Yes! We Should Defund The U.N.'s Intergovernmental Panel On Climate Change

Feb 24, 2013 Full story: Forbes.com 30

Rajendra K. Pachauri, the chair of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change .

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SpaceBlues

Pasadena, TX

#1 Feb 24, 2013
Our future is melting before our very eyes.

Fiddling With The Data While The World Burns

.. if global warming isn’t real and there’s an actual scientific debate about it, that should be reflected in the scientific journals.

Scientists do not disagree about human-caused global warming. It is the ruling paradigm of climate science, in the same way that plate tectonics is the ruling paradigm of geology. We know that continents move. We know that the earth is warming and that human emissions of greenhouse gases are the primary cause.

Only one conclusion is possible: within science, global warming denial has virtually no influence. Its influence is instead on a misguided media, politicians all-too-willing to deny science for their own gain, and a gullible public.

There is no scientific controversy over this. Climate change denial is purely, 100 per cent made-up political and corporate-sponsored crap.

When the loudest voices are fossil-fuel funded think tanks, when they don’t publish in journals but instead write error-laden op-eds in partisan venues, when they have to manipulate the data to support their point, then what they’re doing isn’t science. It’s nonsense. And worse, it’s dangerous nonsense. Because they’re fiddling with the data while the world burns.
Fun Facts

Las Cruces, NM

#2 Feb 24, 2013
$16.5 trillion dollars in debt, annual deficits over a trillion dollars each year, 22 million Americans out of work... sequestration looming...

YES we should stop funding the IPCC. We don't need to give them more money for stories lifted from magazine articles and put into policy recomendations for law makers.
PHD

Overton, TX

#3 Feb 24, 2013
Representative Luetkemeyer’s defunding proposal cites unsupportable IPCC claims based upon irresponsible science practices which were revealed in e-mail exchanges between climate researchers in the U.K.’s East Anglia University network.

"WOW' someone in the GOP understands the scientific science fiction HOAX!!

Since: Apr 08

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#4 Feb 24, 2013
We should defund the UN, period.

Move it to Somalia.
SpaceBlues

Pasadena, TX

#5 Feb 24, 2013
LOL. Deniers have nothing to say but repeat the old lies.

Prove a hoax. Otherwise, we know you are repeating lies.
PHD

Overton, TX

#6 Feb 24, 2013
They all should be defunded.
SpaceBlues

Pasadena, TX

#7 Feb 24, 2013
See how the deniers are afraid of the next report. We all are because:

"Some locations along the west coast of Greenland have warmed really strongly by about 2–4°C in summer and as much as 10°C locally in winter – in their average surface air temperatures since 1991," Edward Hanna of the University of Sheffield, UK, told environmentalresearchweb. "In general, warming has been much stronger in west Greenland than in the east. Similar warming trends are seen on the western flank of the ice sheet – at 1200 metres above sea level – as on the west coast, which indicates a significant impact of this strong warming on enhancing ice-sheet melt and mass loss."

Since: Apr 08

Location hidden

#8 Feb 24, 2013
SpaceBlues wrote:
See how the deniers are afraid of the next report. We all are because:
"Some locations along the west coast of Greenland have warmed really strongly by about 2–4°C in summer and as much as 10°C locally in winter – in their average surface air temperatures since 1991," Edward Hanna of the University of Sheffield, UK, told environmentalresearchweb. "In general, warming has been much stronger in west Greenland than in the east. Similar warming trends are seen on the western flank of the ice sheet – at 1200 metres above sea level – as on the west coast, which indicates a significant impact of this strong warming on enhancing ice-sheet melt and mass loss."
You sound like this is all our fault.

How do you explain all the incidents of global warming before Man appeared? Were they the apes' fault?
SpaceBlues

Pasadena, TX

#9 Feb 24, 2013
Bama Yankee wrote:
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You sound like this is all our fault.
..
Oh you are correct about human-caused global warming.

Your location is hidden but the top two guilty during the last 250 years are:

1. USA.

2. UK.
SpaceBlues

Pasadena, TX

#10 Feb 24, 2013
Bama Yankee wrote:
<quoted text>..

How do you explain all the incidents of global warming before Man appeared? Were they the apes' fault?
.. past climate change doesn't tell us that humans can't influence climate; on the contrary, it tells us that climate is highly sensitive to the greenhouse warming we're now causing.

http://www.skepticalscience.com/climate-chang...

As carbon dioxide emissions increase, the temperature should continue to rise. I expect the rate of warming to proceed at a steady pace, about one and a half degrees over land in the next 50 years, less if the oceans are included. But if China continues its rapid economic growth (it has averaged 10 percent per year over the last 20 years) and its vast use of coal (it typically adds one new gigawatt per month), then that same warming could take place in less than 20 years.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/30/opinion/the...

Since: Mar 11

Minnesota's North Coast

#11 Feb 24, 2013
Australians actually have the largest carbon footprint..but you know what they say about guys with large carbon footprints...
PHD

Overton, TX

#12 Feb 24, 2013
Yes the poster above you needs its diaper changed again.
litesong

Lynnwood, WA

#13 Feb 24, 2013
phud fetid feces face fiend wrote:
Yes the poster above you needs its diaper changed again.
"phud fetid feces face fiend" needs its fetid feces face changed....... but(butt?) it likes it that way, because it is a fiend.
litesong

Lynnwood, WA

#14 Feb 24, 2013
bam bam yanked wrote:
How do you explain all the incidents of global warming before Man appeared?
The carbon that is 8000 feet down in an oil well, used to be the floral arrangements in the Flintstone's house & the fauna running in the back yard.

Since: Apr 08

Location hidden

#15 Feb 24, 2013
littledong wrote:
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The carbon that is 8000 feet down in an oil well, used to be the floral arrangements in the Flintstone's house & the fauna running in the back yard.
Since you want to play juvenile games, I'll indulge you, just this once.

Since: Aug 08

Lynnwood, WA

#16 Feb 24, 2013
litesong wrote:
The carbon that is 8000 feet down in an oil well, used to be the floral arrangements in the Flintstone's house & the fauna running in the back yard.
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'bam bam yanked' wrote:
Since you want to play juvenile games, I'll indulge you, just this once.
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litesong wrote:
You indulge worse than you understand.
The carbon that was on the surface, waters & airs of the Earth's hot biosphere millions & hundreds of millions of years ago, is in oil wells, coal seams, & gas deposits today........ except for the massive carbons(3+ thousand thousand thousand thousand thousand KGs) released already & 10+ thousand thousand thousand thousand thousand KGs released sometime beyond the years 2100+.

Yeah, I yanked the chain of 'bam bam yanked'........ but it was so easy.

Since: Apr 08

Location hidden

#17 Feb 24, 2013
litesong wrote:
litesong wrote:
The carbon that is 8000 feet down in an oil well, used to be the floral arrangements in the Flintstone's house & the fauna running in the back yard.
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'bam bam yanked' wrote:
Since you want to play juvenile games, I'll indulge you, just this once.
//////////
litesong wrote:
You indulge worse than you understand.
The carbon that was on the surface, waters & airs of the Earth's hot biosphere millions & hundreds of millions of years ago, is in oil wells, coal seams, & gas deposits today........ except for the massive carbons(3+ thousand thousand thousand thousand thousand KGs) released already & 10+ thousand thousand thousand thousand thousand KGs released sometime beyond the years 2100+.
Yeah, I yanked the chain of 'bam bam yanked'........ but it was so easy.
It went right over your head.
LessHypeMoreFact

Toronto, Canada

#18 Feb 24, 2013
Bama Yankee wrote:
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You sound like this is all our fault.
1: strawman.

2: blame game. We didn't know so no responsibility can be assigned. However, we do have to take action on CURRENT knowledge.
Bama Yankee wrote:
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How do you explain all the incidents of global warming before Man appeared? Were they the apes' fault?
By natural processes. However, the issue is not global warming but Anthropogenic Global Warming. What is the difference? Natural processes can change the global temperature, but it generally does it over millenia to era time scales. AGW is more proximate, caused by man's emissions and happens in a MUCH shorter time scale.

The real issue is the speed of change. Some trees are shown to be moving with climate change but at about one third of the necessary speed to maintain their climate zone. Climate changes from natural factors have been slow enough for the plants to adapt.

And the speed of change makes for much more 'disruption' ocmpared to a longer term change.

But even your point that climate does change naturally is just more spin and spam, ignoring the issue by trying to blur the facts.
PHD

Overton, TX

#19 Feb 25, 2013
The above #14 poster is overdue its diaper change. It must have another BS rash.

“Stop the Brain Rot”

Since: Jan 12

Take a Looonng Vacation

#20 Feb 25, 2013
If you're opposed to science, want civilization irrevocably damaged, and support the fossil fuel people, then yes, the above is true.

If not....then it is the OPPOSITE of the truth.

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