BARACK OBAMA BIRTH CERTIFICATE: Suit ...

BARACK OBAMA BIRTH CERTIFICATE: Suit contesting Obama's citizen...

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The U.S. Supreme Court will consider Friday whether to take up a lawsuit challenging President-elect Barack Obama 's U.S. citizenship, a continuation of a New Jersey case embraced by some opponents of Obama's ...

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Just Sayin

Toledo, OH

#89236 Jul 5, 2012
Ellen wrote:
<quoted text>
Millions of people have errors in their Social Security files.
May have errors in their files but not duplicate Social Security Numbers except for identity theft.

It must suck to be an Obama TROLL.
2 posts removed
Just Sayin

Toledo, OH

#89239 Jul 5, 2012
Ohio private investigator Susan Daniels has seen to that. On Monday, July 2, she filed suit in Geauga County (Ohio) Common Pleas Court demanding that Jon Husted, Ohio secretary of state, remove Obama’s name from the ballot until Obama can prove the validity of his Social Security Number.

http://www.wnd.com/2012/07/obamas-social-secu...
Just Sayin

Toledo, OH

#89240 Jul 5, 2012
Daniels, who has vetted thousands of Social Security Numbers for numerous other clients, has done her homework. In her filing, she thoroughly documents her contention “that Barack Obama has repeatedly, consistently, and with intent misrepresented himself by using a fraudulently obtained Social Security Number.”

To acquire appropriate standing in court, Daniels has gone to the trouble of establishing herself as a valid write-in candidate for president. Before she is through, this 70-something mother of seven, who has been a licensed Ohio PI since 1995, may cause Obama more trouble than the Romney campaign.

Daniels started her investigation in August 2009. Given her profession, she has been able to access a variety of proprietary databases. What she learned without much trouble is that Obama has been using a Social Security Number with the prefix “042&#8243; since 1986.

As she discovered, the “042&#8243; number is reserved for the exclusive use of individuals who register in Connecticut. When she ran 10 sequential numbers before and after Obama’s, all returned with the documentation “issued 1977-1979 in CT.”

When Daniels ran the numbers immediately flanking Obama’s, she came to the firm conviction that Obama’s number was issued in March 1977 in Connecticut.

By all accounts, as Daniels thoroughly documents, Obama was then a 15-year-old living in Hawaii. There is no record of him even visiting Connecticut in or near this time frame.

To have gotten a Social Security card at this time Obama would have had to show up for a “mandatory in-person interview.” This could not have taken place in Connecticut. Obama’s sister, Maya, by contrast, uses a number appropriate for a Hawaiian resident.

Daniels checked other databases as well to validate her findings, including the Massachusetts Department of Motor Vehicles and the IRS. Yes, Obama used the 042 number to get a driver’s license when at Harvard and as recently as on his 2009 income tax return.

In her research, Daniels kept coming across what she calls a “marked anomaly,” one she had never seen before – multiple birthdates listed for the same person. The 08/04/1961 and 04/08/1961 variation made sense, but the frequent appearance of the year “1890&#8243; did not.

The ample evidence Daniels gathered led her to believe that the 042 number Obama has been using “had previously been issued to another person,” one who lived in Connecticut between 1977 and 1979 and who was born in 1890.

This assertion can be verified. By law, the Social Security Administration will have kept on microfilm a copy of the original SS-5 application attached to a particular Social Security Number. Daniels, however, does not have access to that microfilm.

For this reason, Daniels has filed suit.“Defendant Husted, through this filing,” she argues,“has been made aware that the Democratic Candidate has been using a fraudulent Social Security Number, which would render Barack Obama ineligible under both the Ohio and U.S. Constitutions.”

Daniels asks the court, among other things, to issue an injunction against Obama’s name appearing on ballot until it is determined that he is using a proper Social Security Number.

Given the response of courts elsewhere, it is unlikely that Daniels will find satisfaction in Geauga County or from the Republican secretary of state.

What Daniels has done, however, is establish a paper trail so indisputably legitimate that even the most squeamish of conservative media will have a hard time finding fault.

The major media, of course, will not bother to look. It is up to our Beltway brethren to step up and ask some very basic questions of the president that they, through their timidity in 2008, helped elect.
http://www.wnd.com/2012/07/obamas-social-secu...

“On Deck”

Since: Aug 08

French Polynesia

#89241 Jul 5, 2012
Hey Wojar,
It looks like I am right, again. Per usual.

Domicile. A person's legal home. That place where a msn has his true, fixed, and permanent home and principle establishment, and to which whenever he is absent he has the intention of returning. Generally, physical presence within a state and the intention to make it one's home are the requisites of establishing a "domicile" therein. The permanent residence of a person or the place to which he inteds to return even though he may actually reside somewhere else. A person may have more than one residence but only one domicile.....&c.&c.

Blacks Law Dictionary
Ellen

Dedham, MA

#89242 Jul 5, 2012
Just Sayin wrote:
Daniels, who has vetted thousands of Social Security Numbers for numerous other clients, has done her homework. In her filing, she thoroughly documents her contention “that Barack Obama has repeatedly, consistently, and with intent misrepresented himself by using a fraudulently obtained Social Security Number.”....There is no record of him even visiting Connecticut in or near this time frame.
To have gotten a Social Security card at this time Obama would have had to show up for a “mandatory in-person interview.” This could not have taken place in Connecticut. Obama’s sister, Maya, by contrast, uses a number appropriate for a Hawaiian resident.
Daniels checked other databases as well to validate her findings, including the Massachusetts Department of Motor Vehicles and the IRS. Yes, Obama used the 042 number to get a driver’s license when at Harvard and as recently as on his 2009 income tax return.
In her research, Daniels kept coming across what she calls a “marked anomaly,” one she had never seen before – multiple birthdates listed for the same person. The 08/04/1961 and 04/08/1961 variation made sense, but the frequent appearance of the year “1890&#8243; did not.
The ample evidence Daniels gathered led her to believe that the 042 number Obama has been using “had previously been issued to another person,” one who lived in Connecticut between 1977 and 1979 and who was born in 1890.
This assertion can be verified. By law, the Social Security Administration will have kept on microfilm a copy of the original SS-5 application attached to a particular Social Security Number. Daniels, however, does not have access to that microfilm.
For this reason, Daniels has filed suit.“Defendant Husted, through this filing,” she argues,“has been made aware that the Democratic Candidate has been using a fraudulent Social Security Number, which would render Barack Obama ineligible under both the Ohio and U.S. Constitutions.”
Daniels asks the court, among other things, to issue an injunction against Obama’s name appearing on ballot until it is determined that he is using a proper Social Security Number.
Given the response of courts elsewhere, it is unlikely that Daniels will find satisfaction in Geauga County or from the Republican secretary of state.
What Daniels has done, however, is establish a paper trail so indisputably legitimate that even the most squeamish of conservative media will have a hard time finding fault.
The major media, of course, will not bother to look. It is up to our Beltway brethren to step up and ask some very basic questions of the president that they, through their timidity in 2008, helped elect.
http://www.wnd.com/2012/07/obamas-social-secu...
The response to all the above crap is that millions of people have errors in their Social Security files, and that the Republicans in Congress would be delighted to investigate Obama's SS file if there were any evidence at all that the cause was anything other than errors.
Ellen

Dedham, MA

#89243 Jul 5, 2012
Just Sayin wrote:
<quoted text>
May have errors in their files but not duplicate Social Security Numbers except for identity theft.
It must suck to be an Obama TROLL.
No the kinds of errors includes duplicates too. Who told you that it didn't?
Just Sayin

Toledo, OH

#89244 Jul 5, 2012
Ellen wrote:
<quoted text>
The response to all the above crap is that millions of people have errors in their Social Security files, and that the Republicans in Congress would be delighted to investigate Obama's SS file if there were any evidence at all that the cause was anything other than errors.
This response totally proves you are a TROLL.

Anyone else would have slipped off into the sunset with a red face and their "Pants On Fire."

How does that egg on the face taste?
Just Sayin

Toledo, OH

#89245 Jul 5, 2012
Ellen wrote:
<quoted text>
No the kinds of errors includes duplicates too. Who told you that it didn't?
RU on drugs?

Did you even read my above post?

Here it is again for the TROLL:

Daniels, who has vetted thousands of Social Security Numbers for numerous other clients, has done her homework. In her filing, she thoroughly documents her contention “that Barack Obama has repeatedly, consistently, and with intent misrepresented himself by using a fraudulently obtained Social Security Number.”

To acquire appropriate standing in court, Daniels has gone to the trouble of establishing herself as a valid write-in candidate for president. Before she is through, this 70-something mother of seven, who has been a licensed Ohio PI since 1995, may cause Obama more trouble than the Romney campaign.

Daniels started her investigation in August 2009. Given her profession, she has been able to access a variety of proprietary databases. What she learned without much trouble is that Obama has been using a Social Security Number with the prefix “042&#8243; since 1986.

As she discovered, the “042&#8243; number is reserved for the exclusive use of individuals who register in Connecticut. When she ran 10 sequential numbers before and after Obama’s, all returned with the documentation “issued 1977-1979 in CT.”

When Daniels ran the numbers immediately flanking Obama’s, she came to the firm conviction that Obama’s number was issued in March 1977 in Connecticut.

By all accounts, as Daniels thoroughly documents, Obama was then a 15-year-old living in Hawaii. There is no record of him even visiting Connecticut in or near this time frame.

To have gotten a Social Security card at this time Obama would have had to show up for a “mandatory in-person interview.” This could not have taken place in Connecticut. Obama’s sister, Maya, by contrast, uses a number appropriate for a Hawaiian resident.

Daniels checked other databases as well to validate her findings, including the Massachusetts Department of Motor Vehicles and the IRS. Yes, Obama used the 042 number to get a driver’s license when at Harvard and as recently as on his 2009 income tax return.

In her research, Daniels kept coming across what she calls a “marked anomaly,” one she had never seen before – multiple birthdates listed for the same person. The 08/04/1961 and 04/08/1961 variation made sense, but the frequent appearance of the year “1890&#8243; did not.

The ample evidence Daniels gathered led her to believe that the 042 number Obama has been using “had previously been issued to another person,” one who lived in Connecticut between 1977 and 1979 and who was born in 1890.

This assertion can be verified. By law, the Social Security Administration will have kept on microfilm a copy of the original SS-5 application attached to a particular Social Security Number. Daniels, however, does not have access to that microfilm.

For this reason, Daniels has filed suit.“Defendant Husted, through this filing,” she argues,“has been made aware that the Democratic Candidate has been using a fraudulent Social Security Number, which would render Barack Obama ineligible under both the Ohio and U.S. Constitutions.”

Daniels asks the court, among other things, to issue an injunction against Obama’s name appearing on ballot until it is determined that he is using a proper Social Security Number.

Given the response of courts elsewhere, it is unlikely that Daniels will find satisfaction in Geauga County or from the Republican secretary of state.

What Daniels has done, however, is establish a paper trail so indisputably legitimate that even the most squeamish of conservative media will have a hard time finding fault.

The major media, of course, will not bother to look. It is up to our Beltway brethren to step up and ask some very basic questions of the president that they, through their timidity in 2008, helped elect.
http://www.wnd.com/2012/07/obamas-social-secu ....

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

United States

#89246 Jul 5, 2012
Just Sayin wrote:
Daniels, who has vetted thousands of Social Security Numbers for numerous other clients, has done her homework.

As she discovered, the “042&#8243; number is reserved for the exclusive use of individuals who register in Connecticut. When she ran 10 sequential numbers before and after Obama’s, all returned with the documentation “issued 1977-1979 in CT.”
When Daniels ran the numbers immediately flanking Obama’s, she came to the firm conviction that Obama’s number was issued in March 1977 in Connecticut.
By all accounts, as Daniels thoroughly documents, Obama was then a 15-year-old living in Hawaii. There is no record of him even visiting Connecticut in or near this time frame.

In her research, Daniels kept coming across what she calls a “marked anomaly,” one she had never seen before – multiple birthdates listed for the same person. The 08/04/1961 and 04/08/1961 variation made sense, but the frequent appearance of the year “1890&#8243; did not.
The ample evidence Daniels gathered led her to believe that the 042 number Obama has been using “had previously been issued to another person,” one who lived in Connecticut between 1977 and 1979 and who was born in 1890.
Yeah, right, Daniels believes the SSN was issued in 1977 to an eighty-seven year old person who was born in 1890.

RU interested in a bridge for sale?
Just Sayin

Toledo, OH

#89247 Jul 5, 2012
Ellen wrote:
<quoted text>
The response to all the above crap is that millions of people have errors in their Social Security files, and that the Republicans in Congress would be delighted to investigate Obama's SS file if there were any evidence at all that the cause was anything other than errors.
Your the one who is spreading crap TROLL.

Jobs must be scarce in Massachusetts?

Most bloggers would have slumped off into the sunset by now.
Just Sayin

Toledo, OH

#89248 Jul 5, 2012
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>

RU interested in a bridge for sale?
That depends on how long it is.

I have some property on the river.

Since: Dec 11

Fort Worth, TX

#89249 Jul 5, 2012
Just Sayin wrote:
<quoted text>
RU on drugs?
Did you even read my above post?
Here it is again for the TROLL:
http://www.wnd.com/2012/07/obamas-social-secu ....
YOu cite WND! No one with any intelligence is going to believe that your posts have merit. You use an obviously biased reference and then ask people to accept it as gospel. And it isn't as if you read it and gave your considered opinion of the piece; you simply cut and pasted it. I know, I'm about to get some ranting and raving, but I don't undeerstand what you expect reasonable people to think when you cite WND!!?

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

United States

#89250 Jul 5, 2012
Just Sayin wrote:
Ohio private investigator Susan Daniels has seen to that. On Monday, July 2, she filed suit in Geauga County (Ohio) Common Pleas Court demanding that Jon Husted, Ohio secretary of state, remove Obama’s name from the ballot until Obama can prove the validity of his Social Security Number.
http://www.wnd.com/2012/07/obamas-social-secu...
I didn't know that a valid SSN is a constitutional eligibility requirement for president.
2 posts removed
Just Sayin

Toledo, OH

#89253 Jul 5, 2012
Terry Buckeye wrote:
<quoted text>
YOu cite WND! No one with any intelligence is going to believe that your posts have merit. You use an obviously biased reference and then ask people to accept it as gospel. And it isn't as if you read it and gave your considered opinion of the piece; you simply cut and pasted it. I know, I'm about to get some ranting and raving, but I don't undeerstand what you expect reasonable people to think when you cite WND!!?
.

At least I site someone. All you do is come on here and run your mouth with irrelevant insults.
Just Sayin

Toledo, OH

#89254 Jul 5, 2012
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
I didn't know that a valid SSN is a constitutional eligibility requirement for president.
Don't quote me but I don't think it has anything to do with the presidency. I believe instead it is a felony.

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

United States

#89255 Jul 5, 2012
Birfoon Myth: Rule change allows Obama Selective Service Records to be destroyed.

According to the new rules, paper records are converted to microfilm. The microfilm ORIGINAL RECORD is transferred to a federal records center. A non-record COPY is kept in a locked file cabinet.

It is only the non-record file copy that is permitted to be destroyed according to the new rules.

Gullible birfoons are being played again bye world Nut Daily and other purveyors of fiction.

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

United States

#89256 Jul 5, 2012
by not bye.

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

United States

#89257 Jul 5, 2012
Just Sayin wrote:
<quoted text>
Don't quote me but I don't think it has anything to do with the presidency. I believe instead it is a felony.
It's a felony not to have a valid SSN? So when Susan Daniel's putative 87-year old geezer applied for a SSN in 1977 why didn't they throw him in jail?
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
I didn't know that a valid SSN is a constitutional eligibility requirement for president.

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

United States

#89258 Jul 5, 2012
"A duplicate microfilm
non-record copy is retained at the Data
Management Center in locked steel
cabinets until no longer needed for
reference purposes, and then destroyed."

Hey birfoons, got an effing clue what "duplicate microfilm non-record copy" means?
Just Sayin

Toledo, OH

#89259 Jul 5, 2012
wojar wrote:
Birfoon Myth: Rule change allows Obama Selective Service Records to be destroyed.
According to the new rules, paper records are converted to microfilm. The microfilm ORIGINAL RECORD is transferred to a federal records center. A non-record COPY is kept in a locked file cabinet.
It is only the non-record file copy that is permitted to be destroyed according to the new rules.
Gullible birfoons are being played again bye world Nut Daily and other purveyors of fiction.
Somebody else take this one I have to go to work.

I shall be back WOJO.

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