Video: Obama: Could Trayvon Martin "have stood his ground?"

There are 170 comments on the CBS News story from Jul 19, 2013, titled Video: Obama: Could Trayvon Martin "have stood his ground?". In it, CBS News reports that:

"If Trayvon Martin was of age and armed, could he have stood his ground on that sidewalk?" President Obama asked Friday, suggesting policymakers may want to revisit some laws and law enforcement practices that deal with firearms and self-defense.

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“Yeah, but...”

Since: Sep 11

MILKY WAY

#136 Jul 21, 2013
spocko wrote:
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I guess I could draw a picture for you moron - strapping a gun to your hip and following someone to their home without announcing yourself is enough?
Following an unarmed person is baiting that person into a fight? Good gracious. Please stay out of the city. You'd be fighting all day!
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spocko

Oakland, CA

#138 Jul 21, 2013
SirPrize wrote:
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Following an unarmed person is baiting that person into a fight? Good gracious. Please stay out of the city. You'd be fighting all day!
Sober up moron, it was not in the city and was dark and rainy and close to house where the kid stayed with his dad - would that really make you happy having someone creep sneaking up behind you?

Since: Mar 09

The Left Coast

#139 Jul 21, 2013
spocko wrote:
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Your argument is entirely self-serving and besides the point!
So I'm a progressive liberal?? Damn it.
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Since: Mar 09

The Left Coast

#141 Jul 21, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>it is not any president dividing the country, it is hyper-partisans like you doing that...
I appreciate you equating my one post on topix to the world wide speech President Obama gave on how the Zimmerman case was based purely on race. I'm flattered, but I think Obama carries a tad more weight in keeping this a national race issue.
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Since: Nov 08

Paris

#144 Jul 22, 2013
General Robert E Lee wrote:
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Why didn't Trayvon call the cops?
He was too busy calling Zimmerman a cracka..........

Since: Nov 08

Paris

#145 Jul 22, 2013
spocko wrote:
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Sober up moron, it was not in the city and was dark and rainy and close to house where the kid stayed with his dad - would that really make you happy having someone creep sneaking up behind you?
It was not the house where Trayvon lived with his father pookie. They were visiting his fathers girlfriends house and he had sent Trayvon out for skittles and tea while he knocked off a nooner......

Since: Nov 08

Paris

#146 Jul 22, 2013
spocko wrote:
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I guess I could draw a picture for you moron - strapping a gun to your hip and following someone to their home without announcing yourself is enough?
Lie of course. It was not his home and had he went to his father's girlfriends house instead of hiding in the bushes when Zimmerman started walking back to his vehicle he would be alive today.
conservative crapola

Bethlehem, PA

#147 Jul 22, 2013
Le Jimbo wrote:
<quoted text>It was not the house where Trayvon lived with his father pookie. They were visiting his fathers girlfriends house and he had sent Trayvon out for skittles and tea while he knocked off a nooner......
According to another poster, your nooners consist of waxing the carrot.

hahahahahahahahahaha

Since: Nov 08

Paris

#148 Jul 22, 2013
conservative crapola wrote:
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According to another poster, your nooners consist of waxing the carrot.
hahahahahahahahahaha
Well ol' master of the gnat brain, it is funny watching you loons run with your nose up such a liar as Obama ass. Did you get his speech about how he relates with Trayvon......what a joke. Obama went to a very elite private school in Hawaii and didn't really take up the black gambit till running for office at 28. You are following a fraud and are just too stupid to see it. I do see how you relate to turds though....you being such a dumbshit puppet.
Cat74

Mchenry, IL

#149 Jul 22, 2013
No no, we need President Obama talking from the heart, without a teleprompter, pretending he was a poor ghetto lad. A poor ghetto lad that went to Columbia, and Harvard, because of his hard working white Grandmother he had nothing but contempt for.
bellowing niceties

Greeley, CO

#150 Jul 22, 2013
"The Illinois Review says Obama didn’t seem to have any of those concerns when in 2004 he co-sponsored S.B. 2386, which broadened the state’s Stand Your Ground law 'by shielding the person who was attacked from being sued in civil court by perpetrators or their estates when a ’stand your ground’ defense is used in protecting his or her person, dwelling or other property.'

S.B. 2386 passed the Illinois state senate by a 56–0 vote on March 25, 2004. It sailed through the state house with only two 'nay" votes. Both chambers were controlled by Democrats."

Opppsie.... I think I see a liar and a hypocrite, and he's in the White House!
spocko

Oakland, CA

#151 Jul 22, 2013
RustyS wrote:
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So I'm a progressive liberal?? Damn it.
A "progressive liberal"??? No you are a f-ing moron!
spocko

Oakland, CA

#152 Jul 22, 2013
Le Jimbo wrote:
<quoted text>Well ol' master of the gnat brain, it is funny watching you loons run with your nose up such a liar as Obama ass. Did you get his speech about how he relates with Trayvon......what a joke. Obama went to a very elite private school in Hawaii and didn't really take up the black gambit till running for office at 28. You are following a fraud and are just too stupid to see it. I do see how you relate to turds though....you being such a dumbshit puppet.
Ahh our daily dose of creepy El Bimbo idiocy!!
serfs up

Ormond Beach, FL

#153 Jul 22, 2013
spocko wrote:
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Sober up moron, it was not in the city and was dark and rainy and close to house where the kid stayed with his dad - would that really make you happy having someone creep sneaking up behind you?
So it means "city rules" apply to all other places in the country by your remarks. What happened is that there are places in America where people still defend themselves. Even if the standards of machismo does not pass your standards of acceptance. Most violence is one way today. Most racial violence is even more stringent. When people fight back the alarms rise. And in this case, the fear of retribution has raised its head. At this point it is miniscule. But as men and women keep purchasing weapons, there will be more and more events taking place. Saving their lives against the enemy. Even as blacks keep maiming and killing whites. The self hating whites will keep spouting in denial of what is happening to make themselves feel less guilty and stylish for the current times. Yet none will do the ultimate using their wealth to help and move to integrate ethnic, cultural and racial areas to bring them up to par with everyone else. So the neighbors get charged to alleviate their guilt.
Responsibility

Petaluma, CA

#154 Jul 22, 2013
serfs up wrote:
<quoted text> But as men and women keep purchasing weapons, there will be more and more events taking place. Saving their lives against the enemy.
The enemy is us - those folks who need a gun to feel safe, amerikkkkkan and less paranoid.

Mr. Martin was not the enemy - the enemy was the man following him - who if he had not used his gun - a young man would still be alive today.

Last I heard skittles and iced tea don't kill - but guns kill.
Responsibility

Petaluma, CA

#155 Jul 22, 2013
Le Jimbo wrote:
<quoted text> Did you get his speech about how he relates with Trayvon......what a joke.
Dear, open your mind and listen. This is not a joke. If you have spoken to anyone (especially black men) you would understand what he is saying.

We have a problem, Houston, and some of us hope for improvements (and no I am not a black man)

Get out more (if you are allowed!)
serfs up

Ormond Beach, FL

#156 Jul 22, 2013
Responsibility wrote:
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The enemy is us - those folks who need a gun to feel safe, amerikkkkkan and less paranoid.
Mr. Martin was not the enemy - the enemy was the man following him - who if he had not used his gun - a young man would still be alive today.
Last I heard skittles and iced tea don't kill - but guns kill.
Zimmerman was a registered Democrat and liberal. Zimmerman is not pure white as to best get the progressive venom for his transgressions. Ameriika today is the result of massive progressive thinking with massive costly programs and much waste of resources. Let us have a total audit by a hundred thousand accountants of every dollar transferred from one person to another the last half century. That will be a start. Then we will get to the truth for us all. And until hating racist bigots like yourself start admitting to all of the black on white nasty crimes, wha tyou write means nothing. The people destroyed or forced to genuflect in America for making stupid statements is assinine. What happened is equality was achieved, but you blew it. So standards were dropped and it was still not enough. Poverty can not even be attacked as perpetual poverty game is played by people that mastered the game of collecting. Worrying about a stupid azz minor crime is because of fear. Not the fear you accuse those with weapons to defend themselves. But the fear the fifty year game will get real. And it will anyway as Amerrrika is slowly becoming a basket case.
Simple

Longview, TX

#157 Jul 22, 2013
Responsibility wrote:
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Dearie, I believe you need to open your eyes, clean out your ears and listen carefully to what the President said.
The next generation and the younger generation are less discriminatory than ours - and yours - and as others have stated, there is hope that they can also listen to a speech and understand the words.
I apologize that I don't see Obama through the racist prism of "he's black so anything he does is good" like you do. Your new messiah Obama is doing more to foster the divide between races more than any president in modern history. If you think racism is worse today than it was in the 60's and 70's the you were not around or you are turning a blind eye to the reality that doesn't fit your argument. I was commenting that racism is growing at an alarming rate under Obama and it will get worse.

My comments are based on the content if the president's character rather than his skin color. I know you won't understand that - it's ok sweetie - I didn't expect you to.
Dr Sybil

Austin, TX

#158 Jul 22, 2013
Gary wrote:
Even though I think Zimmerman was guilty as hell,
I also believe that no jury could have found
him guilty. Only two people knew what happened
that night and one is dead and gone. There were
two sides to the story and one side is missing.
No witnesses. No video. No provable motive.
Just too much room for reasonable doubt.
You have a history of mental illness.
bellowing niceties

Greeley, CO

#159 Jul 22, 2013
Obama has a theme song! Seems he has a new title since his interventions in the Zimmerman case:

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