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Video: Obama: Could Trayvon Martin "have stood his ground?"

There are 170 comments on the CBS News story from Jul 19, 2013, titled Video: Obama: Could Trayvon Martin "have stood his ground?". In it, CBS News reports that:

"If Trayvon Martin was of age and armed, could he have stood his ground on that sidewalk?" President Obama asked Friday, suggesting policymakers may want to revisit some laws and law enforcement practices that deal with firearms and self-defense.

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Buzzcut

Leominster, MA

#45 Jul 19, 2013
A man who took a black girl to his prom, tutored black children, and acted as s civil rights activist when he saw what he thought was Sanford Police abuse of a black suspect is called a racist by the leftist press.

The idea that Zimmerman accosted Martin with a gun and then was physically dominated and battered for several minutes by the larger and tougher Martin who did not bother to go for the gun until the end is ludicrous.

It is pretty obvious that Zimmerman held back as long as he could from using his gun and only went to use it after it was finally discovered by Martin.

If this ever goes to civil trial I think Zimmerman will have a great case from the now public evidence to show that the depraved racial hatred (needed for 2nd degree murder charges) emanated not from Zimmerman but from Trevon Martin.

From the reaction by the NAACP and others it appears that the jury was women and mostly white as there were not available RACIALLY UNBIASED Black or Male jurors in the jury pool.

Maybe it would be better for blacks who believe that the USA is incorrigibly racist to petition that a couple states be set aside for them where they can live entirely separately from white folks. If the country is truly as they say, then we would be better to split it up. Think of how well blacks would live with no racist whites in their lives. Of course, one could move to Africa to live in an Afro Centric paradise as well.

“DONT BELIEVE FAKE RUSSIA”

Since: Mar 09

CONSPIRACIES BY FAKE NEWS!

#46 Jul 19, 2013
Obama, the divider.. not the uniter!!!
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“Hillary, thirty years of lying”

Since: Nov 08

Paris

#49 Jul 20, 2013
SIR LANCELOT wrote:
Obama, stirring the racial hatred blacks have against whites even more.
Notice not a word from him about the violent hate crimes blacks are committing against whites, hispanics and others over the Zimmerman verdict.
I started a thread just so we can keep up with the ones the MSM doesn't report on.
http://www.topix.com/forum/us/politics/TCOFFK...
.......and to think after spreading more racial divide, Obama still hasn't committed on Benghazi, AP Gate, IRS Gate, Health Gate, ACA Gate and Snoop Gate..... nor have the MSM.

“Hillary, thirty years of lying”

Since: Nov 08

Paris

#50 Jul 20, 2013
American_Infidel wrote:
Obama, the divider.. not the uniter!!!
Wasn't it Obama who said if they bring a knife you bring a gun.........Is it Zimmerman's fault Trayvon brought a sidewalk to a gun fight.
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senior citizen

Granite City, IL

#52 Jul 20, 2013
SIR LANCELOT wrote:
<quoted text>Obama is using Trayvon to push his devide the country agenda.
I agree - he also made the statement that he could have been Trayvon - Obama is for Obama always has to put his racist 2 cents in. What he did NOT SAY is WHY do people lock their car doors when they see an AA coming at them? Why do they move to the other side of the street to stay away from them - why did he not say that most of the time the AAs are going to beat the shet out of the seniors and the ones that they believe are weak. The AA's brought this on themselves. NO ONE WILL TRUST THEM. He should have given an answer as to why the AA teenagers are being seen in the light that they are currently seen by the public. Even some AA's are afraid of them. Yet Obama does not have the goolies to address the issue. Obama took America back to 1960 – he likes to divide, and conquer.
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Law and Order

United States

#54 Jul 20, 2013
Le Jimbo wrote:
<quoted text>.......and to think after spreading more racial divide, Obama still hasn't committed on Benghazi, AP Gate, IRS Gate, Health Gate, ACA Gate and Snoop Gate..... nor have the MSM.
Obammy is stirring the racial divide pot to deflect from his incompetence, and his and his administrations participation in all the scandals you mention.

I think that he believes that he`ll benifit from riots in the streets. Law abiding Americans of all colors should be prepared to take action if need be.

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#55 Jul 20, 2013
Law and Order wrote:
<quoted text>
Obammy is stirring the racial divide pot to deflect from his incompetence, and his and his administrations participation in all the scandals you mention.
I think that he believes that he`ll benifit from riots in the streets. Law abiding Americans of all colors should be prepared to take action if need be.
you meant all the partisan witch hunts, not scandals, right? scandals have factual basis to them...
Math

United States

#56 Jul 20, 2013
Our president's racist speech continues his history of widening the divide between blacks and all other races. Obama has set race relations back 40 years already. The number of racists in our country was actually in decline - to be sure there were still many out there but the numbers were going down simply because you could prove that racism was based on ignorance. It is kind of harder to do that when a president is as racist one direction as a sheet wearin klansman is the other. Obama is fostering the growth of the next generation of racists before our eyes - creating an entirely new set of stereotypes that will be used to resurrect and even perpetuate the divides between races. Obama doesn't think he can win unless the country is divided - he simply chose race as his tool because it has served him well his whole life. I rank Obama right up there with the Klansmen of old in his allegiance to racism - they are two sides of the same coin.

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#57 Jul 20, 2013
Math wrote:
Our president's racist speech continues his history of widening the divide between blacks and all other races. Obama has set race relations back 40 years already. The number of racists in our country was actually in decline - to be sure there were still many out there but the numbers were going down simply because you could prove that racism was based on ignorance. It is kind of harder to do that when a president is as racist one direction as a sheet wearin klansman is the other. Obama is fostering the growth of the next generation of racists before our eyes - creating an entirely new set of stereotypes that will be used to resurrect and even perpetuate the divides between races. Obama doesn't think he can win unless the country is divided - he simply chose race as his tool because it has served him well his whole life. I rank Obama right up there with the Klansmen of old in his allegiance to racism - they are two sides of the same coin.
what makes you think racism was on the decline?

it is hyperpartisans like you that are dividing the country, not Obama...remember all the idiots screaming that Bush was out to purposefully divide and ruin the country for eight years? you are just like them....just like them.
Responsibility

Petaluma, CA

#58 Jul 20, 2013
Math wrote:
Obama is fostering the growth of the next generation of racists before our eyes -
Dearie, I believe you need to open your eyes, clean out your ears and listen carefully to what the President said.

The next generation and the younger generation are less discriminatory than ours - and yours - and as others have stated, there is hope that they can also listen to a speech and understand the words.
Responsibility

Petaluma, CA

#59 Jul 20, 2013
Law and Order wrote:
<quoted text>
I think that he believes that he`ll benifit from riots in the streets..
I believe that even a kindergartener would find your comment distasteful, ignorant and unamerikkkkkkkkan.

Try again ....
Gravediggers

Boynton Beach, FL

#60 Jul 20, 2013
People SAW and HEARD the testimony. President Obama seeks to dissuade the public on the evidence presented and the jury's decision.

The goal to let this matter of Stand Your Ground take over the 2014 election in the state of FL to turn the state from Republican dominated to Democrat dominated.

Get EMOTIONS elevated, so the protesters will come out in vote in the off year election in 2014.

Capture the governorship of FL- turn the right to work state in another direction, start up a state income tax, implement Obamacare.

Democrats WANT FL- it has huge implications and electoral votes in the 2016 presidential election and with a possible democrat governor (It WILL be republican, turned independent, turned democrat Charlie Crist; now "writing" a book- a SURE SIGN of running for office and a way to have wealthy democrat patrons BUY up the book in bulk -a la Obamas- and pad Crist's financial accounts for the run for FL governor in 2014.

Agitation of EMOTIONS to ensure bigger turn out in an off election year.

Democrats better watch out for a hispanic backlash as they trashed Zimmerman. Well, the 'media' trashed Zimmerman. The media does the dirty work and Obama remains 'clean'. Ain't that what Joe Biden said about Obama. He was 'clean'.

“Proud To Be An American”

Since: Apr 07

Location hidden

#61 Jul 20, 2013
Responsibility wrote:
<quoted text>
I would humbly suggest that there is more than a reasonable doubt that Zimmerman is telling the whole truth and nothing but the truth - after all there is only one side who is alive to tell what really happened.
But there is no reasonable doubt that Zimmerman followed Mr. Martin with a gun and shot Mr. Martin.
Attention inability!!! Yepper it's pathetic incompetent white trash like you who assume your twisted zingers have merit. Well news for you douchebaggur...Mr. Zimmerman could hold the parents of the "child" responsible for assault and attempted murder by ways of their four inch height advantage "child" using concrete to bash Mr. Zimmerman's head. Furthermore a Civil Rights hoopla charge against Zimmerman is just more insightful filth used to stir what amounts to obama's and ayers' very gullible black-liberation-army...aka useful idiots.
Poor little half-white obama...as a youth he had to endure prejudice like the black martin child. I suppose Hispanics like Zimmerman wouldn't know a thing about prejudice. Obviously that one-sided dumbfuk self-serving obama forgot all about Zimmerman being Hispanic and silly azzhats like you never noticed.
I suggest you make yourself available to disgruntled blacks so they can take their frustrations out on your head like the goody-two-shoes martin did to Zimmerman. As for the rest of us...it's stand your ground.
Gravediggers

Boynton Beach, FL

#62 Jul 20, 2013
Miami Herald article on Stand Your Ground:

The Times analysis found no obvious bias in how black defendants have been treated:

• Whites who invoked the law were charged at the SAME RATE as blacks.

• Whites who went to trial were convicted at the SAME RATE as blacks.

• In mixed-race cases involving fatalities, the outcomes were SIMILAR. Four of the five blacks who killed a white went free; five of the six whites who killed a black went free.

• Overall, BLACK defendants WENT FREE 66 percent of the time in fatal cases compared to 61 percent for white defendants — a difference explained, in part, by the fact BLACKS were more LIKELY to kill another BLACK.

Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/06/03/2831277...

Oust politicians who seek to make citizens DEFENSELESS. We need to be able to protect our families from the flagrant aggressors.

Police CAN NOT BE EVERYWHERE. Citizens need to be able to protect themselves.

We do not need LAWYERS for the aggressor to file lawsuit against citizens for protecting ourselves. We KNOW how litigious lawyers are! Every case MEANS $$$$$$$$$$ in THEIR POCKETS.

FL State Attorney Angela Corey was inept. She seems more interested in publicity for HERSELF and LOVES the media attention. What a fake.

It's DEMOCRATS leading the way on Stand Your Ground.

Vote out Democrats in 2014 or they will not only strip you of the ability to PROTECT yourself and your family without legal reprecussion.

It's the Democrats who hide the FACTS in this case on ply on the publics EMOTIONS.

FACTS should prevail not EMOTIONS.
Gravediggers

Boynton Beach, FL

#63 Jul 20, 2013
Responsibility wrote:
<quoted text>
Dearie, I believe you need to open your eyes, clean out your ears and listen carefully to what the President said.
The next generation and the younger generation are less discriminatory than ours - and yours - and as others have stated, there is hope that they can also listen to a speech and understand the words.
Responsibility = resides in CA!

Just look at the mob rule there.

Look at the chaos on the streets.

Read about the FAILED educational system.

Read about the debt!
Responsibility

Petaluma, CA

#64 Jul 20, 2013
JohnInLa wrote:
<quoted text>Mr. Zimmerman could hold the parents of the "child" responsible for assault and attempted murder by ways of their four inch height advantage "child"
Now you folks are quibbling about the murdered victim's height?

Perhaps more relevant to this issue maybe Zimmerman's past anger problems:

(1) In July 2005, Zimmerman was arrested for “resisting officer with violence.” The neighborhood watch volunteer who wanted to be a cop got into a scuffle with cops who were questioning a friend for alleged underage drinking. The charges were reduced and then waived after he entered an alcohol education program.

(2) In August 2005, Zimmerman’s former fiance sought a restraining order against him because of domestic violence. Zimmerman sought a restraining order against her in return. Both were granted.

Hey, la la, has La (Poster Boy of Paranoia) Pierre suggested that the new NRA/gun business propaganda should be that all seventeen year olds walking and talking on a street at seven in the evening should save themselves from the bad gun-a-toting' guy stalking them should pack a gun?
Responsibility

Petaluma, CA

#65 Jul 20, 2013
JohnInLa wrote:
<quoted text>Zimmerman being Hispanic and silly azzhats like you never noticed.
What does it matter, dear friend, if Zimmerman was half white/half Hispanic.

If you want to continue to make race your "excuse/propaganda/smear " which side of Zimmerman's heritage pulled the trigger? LOLL

Since: Mar 09

The Left Coast

#66 Jul 20, 2013
Responsibility wrote:
<quoted text>
What does it matter, dear friend, if Zimmerman was half white/half Hispanic.
If you want to continue to make race your "excuse/propaganda/smear " which side of Zimmerman's heritage pulled the trigger? LOLL
Good question. Which side of half white/half black Obama is leading the country?

“Proud To Be An American”

Since: Apr 07

Location hidden

#67 Jul 20, 2013
Responsibility wrote:
<quoted text>
Dearie, I believe you need to open your eyes, clean out your ears and listen carefully to what the President said.
The next generation and the younger generation are less discriminatory than ours - and yours - and as others have stated, there is hope that they can also listen to a speech and understand the words.
Attention inability!!! Discrimination is defined by a bunch of race baiters who would have said "absolutely nothing" had Zimmerman been a black faced neighborhood watchman. The fact is the media heard the name Zimmerman so they "assumed" white and without haste their racist drums started beating. After the incompetent media filth discovered Zimmerman was Hispanic they doubled down and stooped to all levels to turn the Hispanic Zimmerman into a white supremacist.
Seventeen months ago all of law enforcement called it right and did not charge the Hispanic Zimmerman. But then comes along a bunch of race baiting trash like you and they charge the Hispanic Zimmerman with Second Degree Murder...That's pure mike nifong filth over Duke LaCrosse.
And during the trial when the extremely deranged prosecution realized Second Degree Murder wasn't going anywhere they sought Manslaughter and when they saw that wasn't going anywhere they sought the charge of child abuse...despicable.
Not one word out of you and your demented ilk about what was a witch hunt and kangaroo court. Fortunately Six Real Principled Women Jurors saw through the filth and acquitted the Hispanic Zimmerman…Perhaps one day when you become a woman instead of a silly democRat azzhat you’ll understand their wisdom and the wisdom of the law.
bellowing niceties

Greeley, CO

#68 Jul 20, 2013
Buzzcut wrote:
A man who took a black girl to his prom, tutored black children, and acted as s civil rights activist when he saw what he thought was Sanford Police abuse of a black suspect is called a racist by the leftist press.
The idea that Zimmerman accosted Martin with a gun and then was physically dominated and battered for several minutes by the larger and tougher Martin who did not bother to go for the gun until the end is ludicrous.
It is pretty obvious that Zimmerman held back as long as he could from using his gun and only went to use it after it was finally discovered by Martin.
If this ever goes to civil trial I think Zimmerman will have a great case from the now public evidence to show that the depraved racial hatred (needed for 2nd degree murder charges) emanated not from Zimmerman but from Trevon Martin.
From the reaction by the NAACP and others it appears that the jury was women and mostly white as there were not available RACIALLY UNBIASED Black or Male jurors in the jury pool.
Maybe it would be better for blacks who believe that the USA is incorrigibly racist to petition that a couple states be set aside for them where they can live entirely separately from white folks. If the country is truly as they say, then we would be better to split it up. Think of how well blacks would live with no racist whites in their lives. Of course, one could move to Africa to live in an Afro Centric paradise as well.
Don't you get it? Zimmerman was supposed to go on step further for the black community and DIE! That's why the left is after "stand your ground". They want us to simply run away from thugs. If we don't, whatever happens is OUR fault.

The fact is that Zimmerman didn't "stand his ground". He was knocked to the ground and then straddled, so he could even retreat. This case has NOTHING to do with stand your ground. That's just the bastards on the left saying we must now submit to violence, robbery and theft to prove we are not "racist".

I would have preferred Zim to stay in his car. I would have rather had him armed with pepper spray or a taser. I think he's an idiot. But when it came to firing that shot, I truly think he thought it was his life or the thug's. Apparently, the jury agreed.

Our disgraceful racist President has once again stirred up mob hatred for Zimmerman. How shameful.

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