Video: Obama: Could Trayvon Martin "have stood his ground?"

Jul 19, 2013 Full story: CBS News 170

"If Trayvon Martin was of age and armed, could he have stood his ground on that sidewalk?" President Obama asked Friday, suggesting policymakers may want to revisit some laws and law enforcement practices that deal with firearms and self-defense.

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Since: Mar 09

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#69 Jul 20, 2013
Le Jimbo wrote:
<quoted text>Wasn't it Obama who said if they bring a knife you bring a gun.........Is it Zimmerman's fault Trayvon brought a sidewalk to a gun fight.
Yep,he's insane.
Sheik Yerbouti

Furlong, PA

#70 Jul 20, 2013
Martin simply picked the wrong person to sucker punch! American citizens should never be forced to endure a violent attack for the sake of political correctness!

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#71 Jul 20, 2013
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Wondering

Tupelo, MS

#72 Jul 20, 2013
Responsibility wrote:
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You forgot the interim part of the equation = Creepy Zimmerman creeped after Mr, Martin, followed Mr. Martin and stalked Mr. Martin - and he was asked not to.
The end result - Zimmerman shot Mr. Martin.
Zimmerman was doing his job as neighborhood watchman.He was watching people that were in the neighborhood.All Martin had to do was keep walking or call 911 and say someone is stalking me.If he had done either ,more than likely he would be alive today.But no, he had to confront Zimmerman and jump him and try to kill him by slamming his head into the sidewalk.Martim started it,and Zimmerman finished it.

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#73 Jul 20, 2013
Treyvon could have broken Zimmerman's nose and got away with it if he had just walked away after he hit him in the face. But he didn't walk away. He got on top of Zimmerman and started pounding his head against the ground. Zimmerman's defense hinged on the fact that TM was on top of him when he fired his weapon. Bad decision on TM part and GZ had a right to defend himself against such an attack.

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#74 Jul 20, 2013
Banned wrote:
Treyvon could have broken Zimmerman's nose and got away with it if he had just walked away after he hit him in the face. But he didn't walk away. He got on top of Zimmerman and started pounding his head against the ground. Zimmerman's defense hinged on the fact that TM was on top of him when he fired his weapon. Bad decision on TM part and GZ had a right to defend himself against such an attack.
Turns out that creepy ass crackah had a gun. Oooops!

Since: Mar 11

Minnesota's North Coast

#75 Jul 20, 2013
Wondering wrote:
<quoted text>Zimmerman was doing his job as neighborhood watchman.He was watching people that were in the neighborhood.All Martin had to do was keep walking or call 911 and say someone is stalking me.If he had done either ,more than likely he would be alive today.But no, he had to confront Zimmerman and jump him and try to kill him by slamming his head into the sidewalk.Martim started it,and Zimmerman finished it.
you are assuming that Zimmerman, a proven physically violent man, didn't accost Martin physically...

if Zimmerman had stayed in his car as trained law enforcement officials told him to, he would have shot no-one that night...
Wondering

Tupelo, MS

#76 Jul 20, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>you are assuming that Zimmerman, a proven physically violent man, didn't accost Martin physically...
if Zimmerman had stayed in his car as trained law enforcement officials told him to, he would have shot no-one that night...
You have to trust the courts and the jury to get it right from the information that they have.They had no information that Zimmerman did anything but what his job was supposed to do.Watch the neighborhood.It was a dispatcher that told him that he did not need to follow Martin.She didn't say "do not follow him"only you don't need to.What if the jury had thrown him in jail for 20 years ,and he had only been defending his life,justice would not have been served.

Since: Mar 11

Minnesota's North Coast

#77 Jul 20, 2013
Wondering wrote:
<quoted text>You have to trust the courts and the jury to get it right from the information that they have.They had no information that Zimmerman did anything but what his job was supposed to do.Watch the neighborhood.It was a dispatcher that told him that he did not need to follow Martin.She didn't say "do not follow him"only you don't need to.What if the jury had thrown him in jail for 20 years ,and he had only been defending his life,justice would not have been served.
there is a reason the dispatcher told him that, he was not a trained law enforcement official and as a neighborhood watch captain should have stopped his duties at that call.

he admits he followed martin so he started the confrontation and then when he started to lose, pulled a gun and shot that kid. as any civil suit will discuss at length, it was Zimmermans actions that caused martin's death. if he had stayed in his car, no-one would have got shot there that night...

Since: Mar 08

Allentown, PA

#78 Jul 20, 2013
Responsibility wrote:
<quoted text>
What does it matter, dear friend, if Zimmerman was half white/half Hispanic.
If you want to continue to make race your "excuse/propaganda/smear " which side of Zimmerman's heritage pulled the trigger? LOLL
For the purposes of fund raising (and raising tv ratings) by Al Sharpton and others, Zimmerman became a "White" Hispanic.
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Zimmerman is pretty dark skinned, so it had to be repeatedly said he was a "White" Hispanic.
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Often ignored is somehow Zimmerman ended up on his back. Also ignored is the curious comment by Jantel suggesting Martin thought Zimmerman was a gay pervert. Did Martin think he could take on the rolly poly gay pervert?

Since: Mar 08

Allentown, PA

#79 Jul 20, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>there is a reason the dispatcher told him that, he was not a trained law enforcement official and as a neighborhood watch captain should have stopped his duties at that call.
he admits he followed martin so he started the confrontation and then when he started to lose, pulled a gun and shot that kid. as any civil suit will discuss at length, it was Zimmermans actions that caused martin's death. if he had stayed in his car, no-one would have got shot there that night...
If Martin stayed home that night, he wouldn't have gotten shot.

Since: Mar 11

Minnesota's North Coast

#80 Jul 20, 2013
LookingToEscape wrote:
<quoted text>
If Martin stayed home that night, he wouldn't have gotten shot.
but he was not going against a trained, law enforcement officials advise in going to the store to get tea and skittles.

Zimmerman was indeed going far beyind what neighborhood watch people are trained to do and directed to do by the police.

again, any civil suit will discuss this at length...
Robert

Douglasville, GA

#81 Jul 20, 2013
Cool, bring back dueling, be very polite or a good shot. I could handle either so I would be safe.

Since: Mar 11

Minnesota's North Coast

#82 Jul 20, 2013
Robert wrote:
Cool, bring back dueling, be very polite or a good shot. I could handle either so I would be safe.
yes, let us go backwards as a society...

not a good idea.
Wondering

Tupelo, MS

#83 Jul 20, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>there is a reason the dispatcher told him that, he was not a trained law enforcement official and as a neighborhood watch captain should have stopped his duties at that call.
he admits he followed martin so he started the confrontation and then when he started to lose, pulled a gun and shot that kid. as any civil suit will discuss at length, it was Zimmermans actions that caused martin's death. if he had stayed in his car, no-one would have got shot there that night...
He did not start the confrontation.He was just looking for Martin,when He was jumped on and knocked down.So Martin started the confrontation.Are you saying that Martin had a right to walk down the sidewalk,but Zimmerman didn't.Surely not,that would be violating Zimmermans civil right to use the sidewalk.Com e on you are grabbing at straws.

Since: Mar 11

Minnesota's North Coast

#84 Jul 20, 2013
Wondering wrote:
<quoted text>He did not start the confrontation.He was just looking for Martin,when He was jumped on and knocked down.So Martin started the confrontation.Are you saying that Martin had a right to walk down the sidewalk,but Zimmerman didn't.Surely not,that would be violating Zimmermans civil right to use the sidewalk.Com e on you are grabbing at straws.
he told the 911 dispatcher clearly that he was following martin. agianst the training they give neighborhood watch members and against eh advice of the trained law enforcement official. for a very good reason...untrained people like Zimmerman do not know how to handle such confrontations and they can often turn deadly. he caused this death with his inept actions and disregard for trained law enforcement officials advice.

again, the civil suit will discuss this at length...
Wondering

Tupelo, MS

#85 Jul 20, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>he told the 911 dispatcher clearly that he was following martin. agianst the training they give neighborhood watch members and against eh advice of the trained law enforcement official. for a very good reason...untrained people like Zimmerman do not know how to handle such confrontations and they can often turn deadly. he caused this death with his inept actions and disregard for trained law enforcement officials advice.
again, the civil suit will discuss this at length...
Martin caused his own death by attacking Zimmerman.He had no reason to attack him.Zimmerman was walking down the sidewalk,which he had a right to,and there was no reason for Martin to do anything.He should have kept on walking and he would be alive today.The dispatcher could not tell Zimmerman not to walk in the neighborhood.He had that right.
amcummer

Saint Paul, MN

#86 Jul 20, 2013
Of course not if Trayvon Martin stood his ground he would rot in jail. Look civil law got OJ in jail even tough he got acquitted on the murder charge. So white makes right again?

Since: Mar 11

Minnesota's North Coast

#87 Jul 20, 2013
amcummer wrote:
Of course not if Trayvon Martin stood his ground he would rot in jail. Look civil law got OJ in jail even tough he got acquitted on the murder charge. So white makes right again?
OJ never went to jail over the Nicole Simpson murder.

you should research your facts...

Since: Mar 08

Allentown, PA

#88 Jul 20, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>but he was not going against a trained, law enforcement officials advise in going to the store to get tea and skittles.
Zimmerman was indeed going far beyind what neighborhood watch people are trained to do and directed to do by the police.
again, any civil suit will discuss this at length...
If someone is robbing you and ready to kill you, do you ask the villian to hold on while you call the police to see if it's okay to shoot the criminal?
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Zimmerman went to check on which street he spotted Martin which is very legal to do. Martin on top of Zimmerman beating him isn't an indication Zimmerman went after him.
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There is no reason for Zimmerman to change his story under a civil suit.
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Keep in mind, if a civil suit occurs, Zimmerman can have brought forward every thing in Martin's life and Zimmerman's lawyer can paint Martin in a very bad light like he couldn't do in the criminal trial.

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