After Senate win, gay groups shift focus to Obama

Nov 8, 2013 Full story: SFGate 110

In this June 13, 2013, file photo, Vice President Joe Biden, left, pats President Barack Obama, right, on the chest while he speaks at a reception in the East Room of the White House in Washington to celebrate lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender pride month.

Full Story

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#82 Nov 13, 2013
nhjeff wrote:
<quoted text>
And the Republicans have been quite clear that they want to suppress the Democratic vote in order to further rig elections that they are increasingly unlikely to win through old fashioned (and honest) politicking.
Well yeah, they have to try to hold on until the 2020 census by keeping blacks, Hispanics, students, and women from voting. After that they're toast.

“Together for 24, legal for 5”

Since: Sep 07

Littleton, NH

#83 Nov 13, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
<quoted text>
Well yeah, they have to try to hold on until the 2020 census by keeping blacks, Hispanics, students, and women from voting. After that they're toast.
It's also interesting to note that, while Republicans hold the majority of governorships, they don't fare so well at the local level. In particular, nearly all big-city mayors are Democrat--even in red states.(And at least one mayor in a bright-red state is an open lesbian.)

This undoubtedly emphasizes the rural/urban divide in American politics. Urban areas always lead the trends. And the urban areas eventually prevail. This doesn't bode well for Republicans.

“ WOOF ! ”

Since: Nov 12

Coolidge, AZ

#84 Nov 13, 2013
nhjeff wrote:
<quoted text>
It's also interesting to note that, while Republicans hold the majority of governorships, they don't fare so well at the local level. In particular, nearly all big-city mayors are Democrat--even in red states.(And at least one mayor in a bright-red state is an open lesbian.)
This undoubtedly emphasizes the rural/urban divide in American politics. Urban areas always lead the trends. And the urban areas eventually prevail. This doesn't bode well for Republicans.
You say they don't do well at the local level which I think is untrue.

This is demonstrated by the fact that not only do the Republicans hold a majority of the gubernatorial seats, but the Republicans also hold the majority in the state legislatures, and also a large majority of the total number of state legislative seats.

“Equality First”

Since: Jan 09

St. Louis, MO

#85 Nov 13, 2013
Fa-Foxy wrote:
<quoted text>
You say they don't do well at the local level which I think is untrue.
This is demonstrated by the fact that not only do the Republicans hold a majority of the gubernatorial seats, but the Republicans also hold the majority in the state legislatures, and also a large majority of the total number of state legislative seats.
Re-read his post Fa-Foxy. He said "local". That means mostly cities. gubernatorial and state legislatures are not "local". They are state-wide.

“ WOOF ! ”

Since: Nov 12

Coolidge, AZ

#86 Nov 13, 2013
RalphB wrote:
<quoted text>
Re-read his post Fa-Foxy. He said "local". That means mostly cities. gubernatorial and state legislatures are not "local". They are state-wide.
No, They are NOT "state-wide". "State-wide" means, by definition, that every voter in the state can vote for a particular candidate, such as governor, attorney-general, secretary-of-state, etc.

State legislators are elected ONLY by the local people who live in their particular district. Someone living on Shelter Island, can't vote for an assemblyman or a senator whose district is on Staten Island.

Please consult a reputable dictionary and familiarize yourself thoroughly with the meaning of the word "local".

“Together for 24, legal for 5”

Since: Sep 07

Littleton, NH

#87 Nov 13, 2013
Fa-Foxy wrote:
<quoted text>
No, They are NOT "state-wide". "State-wide" means, by definition, that every voter in the state can vote for a particular candidate, such as governor, attorney-general, secretary-of-state, etc.
State legislators are elected ONLY by the local people who live in their particular district. Someone living on Shelter Island, can't vote for an assemblyman or a senator whose district is on Staten Island.
Please consult a reputable dictionary and familiarize yourself thoroughly with the meaning of the word "local".
The point that flew right over your head is that the urban centers are skewing more- heavily Democratic than ever. A big city mayor is far more likely to be the next governor than the mayor of Wassilla, even though that can happen.(Fortunately, that ended after only half of a term.).

Unless the Republicans turn things around in the urban centers, they are going to lose the governorships and the senatorial races.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#88 Nov 13, 2013
nhjeff wrote:
<quoted text>
It's also interesting to note that, while Republicans hold the majority of governorships, they don't fare so well at the local level. In particular, nearly all big-city mayors are Democrat--even in red states.(And at least one mayor in a bright-red state is an open lesbian.)
This undoubtedly emphasizes the rural/urban divide in American politics. Urban areas always lead the trends. And the urban areas eventually prevail. This doesn't bode well for Republicans.
Yep, that urban-rural split & gerrymandering explains how the GOPasaurs kept control of the House in '12 even though the Democratic candidates actually got more votes combined.

After 2020 even the typical gerrymandering won't help the Republicans. There simply won't be enough rural voters to save the GOP.

“ WOOF ! ”

Since: Nov 12

Coolidge, AZ

#89 Nov 13, 2013
nhjeff wrote:
<quoted text>
The point that flew right over your head is that the urban centers are skewing more- heavily Democratic than ever. A big city mayor is far more likely to be the next governor than the mayor of Wassilla, even though that can happen.(Fortunately, that ended after only half of a term.).
Unless the Republicans turn things around in the urban centers, they are going to lose the governorships and the senatorial races.
I disagree. "Urban centers" known as "cities" until you just changed the definition, have been losing population percentage-wise (and in some cases in absolute numbers) for many decades. It's the suburban areas, rural areas, and other ares that have been aging population at the expense of the cities.

Look at cities that have lost population since their peak: Chicago,-25%; Philadelphia,-26%; Detroit,-61%; Baltimore,-36%; Cleveland,-56%; and St. Louis,-62%; just to name a few......

“Together for 24, legal for 5”

Since: Sep 07

Littleton, NH

#90 Nov 13, 2013
Fa-Foxy wrote:
<quoted text>
I disagree. "Urban centers" known as "cities" until you just changed the definition, have been losing population percentage-wise (and in some cases in absolute numbers) for many decades. It's the suburban areas, rural areas, and other ares that have been aging population at the expense of the cities.
Look at cities that have lost population since their peak: Chicago,-25%; Philadelphia,-26%; Detroit,-61%; Baltimore,-36%; Cleveland,-56%; and St. Louis,-62%; just to name a few......
I am including the metropolitan areas in the trend toward Democratic policies. Truly rural areas have NOT been gaining population.

About 80% of the population growth in New Hampshire, for instance, occurs between Portsmouth, Nashua, and Manchester. That is, it's part of Greater Boston. There's an additional pocket of fast growth near Hanover (i.e., Dartmouth College). Although those towns are small by any standard, they provide a bulwark of Democratic support for the state. The conservative rural areas such as I live in are not gaining significant population.

Trends will be set by the population centers, not the vast rural areas. They always are.

“ WOOF ! ”

Since: Nov 12

Coolidge, AZ

#91 Nov 13, 2013
nhjeff wrote:
<quoted text>
I am including the metropolitan areas in the trend toward Democratic policies. Truly rural areas have NOT been gaining population.
About 80% of the population growth in New Hampshire, for instance, occurs between Portsmouth, Nashua, and Manchester. That is, it's part of Greater Boston. There's an additional pocket of fast growth near Hanover (i.e., Dartmouth College). Although those towns are small by any standard, they provide a bulwark of Democratic support for the state. The conservative rural areas such as I live in are not gaining significant population.
Trends will be set by the population centers, not the vast rural areas. They always are.
So those cities I mentioned are just a fluke, right ?

Go to the census site and read some of their reports. I stand by what i said.

And The Obamaniac LIED to the American people in order to sell his socialist OBAMACARE. Democrats are running away from it as fast as they can.

I already sent a long letter to my Democratic congresswoman telling her that she, and her party, have lost my vote forever, and I demand that she and her cohorts in congress IMPEACH THE OBAMANIAC for LYING to the American people about OBAMACARE.

Since: Dec 08

El Paso, TX

#92 Nov 13, 2013
Fa-Foxy wrote:
<quoted text>
So those cities I mentioned are just a fluke, right ?
Go to the census site and read some of their reports. I stand by what i said.
And The Obamaniac LIED to the American people in order to sell his socialist OBAMACARE. Democrats are running away from it as fast as they can.
I already sent a long letter to my Democratic congresswoman telling her that she, and her party, have lost my vote forever, and I demand that she and her cohorts in congress IMPEACH THE OBAMANIAC for LYING to the American people about OBAMACARE.
I'm certain she already has a Nutcase file folder for that.

“ WOOF ! ”

Since: Nov 12

Coolidge, AZ

#93 Nov 13, 2013
TomInElPaso wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm certain she already has a Nutcase file folder for that.
Did I say anything untrue ?

Dopey Roberts should've just ruled the whole thing unconstitutional and nobody, including The Obamaniac, would be in the OBAMACARE mess we're in now.

And no matter what happens, I, and millions of other God-fearing Americans, will simply refuse to take part in the Stalinist OBAMACARE. What are they going to do ? Throw millions of Americans in federal prison ?

“Together for 24, legal for 5”

Since: Sep 07

Littleton, NH

#94 Nov 13, 2013
Fa-Foxy wrote:
<quoted text>
So those cities I mentioned are just a fluke, right ?
They are about as much a fluke as Phoenix, Seattle, Houston, Atlanta, or Albuquerque.

BTW: Chicagoland is doing quite well.

“Happiness comes through giving”

Since: Feb 08

Location hidden

#95 Nov 13, 2013
Fa-Foxy wrote:
<quoted text>
ok. In 2008, the Stalinist Obamaniac was elected along with a democratic majority in the House, and a Democratic majority in the Senate. Why, after only 2 years, did the voters throw the Democrats out of power in the House, elected a Republican majority to the House instead, and keep doing that ever since ? Explain that.
It's called gerrymandering. Democrats actually won more House votes overall, but clever local Republican thievery made sure the democratic process would lose.
Unless things change toward fairness by the 2014 elections, Democrats who have been cheated out of fair representation, will need about 107 votes to Republican's 100.
The anger this Republican scam has perpetrated should bring out a heavy turnout for the Dems in areas where they have been disadvantaged. As a result, Democrats can take back the House, and government can finally get something good done for the American people.

“ WOOF ! ”

Since: Nov 12

Coolidge, AZ

#96 Nov 13, 2013
nhjeff wrote:
<quoted text>
They are about as much a fluke as Phoenix, Seattle, Houston, Atlanta, or Albuquerque.
BTW: Chicagoland is doing quite well.
"Chicagoland is doing quite well" ?! Chicago has LOST 25% of it's population since it's peak in 1950 (New York, New York's population grew in that same timer frame), Chicago's homice rate is 400% that of New York's homicide rate, and the crime rate is more than DOUBLE that of New York, and it's population is only about a third of New York's population.

And of course The Obamaniac, and Rahm Emanual never mention Chicago's horrendous crime rate at all.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_ci...

http://www.city-data.com/crime/crime-Chicago-...

http://www.city-data.com/crime/crime-New-York...

If Chicago is so wonderful and safe, then why don't you move there ?

As Mayor Bloomberg always says about Chicago: "It's a hell-hole !:)"

“Equality First”

Since: Jan 09

St. Louis, MO

#97 Nov 14, 2013
Fa-Foxy wrote:
<quoted text>
So those cities I mentioned are just a fluke, right ?
Go to the census site and read some of their reports. I stand by what i said.
And The Obamaniac LIED to the American people in order to sell his socialist OBAMACARE. Democrats are running away from it as fast as they can.
I already sent a long letter to my Democratic congresswoman telling her that she, and her party, have lost my vote forever, and I demand that she and her cohorts in congress IMPEACH THE OBAMANIAC for LYING to the American people about OBAMACARE.
How could the Democrats lose your vote, when you have already told us you don't vote for Democrats anyway? And I highly doubt you would ever in the future consider voting for a Democrat to begin with. Demand all you want. Who would listen to someone who has already told them they lost your vote?

Since: Dec 08

El Paso, TX

#98 Nov 14, 2013
Fa-Foxy wrote:
<quoted text>
Did I say anything untrue ?
Dopey Roberts should've just ruled the whole thing unconstitutional and nobody, including The Obamaniac, would be in the OBAMACARE mess we're in now.
And no matter what happens, I, and millions of other God-fearing Americans, will simply refuse to take part in the Stalinist OBAMACARE. What are they going to do ? Throw millions of Americans in federal prison ?
We know you're foolish but are you foolish enough to not have health insurance?

Probably.

“ WOOF ! ”

Since: Nov 12

Coolidge, AZ

#99 Nov 14, 2013
TomInElPaso wrote:
<quoted text>
We know you're foolish but are you foolish enough to not have health insurance?
Probably.
I believe in the power of CASH.(you slip the doctor 6 or 7 bucks under the table, and he'll fix ya right up.:))

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#100 Nov 14, 2013
Fa-Foxy wrote:
<quoted text>
I believe in the power of CASH.(you slip the doctor 6 or 7 bucks under the table, and he'll fix ya right up.:))
Not if he has any ethics.

Feel free to go to a quack; you'll get the care you deserve.

“ WOOF ! ”

Since: Nov 12

Coolidge, AZ

#101 Nov 14, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
<quoted text>
Not if he has any ethics.
Feel free to go to a quack; you'll get the care you deserve.
Last time I went to a hospital and a doctor was about 2 years ago when I accidentally broke my leg in New Mexico. Insurance paid for most of it and the few hundred I had to spend out of my own pocket wasn't that much.

Needless to say, I moved out of New Mexico in less than 2 weeks.

OBAMACARE is obviously going to crash and burn and be completely defunded and gutted. Juts like Bill Clinton said it should be.

The Obamanaic SHOULD BE IMPEACHED for his constant LIES to the American people, and to congress to get this monstrosity passed.

Tell me when this thread is updated:

Subscribe Now Add to my Tracker

Add your comments below

Characters left: 4000

Please note by submitting this form you acknowledge that you have read the Terms of Service and the comment you are posting is in compliance with such terms. Be polite. Inappropriate posts may be removed by the moderator. Send us your feedback.

US Politics Discussions

Title Updated Last By Comments
The President has failed us (Jun '12) 8 min Agents of Corruption 313,644
Who Would Jesus Deport? (Jul '14) 14 min kuda 19
Barack Obama, our next President (Nov '08) 35 min Valerie 1,193,086
Evolution vs. Creation (Jul '11) 1 hr Igor Trip 149,950
Atheists Aren't the Problem, Christian Intolera... 1 hr Thinking 4,907
Scott Walker has no college degree. That's norm... 1 hr serfs up 1,959
BARACK OBAMA BIRTH CERTIFICATE: Suit contesting... (Jan '09) 1 hr wojar 185,148
'Fox News Sunday' to Host Kentucky Senate Debate (Oct '10) 4 hr Sunshine 172,536
More from around the web