BARACK OBAMA BIRTH CERTIFICATE: Suit ...

BARACK OBAMA BIRTH CERTIFICATE: Suit contesting Obama's citizen...

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The U.S. Supreme Court will consider Friday whether to take up a lawsuit challenging President-elect Barack Obama 's U.S. citizenship, a continuation of a New Jersey case embraced by some opponents of Obama's ...

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“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

United States

#88816 Jul 2, 2012
Just Sayin wrote:
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There is no way I am going to look through some outdated book you posted just to prove you wrong.
The Immigration and Naturalization Service published its annual Report of the Immigration and Naturalization Service in 1963, for the year of July 1st, 1961 ending on June 30th, 1962. According to information on page 99 of the report the only certificate of acquired citizenry issued based on the grounds of birth to a U.S. citizen abroad was coincidentally also issued in the same time frame during which Barack Obama’s alleged birth date occurred on August 4th, 1961.
Gosh UR stupid. Barack Obama would not have been eligible for a certificate of acquired citizenry if he had been born in Kenya in 1961. His mother had not lived in the US for the required time period after reaching the age of 14.

Duh!

UR barking up the wrong tree.
Learn to Read wrote:
BTW Just Pastin in Crap - from the same source the Daily Pen was really hoping you wouldn't read ...
# of US Citiznes arriving by air from Kenya during the 12 month period ending JUne 30, 1962 ...
That's correct - ZERO.
http://archive.org/stream/annualreportofim196 ...
Only in Birfistan could Obama's mother trave;l to Kenya (without his father), give birth, get Babay Obama certified as a US Citizen even though that wasn't the law at the time, return to the US in time to attend classes in Washington State that fall - all without reentering the Country.
It must REALLY suck to be a Birfoon.
American Lady

Danville, KY

#88817 Jul 2, 2012
Debate over the Definition of Natural Born Citizen

Benjamin Franklin's letter to Charles W.F. Dumas, December 1775:

I am much obliged by the kind present you have made us of your edition of Vattel. It came to us in good season, when the circumstances of a rising state make it necessary frequently to consult the Law of Nations. Accordingly, that copy which I kept (after depositing one in our own public library here, and send the other to the College of Massachusetts Bay, as you directed) has been continually in the hands of the members of our congress, now sitting, who are much pleased with your notes and preface, and have entertained a high and just esteem for their author

Letter 459 Benjamin Franklin to Charles William Frederic Dumas

http://etext.lib.virginia.edu/toc/modeng/publ...

http://www.dailypaul.com/155694/need-help-fro...
Learn to Read

Indianapolis, IN

#88818 Jul 2, 2012
Just Sayin wrote:
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Dear Learning To Read
Why is your source dated for 1962?
onlya Birfoon would rant for months and months about their fantasy of a foreign birth in August 1961, then whine aboubt facts for the year ended June 30, 1962 ...

Who thought is was possible for JustPastinCrap to appear even more stupid today than he did yesterday?
Just Sayin

Toledo, OH

#88819 Jul 2, 2012
JEB wrote:
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so the Honolulu newspaper accounts, were part of the conspiracy when he was a week old. Tricky
Why should they be into anything? They printed what they were told and it didn't necessarily have to be from a hospital or the DOH. As a matter of fact I understand that they only used birth announcements as a filler and sometimes they would not print all of the births depending on the available space in the newspaper.
Just Sayin

Toledo, OH

#88820 Jul 2, 2012
Learn to Read wrote:
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onlya Birfoon would rant for months and months about their fantasy of a foreign birth in August 1961, then whine aboubt facts for the year ended June 30, 1962 ...
Who thought is was possible for JustPastinCrap to appear even more stupid today than he did yesterday?
I can see that the basic skill of reading is not your problem but that comprehending what you read is the task at hand. Try Learning one more time. Sloooooowly.

There is no way I am going to look through some outdated book you posted just to prove you wrong.

The Immigration and Naturalization Service published its annual Report of the Immigration and Naturalization Service in 1963, for the year of July 1st, 1961 ending on June 30th, 1962. According to information on page 99 of the report the only certificate of acquired citizenry issued based on the grounds of birth to a U.S. citizen abroad was coincidentally also issued in the same time frame during which Barack Obama’s alleged birth date occurred on August 4th, 1961.

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

United States

#88821 Jul 2, 2012
Just Sayin wrote:
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Why should they be into anything? They printed what they were told and it didn't necessarily have to be from a hospital or the DOH. As a matter of fact I understand that they only used birth announcements as a filler and sometimes they would not print all of the births depending on the available space in the newspaper.
Hey, BirfoonBoy, the birth was listed under "Health Bureau Statistics" in the Honolulu Sunday Advertiser.

U think that's from the Kenyan Health Bureau?

MORON.
JEB wrote:
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so the Honolulu newspaper accounts, were part of the conspiracy when he was a week old. Tricky
Just Sayin

Toledo, OH

#88822 Jul 2, 2012
wojar wrote:
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Gosh UR stupid. Barack Obama would not have been eligible for a certificate of acquired citizenry if he had been born in Kenya in 1961. His mother had not lived in the US for the required time period after reaching the age of 14.
Duh!
UR barking up the wrong tree.
<quoted text>
From what I have read the INS wasn't too concerned with the parents age. Their only concern was that the child not be over the age of 18.
American Lady

Danville, KY

#88823 Jul 2, 2012
There is a design problem which plagues newspapers with predictable regularity. Often a news or feature article will run too short, leaving unexpected blank space on the page.

Some small item is needed to >--->> fill the hole. In the newspaper trade,
these hole-pluggers are referred to as "fillers."

...Sometimes a short birth announcement can be tucked into the empty spot.

But sometimes there are no convenient ads or babies to help the layout people cope with their holes.

That's how D.A.W.'s career was born.

http://www.indianhillpress.com/daw.html

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

United States

#88824 Jul 2, 2012
Just Sayin wrote:
<quoted text>
I can see that the basic skill of reading is not your problem but that comprehending what you read is the task at hand. Try Learning one more time. Sloooooowly.
There is no way I am going to look through some outdated book you posted just to prove you wrong.
The Immigration and Naturalization Service published its annual Report of the Immigration and Naturalization Service in 1963, for the year of July 1st, 1961 ending on June 30th, 1962. According to information on page 99 of the report the only certificate of acquired citizenry issued based on the grounds of birth to a U.S. citizen abroad was coincidentally also issued in the same time frame during which Barack Obama’s alleged birth date occurred on August 4th, 1961.
Gosh! The Annual Report for the year ended June 30, 1962 is "some outdated book" when cited by LTR, but the annual report for the year ended June 30, 1962 is relevant when JS wants it to be! How did the birfoon learn that trick?

BTW, MORON, Barack Obama II was not eligible to be granted a certificate of citizenship if he was born in Kenya in August, 1961. Whoever it was from Kenya that acquired citizenship deriving from a parent in 1961 could not possibly be Barack Obama. Your house of cards just fell apart. Sorry.

U need to get a clue.
Learn to Read wrote:
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onlya Birfoon would rant for months and months about their fantasy of a foreign birth in August 1961, then whine aboubt facts for the year ended June 30, 1962 ...
Who thought is was possible for JustPastinCrap to appear even more stupid today than he did yesterday?
American Lady

Danville, KY

#88825 Jul 2, 2012
8-D
Just Sayin

Toledo, OH

#88826 Jul 2, 2012
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
Hey, BirfoonBoy, the birth was listed under "Health Bureau Statistics" in the Honolulu Sunday Advertiser.
U think that's from the Kenyan Health Bureau?
MORON.
<quoted text>
Do you have a source for that statement or are you just spinning your tennies again?
Just Sayin

Toledo, OH

#88827 Jul 2, 2012
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
Gosh! The Annual Report for the year ended June 30, 1962 is "some outdated book" when cited by LTR, but the annual report for the year ended June 30, 1962 is relevant when JS wants it to be! How did the birfoon learn that trick?
BTW, MORON, Barack Obama II was not eligible to be granted a certificate of citizenship if he was born in Kenya in August, 1961. Whoever it was from Kenya that acquired citizenship deriving from a parent in 1961 could not possibly be Barack Obama. Your house of cards just fell apart. Sorry.
U need to get a clue.
<quoted text>
Whats the matter with you Obots? Can't you read? Could this be one of the reasons Obama won the election?

The Immigration and Naturalization Service published its annual Report of the Immigration and Naturalization Service in 1963, for the year of July 1st, 1961 ending on June 30th, 1962. According to information on page 99 of the report the only certificate of acquired citizenry issued based on the grounds of birth to a U.S. citizen abroad was coincidentally also issued in the same time frame during which Barack Obama’s alleged birth date occurred on August 4th, 1961.

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

United States

#88828 Jul 2, 2012
Just Sayin wrote:
<quoted text>
From what I have read the INS wasn't too concerned with the parents age. Their only concern was that the child not be over the age of 18.
From what you hallucinated while U were in the State Mental Ward?

UR proven wrong. UR barking up the wrong tree.

Grow up. The eggs and tomatoes are still on your face.

Barack Obama II was not eligible to derive citizenship from his mother.

Your fantasy has no legs.

Take your meds.
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
Gosh UR stupid. Barack Obama would not have been eligible for a certificate of acquired citizenry if he had been born in Kenya in 1961. His mother had not lived in the US for the required time period after reaching the age of 14.
Duh!
UR barking up the wrong tree.
Cancer on the pResidency

Shreveport, LA

#88829 Jul 2, 2012
wojar wrote:
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The court in Minor makes no mention of "one" having citizen parents.
You must be devoid of common sense!
How many parents must one have to have been born of citizen parents?
The answer is clearly TWO!
This remains a FACT that your post did not change.

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

United States

#88830 Jul 2, 2012
Just Sayin wrote:
<quoted text>
Do you have a source for that statement or are you just spinning your tennies again?
Huh? The Honolulu Sunday Advertiser announcements have been well known well before the election. Where have you been all this time?

I think the source of the Honolulu Advertiser announcement is, ummmm, get this, the Honolulu Advertiser.

See August 13, 1961, page B-6.

And I suspect, "Health Bureau Statistics" doesn't mean the Kenyan Health Bureau, considering that all the children are Hawaiian.

Hee hee.
wojar wrote:
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Hey, BirfoonBoy, the birth was listed under "Health Bureau Statistics" in the Honolulu Sunday Advertiser.
U think that's from the Kenyan Health Bureau?
MORON.
American Lady

Danville, KY

#88831 Jul 2, 2012
Posted by stevor 3 years ago
stevor Asked:
Obama's COLB seemingly not even valid in Hawaii
http://aolanswers.com/questions/obamas_colb_s...

Need more??????....;-)
Got plenty.....
Cancer on the pResidency

Shreveport, LA

#88832 Jul 2, 2012
Ellen wrote:
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Who says that two citizen parents, or even one citizen parent, is required?????
You must be devoid of common sense!
How many parents must one have to have been born of citizen parents?
The answer is clearly TWO!
This remains a FACT that your post did not change.
Just Sayin

Toledo, OH

#88833 Jul 2, 2012
wojar wrote:
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From what you hallucinated while U were in the State Mental Ward?
UR proven wrong. UR barking up the wrong tree.
Grow up. The eggs and tomatoes are still on your face.
Barack Obama II was not eligible to derive citizenship from his mother.
Your fantasy has no legs.
Take your meds.
<quoted text>
Where is your source for newspapers?

Acquired Citizenship - Citizenship conferred at birth on children born abroad to a U.S. citizen parent(s).

A child who is born in the United States, or born abroad to a U.S. citizen(s) who lived in (or came to) the United States for a period of time prior to the child’s birth, is considered a U.S. citizen at birth. A child who is:

born to a U.S. citizen who did not live in (or come to) the United States for a period of time prior to the child’s birth, or

born to one U.S. citizen parent and one alien parent or two alien parents who naturalize after the child’s birth, or

adopted and is permanently residing in the United States can become a U.S. citizen by action of law on the date on which all of the following requirements have been met:

The child was lawfully admitted for permanent residence*; and

Either parent was a United States citizen by birth or naturalization**; and

The child was still under 18 years of age; and

The child was not married; and

The child was the parent’s legitimate child or was legitimated by the parent before the child’s 16th birthday (Stepchildren or

children born out of wedlock who were not legitimated before their 16th birthday do not derive United States citizenship through their parents.); and

If adopted, the child met the requirements of section 101(b)(1)(E) or (F) and has had a full and final adoption; and

The child was residing in the United States in the legal custody of the U.S. citizen parent (this includes joint custody); and

The child was residing in the United States in the physical custody of the U.S. citizen parent.

the westerner

“wisdom”

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#88834 Jul 2, 2012
nebka wrote:
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Critical tipping point means when something reaches a point where there is no turning back.
Here is an example Titanic could stay afloat with 4 compartments flooded not 5 because the bulkheads did not go high enough then the water could flow in to the next compartments and so forth and she sunk
So, this applies to Greenland how?

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

United States

#88835 Jul 2, 2012
Cancer on the pResidency wrote:
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You must be devoid of common sense!
How many parents must one have to have been born of citizen parents?
The answer is clearly TWO!
This remains a FACT that your post did not change.
For one child to be born of citizen parents, it indeed would require two citizen parents. Too bad, "all children" is not "one child".

Grow up and learn English.

"all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens"

Now where does Tacky hallucinate the "one child" with two parents fantasy?

"All children" is a class of individuals, not "one".

All the boys brought their dates to the prom does not mean "Two girls for every boy."

Grow up, go back to school and get your GED.

Please!
wojar wrote:
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The court in Minor makes no mention of "one" having citizen parents.

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