
BTW, one need not be a member of the body politic to violate the laws of a country and be punished -- under the jurisdiction thereof.
UR an IDIOT.
Was Abdulmutallab a member of the body politic?
MORON.
<quoted text>
by International Law, we can prosecute anyone that does harm to the US.
Grand Birther

Oregon, OH

#115887 Oct 9, 2012
LOL, no wonder birfoons like Justice Derp fail miserably in court -- they get laughed off Topix because their silly fantasies are so convoluted.

Sad.
Dale

Wichita, KS

#115888 Oct 9, 2012
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
Wowee Zowee!
So effing what?
Does the birfoon think that aliens in the US were subject to US law while in the US before Apr 9 of 1866, but not after Apr 9 of 1866?
What's in your Kool-Aid? MORON.
just as it is now, they are subject to the jurisdiction of state laws, not the Constitution, persons do not become citizens unless they are subject to the jurisdiction of the US Constitution. After all the 14th is in the Constitution.

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

Bristol, CT

#115889 Oct 9, 2012
Dale wrote:
<quoted text>by International Law, we can prosecute anyone that does harm to the US.
Huh? We can't legally, in court, do shit against Mohammad Omar because he is beyond our jurisdiction.

MORON.

BTW, this has nothing to do with your fantasy that aliens in the US are not under US jurisdiction.

Grow up!
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
Says the birfoon who thinks aliens are subject to the constitutions of the various states though not members of the body politic of the respective states.
UR an IDIOT.
BTW, one need not be a member of the body politic to violate the laws of a country and be punished -- under the jurisdiction thereof.
UR an IDIOT.
Was Abdulmutallab a member of the body politic?
MORON.

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

Bristol, CT

#115890 Oct 9, 2012
Dale wrote:
<quoted text>just as it is now, they are subject to the jurisdiction of state laws, not the Constitution, persons do not become citizens unless they are subject to the jurisdiction of the US Constitution. After all the 14th is in the Constitution.
Hee hee hee.

They are subject to state laws but not federal laws?

Are not state laws under state constitutions?

What's in your Kool-Aid?

UR an idiot.

State laws are under state constitution, federal laws are under federal constitution.

UR a MORON.

Bozo: "persons do not become citizens unless they are subject to the jurisdiction of the US Constitution"

Sorry, loser, but they do not become citizens unless they are BORN OR NATURALIZED subject to the jurisdiction thereof. Got a clue? Living in the US under the jurisdiction thereof, without being born or naturalized under the jurisdiction, does not make one a citizen.

What's your problem? Can't you read?

Did you ever get past 8th grade?
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
Wowee Zowee!
So effing what?
Does the birfoon think that aliens in the US were subject to US law while in the US before Apr 9 of 1866, but not after Apr 9 of 1866?
What's in your Kool-Aid? MORON.

“Time to change the Boss”

Since: Oct 12

Location hidden

#115891 Oct 9, 2012
Siouxweety wrote:
<quoted text>
I wonder why he keeps insisting I am a man.
It's probably because liberals have turned women into men and men have adopted the feminine stance.
It's fun to see them grasping at straws and spew hatred like cornered rats.
Worst mass case of Gender Identity Crisis I have ever seen. lol

“Time to change the Boss”

Since: Oct 12

Location hidden

#115892 Oct 9, 2012
BEWARE!!!! Far Left are starting a new movement! It's called OSS.......... yep you got it! Occupy Sesame Street! LMAO!!!!!!!!

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

Bristol, CT

#115893 Oct 9, 2012
Dale wrote:
<quoted text>just as it is now, they are subject to the jurisdiction of state laws, not the Constitution, persons do not become citizens unless they are subject to the jurisdiction of the US Constitution. After all the 14th is in the Constitution.
Hee hee hee!

BirfoonBoy: "The US Constitution was created for "We the People."

Hey, BirfoonBoy, The Constitution of Kansas reads "We, the people of Kansas".

Dolt.
LRS

Shreveport, LA

#115894 Oct 9, 2012
Grand Birther wrote:
I wonder what LRS's take from Social Security works out to per day.
If he puts in his 16 hours on Topix daily and gets paid for doing nothing, he must derive some satisfaction knowing he can babble and we still cut a cheque for him.
Sad.
Not one red cent. You must not have been paying attention. This has been answered already.
LRS

Shreveport, LA

#115895 Oct 9, 2012
Jacques Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
LRS. You're regressing instead of progressing ! Why? I just mentioned "redeeming values" to ex-justice Dale. And you go and repeat it, almost word for word. Do you think this elevates you ---wait,--- you're right to repeat it, it does elevate you in birthers' eyes, your rating is up and, surprise, your next post will get the highest note.
The say imitatiion is the sincerest form of flattery. In this case, why don't I feel flattered?
Nonetheless, and to anyone with a 95+ IQ, you definitely do not measure up.
Just stating the facts there refugeeboi.

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

Bristol, CT

#115896 Oct 9, 2012
Dale wrote:
<quoted text>just as it is now, they are subject to the jurisdiction of state laws, not the Constitution, persons do not become citizens unless they are subject to the jurisdiction of the US Constitution. After all the 14th is in the Constitution.
Hee hee hee!

They are not subject to federal laws and regulations? But they are subject to state laws? RU taking your meds?

That's right, birfoonboy, persons cannot become citizens unless they are subject to the jurisdiction of the US constitution. And they can remain aliens though subject to the laws of the United States and the states wherein they may be located at any given moment.

You have a psychiatric problem. Because one must be subject to the jurisdiction of the US in order to become a citizen does not mean one must be a citizen in order to be under the jurisdiction of the US.

Please take your meds.

To be human one must be a mammal. In order to be a mammal, one need not be human.

UR an idiot.
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
Wowee Zowee!
So effing what?
Does the birfoon think that aliens in the US were subject to US law while in the US before Apr 9 of 1866, but not after Apr 9 of 1866?
What's in your Kool-Aid? MORON.
LRS

Shreveport, LA

#115897 Oct 9, 2012
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
Wowee Zowee! Aliens are not citizens!(Visiting or otherwise.)
The body politic is comprised of the members of a nation!
Wowee Zowee! That's news?
But visiting aliens are under the jurisdiction of the US, and if they violate the law they will get their butts canned.
Grow up, MORON.
<quoted text>
Meth Chef, how long are you going to play this game of semantics? Bio Chemist...LMAO!!!
Grand Birther

Oregon, OH

#115898 Oct 9, 2012
LRS wrote:
<quoted text>
Not one red cent. You must not have been paying attention. This has been answered already.
Birfer, do you get direct deposit for your disability cheques, or do you wheel yourself to the bank?

I bet you're too busy posting here to be bothered with snail mail and cheques.

It's direct deposit for LRS!

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